Bays Area Skate - all submissions - total 534
Bays Area Skate - all submissions - total 534
1 Bays Area Skate – all submissions – total 534 26 Nayland Street First choice – 314 (59%) Second choice – 113 (21%) Third choice – 54 (10%) Fourth choice – 31 (6% Not indicated – 22 (4%) Total 534 Sumner Beach First choice – 109 (21%) Second choice – 264 (49%) Third choice – 68 (13%) Fourth choice – 54 (10%) Not indicated – 39 (7%) Total 534 Old Redcliffs School First choice – 78 (15%) Second choice – 63 (12%) Third choice – 247 (46%) Fourth choice – 83 (15%) Not indicated – 63 (12%) Total 534 Scott Park First choice – 28 (5%) Second choice – 46 (9%) Third choice – 91 (17%) Fourth choice – 305 (57%) Not indicated – 64 (12%) Total 534 No.
Sub ID # 26 Nayland Street Old Redcliffs School Scott Park Sumner Beach Please state your reasons for this ranking Project Team Response 1. 12538 3 4 1 2 Scott Park is more accessible for skaters from Woolston Heathcote Ferrymead - already bumper to bumper traffic along Main Road in Sumner - land probably not good for much else Redcliffs School used to be school & park for hockey etc. Good idea to keep school & park. Probably not enough land for much sport practice and weekend games at new school site good to keep old school site for running races soccer field and other sports. Otherwise school won't have fields.
Likely too noisy for Nayland Street Thanks for your feedback. The school site has space for a junior and intermediate sports field (same as Redcliffs Park) as well as other recreational activities such as skate. Please refer to Summary of Key Noise Issues completed by Marshall Day. The overall assessment for potential noise effects for Nayland Street is very good, with recommended barriers. 2. 12518 4 2 3 1 4. Noise too close to Library and houses in Nayland St - No toilets 2. 2nd choice - would have to be central on this site to get noise away from houses. 3. 3rd choice - Site ok - but too far from Sumner 1.
Best location - Toilets already there - close to Sumner Village but far enough away to reduce the noise problem Thanks for your feedback. Please refer to Summary of Key Noise Issues completed by Marshall Day. The overall assessment for potential noise effects for Nayland Street is very good, with recommended barriers. This has considered the residual environment including the commercial zoned properties (library) and mentions that traffic noise is likely to mitigate effects. There are toilets located at the library during opening hours, or at the nearby surf club outside these hours.
2 Old Redcliffs School Site – If this was the preferred location the skate park would be centrally located. 3. 12517 4 2 3 1 1. Sumner Beach has toilet. It is away from the road. Plenty of trees to muffle the noise 2. Large area. Central for both Redcliffs and Sumner youth 3. Large area - away from houses 4. Poor choice, to close to the library, no toilets. Close to house Thanks for your feedback. Nayland Street - There are toilets located at the library during opening hours, or at the nearby surf club outside these hours.
4. 12516 1 4 3 2 Because the Sumner community has shown its support for the ramp to a far greater extent than the other suburbs (over 25 years).
Sand make the beach site inappropriate, Nayland St only place that works Thanks for your feedback. 5. 12515 1 4 3 2 The Sumner people have given greater support for a skate ramp than the other 2 suburbs Thanks for your feedback 6. 12503 1 Please select 3 2 I’d like to vote in the following order: 1. 26 Nayland Street 2. Sumner Beach 3. Scott Park I love the 26 Nayland Street location as it’s so nice to have this kind of activity within the community. I also feel it is a much safer environment for children if there are adults in the vicinity rather than it being hidden away in a park.
Thanks for your feedback. 7. 12483 Please select Please select Please select 1 Allows the skate park to combine with lifesaving facilities like Aussie in the future. Maybe a cafe etc. Allows more adults near the kids. Stops the grunge factor & drugs going with skateboarding Thanks for your feedback 8. 12482 Please select 1 2 Please select Central to most people Thanks for your feedback. 9. 12481 3 4 2 1 This position is beside the Surf Club which is well utilised, a distance from residential areas, will have a security camera in place, parking nearby and on the bus route so older children can utilise this means of transport.
This siting may be useful in terms of fund raising for both recreations. The Nayland Street site is smaller & closer to residences and businesses. The Redcliffs School site is close to residences and because of its size will likely become a central meeting focus for teenagers who are not necessarily interested in skate boarding.
The Scott park choice would be my next preference as not close to residences, horse riding and Ferrymead Historic Village are nearby but is not easily accessible. Thanks for your feedback. Comments noted around separation from neighbours as being important. The community workshops have also provided this feedback, therefore the weighting of information around noise is higher (more important). 10. 12479 2 1 4 3 Central location for Bays area at Redcliffs Safe road crossing at Redcliffs Out of the wind and sand at Redcliffs Close to shops Thanks for your feedback. Comment noted about the old Redcliffs school site being a central location for the Bays Area and being sheltered.
3 Large skate park would be great at Redcliffs Scott Park & Sumner Beach not suitable due to wind & sand Dangerous road crossing at Scott Park Scott Park has high use from other sports already 11. 12478 2 4 3 1 Dear Tara, I write to express my opinion regarding the positioning of the proposed Skate Park in this area. My name is and reside in Redcliffs: And my Ph. Contact is: I understand the Council are now looking at 4 possible sites and have local residents to feedback to you preferences and reasons for these preferences. My Preferences are:- 1. Sumner 2. Nayland Street 3. Scott Park in Ferrymead.
4. Old Redcliffs School. Reasons: Sumner is the logical choice - this is where most youth like to congregate and where initial efforts to establish a park began. Also skate boarders and surfers have many similarities in common - many surfed are keen skateboarders Close proximity and interaction would be logical and helpful in multiple ways.
Geographically Sumner Beach is perfect, there is plenty of open space in an area where noise is less disruptive (competes with the ocean) yet highly public, & visual - obviously beneficial for accountability and for those not at all interested in skate boarding, there is a wide open beach. Sumner is the most logical preference. Scott Park would be my third choice but foot path access and car parking could become future problems. I am strongly against using the Old Redcliffs School site because: there is very little opportunity for public surveillance, there is limited footpath to access the site onto very busy Main Road.
Then there is Raekura, The Red Cliffs Red zoned and unstable but why expose youngsters to the challenge of climbing 'thrills' already there are a few young ones having a go. It would be disaster to have youth hanging about.
The surrounding area has a large percentage of elderly pensioners who could feel very insecure with 'loitering youth ' and loud skateboard noises. There is virtually no public surveillance which is asking for trouble. The cliffs also provide a major source of echoing noise throughout the quiet suburb of Redcliffs day and night- night and day. The peace and quiet, the beauty and ability to hear soft sounds of the sea is why many of us invested in life here, please do not take this pleasure away from us now Thank you for reading this.
Your positive consideration is very much appreciated Tara, Thanks for your feedback.
If the old Redcliffs School was the preferred option, Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design (CPTED) and how users get to and from the site would be part of the design brief for this site. The old Redcliffs School site is going through a formal process to become a Council operated and managed park. The junior and intermediate sports field that was located at Redcliffs Park will be relocated to this site. Residents will have an opportunity to comment around what they would like to see in this park, when a landscape plan is developed for community consultation.
Previous community workshops have provided Council with feedback that separation from neighbours is important. Therefore the weighting of information around noise is higher (more important). Please refer to Summary of Key Noise Issues completed by Marshall Day. The overall assessment for potential noise effects for the Old Redcliffs School site is very good, with recommended barriers. If a site is approved by the Community Board, further noise assessments/modelling will be completed during the design phase to ensure the skate park complies with the District Plan noise standards.
12476 1 2 4 3 I would like a park in Sumner as there are so many beginners here. It would be real practical - easy access. It's close to the village so you can just go off and do other stuff as well. Close to everyone / my mates. It's near car parks so parents can wait for their children. Please can you make this happen as we've asking for so many years? I think it would be great to put it in Sumner because otherwise you would have to drive and most beginners cannot drive because they are under age. There are no bathrooms at Scott park or the school site and there are at the surf club and library.
It is safe at the surf club because there is no rock fall and there are nowhere to park for all the older kids. Nayland Street is very practical with it being in the village. Why would we put it out of Sumner if it’s the Sumner Skate park? Thanks for your feedback. Comments noted around beginners not being able to drive to sites outside of Sumner. There will be a bathroom at the Old Redcliffs School site (in an existing building). 13. 12475 1 Please select Please select 2 The relief sought is as follows: 1. That 26 Nayland Street, Sumner, is the primary location for a skate facility. 2. That as a second option, Sumner Beach (301 Main Road) by the surf life-saving club is identified for a skate facility.
The reasons for the submission are as follows: · The location in Sumner is ideal due to the established surf/skate culture and the level of local support · Both locations provide for passive surveillance from non-residential activities · At present, the locations provide for school children from 4 schools to skate to the location · The sites are best located to provide for economic benefits associated with surf/skate retail, and food and beverage sales · Both sites provide for the continuing recovery of Sumner from the impacts of the earthquakes Sumner Green and Skate (‘SG&S’) is an unincorporated group with a strong local following (1055 members on Facebook).
It has a number of active members who regularly meet who are interested in the betterment of Sumner’s amenities and provide a significant amount of resources and time into make Sumner a great place to live, work, and play. As far as SG&S is aware, Sumner is the only community group in the eastern bays that is advocating to have a community skate facility in its area.
SG&S have been working with the CCC to establish a skate park in Sumner/Bays area. The group was recently successful in attaining resource consent for the construction of a temporary skate facility in the centre of Sumner Village. Sumner is a young, vibrant family-based community with a keen relationship to the outdoors and surf/skate culture. It is the only area within the eastern bays with surf/skate retailers. Two retailers, Stoked and Urban Surf, are located in the township within walking distance of the two identified sites in our submission. In addition, there are a number of food and beverage outlets including a dairy, supermarket, two bakeries, two ice-cream shops, a sushi shop, two fish and chips shops, and a number of cafes.
SG&S agree all four sites selected by Opus have merit, but feel only the two Sumner sites would serve eastern bays youth skaters well. These sites would both suit a small to medium sized skate park, perfect for this community and reflect what users have told us they want. Our local skaters Thanks for your feedback. Comments noted around the two sites in Sumner. 20/24 Nayland Street is still owned by the Crown. Ownership of 20/24 needs to be transferred to Council for 26 Nayland Street to go ahead for a skate park.
5 have told us they want a park they can skate to before and after school.
Something for them in their own community. SG&S continue to support the proposed skate park at 26 Nayland St as it neighbours the site for the proposed Sumner village green at 20 and 24 Nayland St (providing potential for a significant buffer from the nearest residential houses). This combined area fulfils the aims of the group to bring life, vitality and recreation back to the centre of the village, allowing different age groups to interact in one area. This area will recreate an outdoor village centre, missing since Matuku Takotako: Sumner Centre was built on the site of the temporary village green in 2017.
The popularity of the temporary ramp in Sumner is outstanding. SG&S notes that investment now will have many positive effect for our children in the years to come. Specific benefits for the Nayland Street site The following sets out benefits associated with the Nayland Street site: · central to a bus stop, retail, public toilets · environmental benefits – minimisation of vehicle-based transport · sheltered, no wind-blown sand, trees for shade, attractive backdrop · links well to village green and the Sumner Centre · great visibility and passive surveillance opportunities · distance from residential neighbours exceeds the required 40 metres · acoustics for this site are excellent, with minimal impact for local residents and businesses Geo-technical matters A geotech report for this site commissioned by SG&S in May 2017 found that the land at can be made safe for the uses of a skate facility and village green.
SG&S are happy to make that available to the Council.
In addition, it is noted that the data supporting the modelling and delineation of earthquake risk areas in the district plan use predicted seismic modelling for 2012 and 2016, and do not necessarily represent current actual risk. In addition, the lines which are developed in relation to assumed residential occupancy will not correlate with the usage (and therefore risk) associated with skaters on the site. 14. 12473 1 2 4 3 The CCPG committee have discussed the options for the Skate Park in the Bays area, and the consensus is indicated above.
We note that this project is principally a Sumner project and therefore support it being located in Sumner, which we recognise is closest to the biggest population centre and therefore more teenagers and other users.
We do not feel that we can comment as a committee on sites other than those adjacent to the Coastal Pathway, other than the preference indicated above. The Sumner Beach site is attractive in that it is close to where teenagers want to hang out. However we are concerned that it might impact on the users of the Coastal Pathway, as a 4 metre wide shared pathway is about to begin construction through this area. This is likely to be a very popular and busy section of the pathway, and so skate park users might interfere with pathway users especially on busy days. Remember pathway users will be using various equipment such as bicycles, electric bikes, skateboards, in-line skates, wheelchairs, mobility frames, buggies, and prams etc.
Thanks for your feedback. Sumner Surf Club - The location of the coastal pathway has been considered with relation to the possible location of the skate park near the surf club. There would be suitable separation between both activities to avoid conflict and the pathway would provide opportunity for local residents to use active transport to access the space. Comments around values of greenspace noted. If this site was to be selected, storm water requirements would be included in the design including access for diggers etc.
Scott Park - If Scott Park was to be selected, the skate design would complement existing use and ensure as much greenspace is retained.
Comments around traffic noted. The skate park will be designed into the existing environment to complement the existing space, this include suitable landscaping.
6 The Sumner Beach site is identified as an important grassed area, that is appreciated by locals and visitors as one of the only grassed areas immediately adjacent to the beach. It is relatively sheltered and used frequently for picnics and those wishing to avoid the busyness of the adjacent beach. As a committee we worked very hard to keep this area available for local use, due to feedback from the locals and the adjacent Surf Club. Also this area is a storm drain, which means that access is required by diggers etc. in storm events to ensure that the drainage is not impeded. This would not be an ideal place to build a skate park as this may impede this access.
Scott Park is a well-used busy amenity currently. The Mt Pleasant Yacht Club are the main users of this area, and the indicated piece of grass is not as the masterplan for this park indicates long- term. This is to be used for overflow parking when there is a yachting regatta and other events (for example coastal pathway/water sports/scouts events). There is little grassed area there currently and we are very keen for what grassed areas there are left to be retained. This is a very busy traffic area, and gets a lot of bike traffic particularly in the evening, and bike and walking traffic in the evening.
This could present a safety hazard.
Also this is the 'gateway' to the Bays area and a skate park is not desirable at such a highly visible area. We are not sure if a non-water sport use of this coastal area is appropriate use when the city has such limited waterside areas for water sports users. 15. 12472 1 3 4 2 Continue to support the proposed skate park at 26 Nayland St as it neighbours the site for the proposed Sumner village green at 20 and 24 Nayland St. This combined area fulfils the aims of the group to bring life, vitality and recreation back to the centre of the village, allowing different age groups to interact in one area.
This area will recreate an outdoor village centre, missing since Matuku Takotako: Sumner Centre was built on the site of the temporary village green in 2017. The benefits of a skate park at 26 Nayland St: central to a bus stop, retail, public toilets environmental benefits; sheltered, no wind-blown sand, trees for shade, attractive backdrop links well to village green and the Sumner Centre great visibility distance from neighbours exceeds the required 40 metres acoustics for this site are excellent, with minimal impact for local residents and businesses Thanks for your feedback 20/24 Nayland Street is still owned by the Crown.
Ownership of 20/24 needs to be transferred to Council for 26 Nayland Street to go ahead for a skate park. If and when this happens the Community will be asked what they would like to see on 20/24 Nayland with a village green being an option.
Other comments noted. 16. 12471 1 3 4 2 The relief sought is as follows: 1. That 26 Nayland Street, Sumner, is the primary location for a skate facility. 2. That as a second option, Sumner Beach (301 Main Road) by the surf life-saving club is identified for a skate facility. The reasons for the submission are as follows: ï‚· The location in Sumner is ideal due to the established surf/skate culture and the level of local support ï‚· Both locations provide for passive surveillance from non-residential activities ï‚· At present, the locations provide for school children from 4 schools to skate to the location ï‚· The sites are best located to provide for economic benefits associated with surf/skate retail, and food and beverage sales Thanks for your feedback All your comments around the benefits of 26 Nayland Street have been noted.
20/24 Nayland Street is still owned by the Crown. Ownership of 20/24 needs to be transferred to Council for 26 Nayland Street to go ahead for a skate park. If and when this happens the Community will be asked what they would like to see on 20/24 Nayland with a village green being an option.