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Martelli McKegg welcomes
Jacqueline Lethbridge to the partnership.

The partners of Martelli McKegg are very pleased to announce
that Jacque Lethbridge joined the partnership on 1 June 2019.
Jacque is an experienced commercial and civil litigator specialising
in insolvency and restructuring matters. Jacque has a reputation for
taking on complex and challenging disputes and is often called upon
by high-profile individuals and commercial entities with complex cases
that require robust and innovative representation at the highest levels
of the Courts. As well as running cases as Senior Counsel, Jacque
regularly works with senior Barristers and Queen’s Counsel.

Jacque joins the firm having been a partner or director of leading
Auckland litigation firms for nearly a decade.

Jacque can be contacted on +64 9 300 7628
or email jacque@martellimckegg.co.nz

Phone: +64 9 379 7333 Fax: +64 9 309 4112 Web: martellimckegg.co.nz
Address: Level 20, PwC Tower, 188 Quay Street, Auckland
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                                                                      New Zealand Law Society                              29 · Reforms take family justice
                                                                6 · From the Law Society                                        backwards, Law Foundation
                                                                7 · New Zealand Law Society                                     research finds ▹ BY LYNDA HAGEN

                                                                      People in the Law                                            Alternative Dispute
                                                              10 · On the move                                                     Resolution
                                                              16 · Lagi Tuimavave,                                         31 · Cognitive biases: challenging
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                                                  46               Wellington Family Law                                        the way we think ▹ BY PAUL SILLS
                                                                   ▹ BY ANGHARAD O'FLYNN                                   34 · When is arbitration the best
                                                              19 · Warrick McLean, CEO, Coleman                                 way of resolving a dispute?
                                                                   Greig Lawyers ▹ BY ANDREW KING                               ▹ BY ROBERT FISHER QC
                                                              20 · NZAL Lawyers successfully                               35 · New Zealand lawyer behind
                                                                   launched ▹ BY MAI CHEN                                       new Singapore mediation
                                                                                                                                chambers ▹ BY NICK BUTCHER
                                                                      Update
                                                              24 · Imprisonment imposed                                            Practising Well
                                                                   for violent attack on dog                               37 · Are you being defined by
                                                                   ▹ BY ANITA KILLEEN                                           your job? ▹ BY RAEWYN NG
                                                              26 · Directors’ duties and the                               39 · Mental health in the workplace
                                                                   case for vulnerable trading?                                 ▹ BY HUGH NORRISS
                                                                   ▹ BY RICHARD GORDON
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        Practice                                              66 · The hawks helping lawyers                                              Classifieds
42 · The new union for legal                                       automate legal documents                                      84 · Will notices
     workers ▹ BY CRAIG STEPHEN                                    ▹ BY TRACEY CORMACK                                           86 · Legal Jobs
46 · Catherine O’Connell - Setting                            68 · Is software eating the                                        88 · CPD Calendar
     up sole practice in Japan                                     law? ▹ BY JAMIE DOBSON
     ▹ BY TRACEY CORMACK                                      72 · Using brain fingerprinting in                                 	Lifestyle
50 · Oh the places you’ll go                                       court ▹ BY EMMA PAIRMAN                                       90 · A New Zealand Legal
     ▹ BY MARK WILTON                                         74 · 5G: Big deal or not really?                                        Crossword ▹ SET BY MĀYĀ
52 · Climate crisis: the cold hard                                 ▹ BY DAMIAN FUNNELL                                           91 · The Devil’s Own – far
     facts about all that “hot                                76 · How lawyers can successfully                                       more than a fusty male
     air”▹ BY JENNY COOPER QC                                      embrace social media                                               preserve ▹ BY ALICE NUNN
57 · Sustainable Practice                                          ▹ BY ANDREW KING
                                                                                                                                 94 ·     Tail end
        Technology                                            78 ·    Lawyers Complaints
60 · Legal tech in New Zealand                                        Service
     ▹ BY GEOFF ADLAM
64 · LegalTechNZ aims to promote                                      Access To Justice
     benefits of technology                                   81 · Access to Justice: An insurance-
     ▹ BY NICK BUTCHER                                             based proposal ▹ BY JOSS OPIE
65 · Nuix releases a SaaS eDiscovery
     solution to support the ‘New
     Law’ frontier ▹ BY CRAIG STEPHEN

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N E W Z E A L A N D L AW S O C I E T Y                                             J uly 2 0 1 9 · L AW TA L K 9 3 0

        NEW ZEALAND LAW SOCIETY

From the Law Society
                                                                            anticipated work arising from that
We all agree that justice                                                   jurisdictional expansion.
delayed is justice denied.                                                     The District Court is entering
   The right of all New Zealanders to                                       a stage of renewal over the next
access a timely resolution of matters                                       three years: 46 existing judges will
before our courts is fundamental to                                         be retiring by 2022. As the people’s
the effective and functional oper-                                          court, this renewal provides a
ation of the justice system. Delay                                          unique opportunity for the court to
is not conducive to the wellbeing                                           address gender and ethnic diversity
of court users. Timely resolution is                                        to reflect all in our society.
required for everyone in the court                                             At the beginning of the year
system whether they are facing                                              the Chief District Court Judge and
criminal charges, are the victims                                           Principal Family Court Judge invited
of crime, witnesses, or are seeking                                         practitioners around the country to
a civil remedy or resolution of a                                           seminars facilitated by NZLS CLE
family matter. Time spent in the                                            Ltd. These seminars provided a
system should be reduced to the                                             window into becoming a District
minimum as appropriate to properly                                          Court and/or Family Court Judge.
determine a matter.                                                         These seminars not only gave those
   Last month saw the country’s first                                       who attended an insight into the
ever wellbeing Budget.                                                      challenges and rewards for such
   As part of that Budget the Gov-                                          contribution to the justice system
ernment announced a decision to                                             but also encouraged experienced
fund an additional 10 District Court                                        members of the profession to con-
judges and two further Youth Court                                          sider expressing their interest to
judges this year through an increase                                        serve on the bench.
to the statutory cap, raising judge                                            And help too is also on the way
numbers from 160 to 182. The decision to increase the                       for coronial cases. In the week
cap to 182 provides for a further 10 unfunded positions                     before the Budget, the Government
to enable further judges to be funded in future budgets                     announced eight relief coroners will
without the need for legislative change.                                    be appointed to address the backlog
   These decisions have been welcomed by the pro-                           of cases and delays in this jurisdic-
fession, the judiciary and members of the public as a                       tion, with funding to come from
significant step to address the well-publicised workload                    existing Ministry of Justice baselines.
pressures and delays in the District Court.                                 The number of deaths reported to the
   Currently there is a backlog of cases and the long      The decision     coroners is increasing year on year
delay times for cases to be heard is considerable. The     to increase      and the additional appointments will
District Court deals with over 200,000 cases each year.    the cap to       provide more support and resources
There are more complex and serious offences coming         182 provides     to reduce the waiting times for fam-
before criminal courts which require more time and         for a further    ilies in the coronial system at such a
resources. There is an increasing rise in the number       10 unfunded      stressful time.
of both defended Care of Children Act applications         positions to        The Law Society welcomes these
and without-notice applications, causing additional        enable further   judicial resourcing decisions and is
pressures in the Family Court. And then there is still a   judges to be     encouraged these steps have been
backload of adjourned cases from the industrial disputes   funded in        taken to address the delay of justice
in the court in 2018.                                      future Budgets   in the District Court. ▪
   Legislative changes in July this year will see the      without the
expansion of the Youth Court jurisdiction to include       need for         Mark Wilton is the Convenor of
17-year-olds, with the aim of reducing re-offending. The   legislative      the New Zealand Law Society’s
additional two Youth Court judges will assist with the     change           Courthouse Committee.

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                       Racing Reform Bill penalties
                       raise serious concerns
                                                                 is irregular and should be strongly          of the penalty should be made by
                       Penalty provisions in the Racing          discouraged. The regulator, enforcer,        a court, and not the enforcement
                       Reform Bill ignore strong objections      and adjudicator should be distinct           agency.
                       from the Ministry of Justice and          from one another,” Mr McHerron                  The Law Society recommended
                       appear to lack justification, the New     said.                                        that the committee seek an expla-
                       Zealand Law Society says.                    “The Law Society shares the min-          nation from officials on why the
                          The Law Society presented a sub-       istry’s concerns. There has been no          pecuniary penalty provisions have
                       mission on the bill to the Transport      response to the ministry’s objec-            been included against the ministry’s
                       and Infrastructure select committee       tions and it is highly unsatisfactory        concerns.
                       on 5 June. The bill received its third    that there has been no attempt at               The Law Society also said it was
                       reading on 20 June. The penalty           justification.                               hard to see justification for the fast-
                       provision clauses were unchanged.            “The ministry notes that regimes          track nature of the bill. Only four
                          Law Society spokesperson Jason         where the regulator determines pen-          working days had been allowed for
                       McHerron said the bill contains           alties can also create a perception          interested parties to comment.
                       provisions for collection of off-         that the regulator uses penalties to            “Unrealistic deadlines imposed on
                       shore betting charges. These allow        gather revenue. The bill does make           the select committee process seri-
                       the Department of Internal Affairs        some provision for court review of           ously hinder the public’s input into
                       to impose pecuniary penalties on          the decision. However, it is also not        legislation and the proper scrutiny
                       offshore betting operators in certain     clear how the review process will            of bills,” Mr McHerron said.
                       circumstances.                            operate in practice.”                           “The Law Society appreciates the
                          “The Ministry of Justice has              Mr McHerron said the Legislation          need for a swift legislative response
                       recorded strong objections to these       Design and Advisory Committee’s              in relation to some bills, but in the
                       penalty provisions. It says that          Legislation Guidelines state clearly         present case it is not clear what the
                       allowing determinations of liability      that decisions about liability for           justification is for the very truncated
                       to be made by non-judicial bodies         pecuniary penalties and the amount           consultation period.” ▪

                       Charities Act review has limitations
                                                                 largely considers the Charities Act          the review,” it says.
                       A narrow terms of reference               in isolation, rather than as part of            “The Law Society has recently
                       means the Department of Internal          the wider scheme of New Zealand              written to the Law Commission, rec-
                       Affairs’ review of the Charities Act      charity law. Ideally, that would be          ommending that the Commission’s
                       2005 does not cover or adequately         the subject of a comprehensive and           future work programme should
                       take into account a number of mat-        cohesive review.                             include a wider, first principles
                       ters, the Law Society has said.              The Law Society says it believes          review of the Charities Act and the
                          In a submission on the review          the Law Commission would be best             Charitable Trusts Act.”
                       discussion document Modernising           placed to conduct such a review.                In spite of a short extension of
                       the Charities Act 2005, the Law Society      “It is not clear that it is appropriate   the timeframe for submissions, the
                       says these include the “charitable        for the Department of Internal Affairs       Law Society says the three to four-
                       purposes” definition, interplay with      to lead a review of the Charities Act        month period for submissions is
                       tax concessions linked to registration,   regime that is principally admin-            still relatively short and will most
                       interplay with other aspects of charity   istered by Charities Services, and           likely have been very challenging
                       law, and interplay with other regimes.    given that Charities Services’ role          for many sector participants and
                          The submission says the review         as regulator is an important part of         stakeholders. ▪

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He Waka Roimata                                                                                   Jo Hambleton
                                                                                                  elected
report an important                                                                               Otago branch
step, says Law Society                                                                            President
                                         able to get better outcomes.”                            Dunedin lawyer Jo Hambleton
The report, He Waka Roimata,                Ms Epati says the legal profession                    has been elected President of the
from Te Uepū Hāpai i te Ora – the        is a key participant in the criminal                     Otago branch of the New Zealand
Safe and Effective Justice Advisory      justice system and has a long history                    Law Society. Mrs Hambleton is an
Group is an important first step for-    of advocacy for reform.                                  associate with Dunedin firm O’Neill
ward in the assessment of how our           “There have been many changes                         Devereux. After graduating LLB at
criminal justice system is viewed        made to criminal justice legisla-                        Otago University she was admitted
and impacts on communities, the          tion over the years. Right back                          as a barrister and solicitor in May
New Zealand Law Society says.            to attempts in the early 1990s to                        1999. She completed a Graduate
  “This report contains some very        replace the Crimes Act 1961, the                         Diploma in Child Advocacy in 2007
stark messages and conclusions.          Law Society has called for whole-                        and specialises in family law.
Group Chair Chester Borrows says         sale reform rather than the piece-
the overwhelming impression from         meal, knee-jerk reaction approach                        The following Council was elected
people who have experienced the          which has occurred. The report has                       at the branch AGM on 12 June:
criminal justice system is one of        provided us with a broad-ranging
grief. That is a call to action, and     set of principles which come from                        President: Jo Hambleton.
the need for involvement by all          many parts of our communities.                           Vice-President: Taryn Gudmanz.
stakeholders,” Law Society President     A principled approach must be                            Immediate Past President: John
Tiana Epati says.                        the driving force for change,” Ms                        Farrow.
  “There is also a strong message of     Epati says.                                              Central Otago Representative:
hope for change. Mr Borrows says the        “It is also important to ensure                       Dale Lloyd.
group believes solutions already exist   that the reforms are accompanied                         North Otago Representative:
and there is a national will to build    by recognition of the need to ensure                     Louise Laming.
a criminal justice system to meet        New Zealand has a human rights-                          New Practitioners Representative:
the needs of our country in 2019         based criminal trial process. The                        Derek McLachlan.
and beyond. The next report from         rights of all defendants to a fair trial                 OWLS Representative: Karen
the group will give its response and     must remain a foundation stone of                        Billinghurst.
that will be an important moment.        criminal justice.                                        Law Faculty Representative: Ben
  “This report highlights the need          “The New Zealand Law Society                          France-Hudson.
for access to justice to be a funda-     fully supports the work Te Uepū                          Council Members: Will Martin,
mental priority. We look forward         Hāpai i te Ora – the Safe and Effec-                     Lisa Brown, Sharon Knowles, Craig
to the group’s suggestions on how        tive Justice Advisory Group is doing                     Power, Lucia Vincent.
everyone who becomes involved in         and we look forward to continuing
the criminal justice process will be     involvement in the reform process.” ▪

Shirley Smith Address on 29 August
The Law Society’s Wellington branch Women in Law Committee is holding the 11th annual Shirley Smith Address in
Wellington on 29 August. The 2019 address will be presented by Professor Vanessa Munro, Professor of Law at the University of Warwick,
England. The title is "Judging Juries: The 'common sense' comundrums of prosecuting violence against women". ▪

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Overseas Investment                                                               David Campbell
                                                                                  re-elected
Act not operating                                                                 Auckland
effectively                                                                       branch
                                                                                  President
The Overseas Investment Act 2005 does not appear to be operating
efficiently or effectively, and its perceived complexity may be discouraging
overseas investment, the Law Society has said in comments on the discussion       A u c k l a n d l aw y e r D av i d
paper Reform of the Overseas Investment Act 2005, April 2019.                     Campbell has been re-elected
   It says its experience reflects the discussion paper concerns about the        President of the New Zealand Law
inordinate delay in processing applications and the high cost involved in         Society’s Auckland branch. Mr
making an application. There are also difficulties with using the conterfactual   Campbell is a partner at Kensington
test to determine if a proposed investment is likely to benefit New Zealand,      Swan, where he specialises in com-
following the High Court decision in Tiroa E and Te Hape B Trusts v Chief         mercial and civil disputes, with
Executive of Land Information New Zealand [2012] NZHC 147. ▪                      a special focus on competition
                                                                                  law, product liability and liability
                                                                                  insurance. He was re-elected
                                                                                  unopposed. There were three branch
Measured approach best for                                                        council vacancies. Sue Styants was
                                                                                  re-elected unopposed and she is
financial institution legislation                                                 joined by Misha Henaghan and
                                                                                  Sarah Jerebine who were elected
                                                                                  unopposed as new members. ▪
The preferred package of options in the options paper Conduct of
Financial Institutions, April 2019 appears sound, but a measured approach
needs to be taken to regulating organisations that provide financial services
to New Zealand consumers, the Law Society says.
   In comments on the options paper, the Law Society says lack of focus on          New Zealand Law
the consumer has long been an anomaly in financial services regulation.             Society submissions
It supports a principles-based approach to regulation and notes that the            Copies of all submissions
options set out are being pursued to a tight timetable “with the ambitious          made by the Law Society
aim of legislation being introduced to Parliament before the end of 2019”.          can be found on our website
   “The Law Society understands that regulators, banks and insurers are             at www.lawsociety.org.nz/
currently engaged in an ongoing review of Conduct and Culture. A measured           news-and-communications/
approach needs to be taken to developing this regime, to allow sufficient           law-reform-submissions.
consideration and input from regulators and market participants.” ▪

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        PEOPLE IN THE LAW
        ON THE MOVE

Gabrielle Wagner                                 domestic and inter-                               promoted to the partnership in 2017. She
appointed to District                            national corporate                                specialises exclusively in insurance and
Court bench                                      transactions, with par-                           commercial litigation.
                                                 ticular expertise in
Auckland barrister                               private equity and ven-                           Tanya Kennedy joins
Gabrielle Wagner                                 ture capital. He also has                         Lambton Chambers
has been appointed                               extensive international
a District Court Judge                           experience in commer-                             Tanya Kennedy has
with Family Court                                cial matters, with deep sectoral focus in         joined Wellington’s
jurisdiction. She will                           technology, intangible assets and blockchain.     Lambton Chambers as a
be based in Manukau.                                Megan Pearce has                               barrister sole. Admitted
Admitted as a barrister                          joined the firm as a                              in June 1996, Tanya has
and solicitor in June 1988, Ms Wagner            senior associate. She has                         extensive experience in
started her career with Cairns Slane before      experience in advising                            employment law. She
moving to Morrison Morpeth in 1990. She          on corporate and com-                             advises and represents
worked at McCabe McMahon from 1993               mercial matters, and has                          clients in the full range of employment
to 1999, becoming a partner in 1996. Ms          specialist expertise in                           law issues and institutions, including
Wagner has been a barrister sole since 1999,     commercial contracting                            mediation, litigation, and conducting or
practising in all areas of family law. She has   with an ICT focus, fund raising for early stage   representing clients in relation to employ-
conducted several Family Court Appeals in        companies as well as advising on technology       ment investigation processes.
the HIgh Court and has also held a number        and telecommunication transactions.
of positions on the New Zealand Law                                                                Tanya Wood appointed
Society and ADLS Inc. Judge Wagner will          Shaun Cousins joins                               Special Counsel by
be sworn in on 12 July 2019 in Auckland.         Rainey Collins                                    Duncan Cotterill
Swearing-in of David                             Shaun Cousins has                                 Duncan Cotterill has
Goddard QC on 26 July                            joined the Dispute                                appointed Tanya Wood
                                                 Resolution and                                    as special counsel.
An error in the June issue of LawTalk meant      Litigation team at                                Tanya specialises in
a wrong date was given for the swearing-in       Rainey Collins as an                              construction litigation
of David Goddard QC as a Justice of the          associate specialising in                         and insurance law, with
High Court and Court of Appeal. He will          family law. His particu-                          particular emphasis
be sworn in on 26 July and not 19 July as        lar areas of expertise                            in the resolution of
stated. We apologise for any confusion.          are contracting out, care of children and         complex building disputes. She has over
                                                 relationship property agreements. Shaun           17 years’ experience assisting a range of
Acting District Court                            graduated from the University of Waikato          owners, developers, contractors and con-
Judge appointed                                  in 2011 and has practised over the last eight     sultants in project and contract disputes.
                                                 years in the Waikato.
Janette Helen Walker, retired District                                                             Joe Donald joins Braun
Court Judge, has been appointed to be            Katie Shanks joins                                Bond and Lomas
an Acting District Court Judge for a term        Wotton + Kearney
commencing on 3 August 2019 and expiring         Auckland office                                   Joe Donald has joined Hamilton litigation
on 27 August 2020.                                                                                 and dispute resolution firm Braun Bond
                                                 Wotton + Kearney part-                            and Lomas as a senior solicitor. Joe was
Anderson Lloyd makes                             ner Katie Shanks has                              admitted as a barrister and solicitor in
two appointments                                 returned to Auckland                              July 2013. He has experience in civil liti-
                                                 after spending six years                          gation, family and employment law and
Anderson Lloyd has announced two                 in Sydney and will run                            has also dealt with a range of immigration
appointments in its corporate and com-           the first trans-Tasman                            and criminal matters. Joe has appeared
mercial team.                                    insurance practice.                               as an advocate in various levels of New
   Derek Roth-Biester has been appointed         Katie began her career                            Zealand’s courts and tribunals and is
a corporate and commercial partner. Derek        in Auckland before joining Wotton +               familiar with all forms of alternative
has significant experience advising on           Kearney in Sydney in 2013 and being               dispute resolution.

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Jennifer Yang joins                             range of transactions,                        also represents clients in connection with
Buddle Findlay as                               including private merg-                       regulatory investigations and proceedings
Senior Associate                                ers and acquisitions,                         by the Commerce Commission, Securities
                                                takeovers, joint ven-                         Commission, Financial Markets Authority
Jennifer Yang has                               tures, reorganisations                        and Serious Fraud Office.
joined Buddle Findlay’s                         and capital raisings, on                         Jacob Kerkin in
Auckland office as a                            Overseas Investment                           the Auckland litiga-
senior associate in the                         Act matters.                                  tion team has been
corporate and com-                                 To m C l e a r y i n                       promoted to senior
mercial team. Jennifer                          the Auckland litiga-                          associate. Jacob is an
advises on commercial                           tion team has been                            experienced com-
contracts, with a focus                         promoted to senior                            mercial litigator with
on strategic procurement and technology         associate. Tom is an                          expertise in a broad
based business process outsourcing mat-         experienced commer-                           range of disputes, including those relat-
ters. Before joining Buddle Findlay, Jennifer   cial litigator who is                         ing to property and construction, class
worked as senior legal advisor to global        skilled in advising and                       actions, banking and finance, contract
professional services and management            representing clients in complex disputes.     and tort.
consultancy firms in London.                    He has particular expertise in intellectual      Amelia Markram in
                                                property, media, trusts, contract and con-    the Auckland property
Chapman Tripp                                   sumer protection law.                         team has been pro-
promotes nine lawyers                              Robert Grignon in                          moted to senior legal
                                                the Auckland tax team                         advisor. Amelia special-
Chapman Tripp has announced the pro-            has been promoted to                          ises in construction and
motion of seven new senior associates and       senior legal advisor.                         major projects, advising
the recognition of two senior legal advisors,   Robert is a tax specialist                    clients on the front and
from 1 June.                                    advising on all aspects                       back ends. She has extensive experience
   Joseph Lill in the                           of New Zealand tax                            in large scale construction contracts and
Christchurch litiga-                            law, with a particular                        consultancy arrangements on a wide range
tion team has been                              focus on M&A transactions, cross-border       of projects.
promoted to senior                              investment, property transactions and            Kylie Mutch in the
associate. Joseph spe-                          post-settlement iwi corporate structuring.    Auckland property
cialises in health and                             Sam Holden in the                          team has been pro-
safety as well as gen-                          Auckland litigation                           moted to senior asso-
eral civil litigation and                       tream has been pro-                           ciate. Kylie works with
insurance law. He regularly advises clients     moted to senior asso-                         developer and contrac-
during investigations and has appeared in       ciate. Sam specialises                        tor clients on domestic
District Court and High Court proceedings.      in commercial litigation                      and international con-
   Philip Ascroft in the                        with a particular focus                       struction projects across a wide variety of
Auckland corporate                              on banking and finance,                       sectors, including residential, commercial,
team has been pro-                              insolvency and construction disputes. He      mining, energy and infrastructure.
moted to senior associ-
ate. Philip specialises in
corporate and securities
law. He has a particular
focus on equity capital
markets and mergers and acquisitions, and
regularly provides listed company com-
pliance and corporate governance advice.
   Luke Bowers in the Auckland corporate
team has been promoted to senior associ-
ate. Luke’s expertise lies in corporate and
securities law, focusing on mergers and
acquisitions. He advises clients on a broad

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Alden Ho joins                                   Development at Columbia University.            Kelly Johnson
Norling Law                                        Pele Walker, the Commission’s chief          becomes Greenwood
                                                 mediator, has served as Acting Chief           Roche principal
Alden Ho has joined                              Executive since former Chief Executive
Auckland firm Norling                            Cynthia Brophy left in December 2018.          G r e e nwo o d R o c h e
Law as an associate.                                                                            has appointed Kelly
Alden was admitted as                            Jordan Curtis                                  Johnson as a principal,
a barrister and solicitor                        promoted to Junior                             from 1 June. Kelly was
of the High Court of                             Barrister Associate                            admitted as a barrister
New Zealand in 2011                                                                             and solicitor in August
and of the Supreme                               Jordan Curtis has been                         2007. She specialises in
Court of Victoria in 2016. He is an experi-      promoted to Junior                             commercial property
enced commercial advocate with a focus on        Barrister Associate at                         with particular experience in commercial
insolvency, debt recovery and construction       Auckland’s Old South                           leasing, acquisition and disposals and
ligitation. Before joining Norling Law Alden     British Chambers.                              developments. Kelly has acted on a number
worked at Martelli McKegg in Auckland            H e j o i n s t h e Ta x                       of high profile and strategic projects for
and Mills Oakley in Melbourne.                   C o n t r o ve r s y t e a m                   corporate and government clients.
                                                 wo rk i n g fo r G e o ff
Appointments to Pitcairn                         Clews. Jordan joined the Chambers in           Harkness Henry
Islands Court of Appeal                          July 2018. He is a graduate from the           announces appointments
                                                 University of Auckland with BSc and
Two Auckland-based barristers have been          LLB degrees and he also has completed          Waikato law firm Harkness Henry has
appointed to the Court of Appeal of Pitcairn     a Masters in Taxation Studies with first       announced three appointments.
Islands. Former High Court Judge Paul            class honours.                                     Laura Fischer joins
Heath QC and Miriam Dean QC have been                                                           the Litigation Team
appointed Justices of Appeal. This follows       Georgetti Scholarship                          as a solicitor. Laura
the retirement from the Pitcairn Court of        for Harriet Farquhar                           was admitted in March
Appeal of Sir Bruce Robertson and Rodney                                                        2014 after graduating
Hansen QC. The Assistant Attorney-General        Crown Law Office                               from the University of
of Pitcairn Islands, Danielle Kelly, says this   lawyer H a r r i e t                           Waikato. Before joining
continues a long tradition of members of         Farquhar has been                              Harkness Henry she
the New Zealand bench and bar serving            awarded a William                              practised family law in Rotorua and general
in the Pitcairn Islands legal system. She        Georgetti Scholarship.                         litigation in Te Awamutu. Laura has particu-
says at the swearing-in ceremony in May,         Ms Farquhar is an                              lar expertise in relationship property matters,
the Pitcairn community welcomed the              Assistant Crown Counsel                        both contentious and non-contentious.
new judges and expressed its gratitude           in the Constitutional                              Jessica Mathieson has been appointed a
for the quality of legal services that has       and Human Rights team. She studied law         solicitor in the Resource
been provided from New Zealand.                  at Victoria University of Wellington and       Management and
                                                 was admitted as a barrister and solicitor      Employment Team.
New Chief Executive                              in December 2016. She is also Associate        Jessica was admitted in
for Human Rights                                 Editor of the New Zealand Women’s Law          March 2019 after com-
Commission                                       Journal – Te Aho Kawe Kaupapa Ture a ngā       pleting a law degree
                                                 Wāhine.                                        with first class honours
The Human Rights Commission board                  Ms Farquhar has received funding             from the University of
has appointed Rebecca Elvy as its new            towards a Master of Laws at New York           Waikato.
Chief Executive. Ms Elvy, who will take up       University, focusing on human rights,              Katelyn Silvester
her role in August 2019, is currently Chief      constitutional and international law. There    is employed as a law
Executive of Ngā Taonga Sound and Vision         were three other scholarship recipients, in    clerk in the private
(New Zealand’s audio-visual archive).            other fields than law. The scholarships were   client team. Katelyn
She has postgraduate qualifications in           established by the late William Georgetti,     has law and social sci-
Business Administration and Strategic            a Hawke’s Bay farmer, who wanted to            ence degrees from the
Studies (Massey University and Victoria          create opportunities for the “best brains”     University of Waikato
University) and has studied Organisational       to benefit from his bequest.                   and is completing her professionals.

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DMK Law Ltd formed                               Since her retirement from full-time                     Connell. Before this she clerked for Justice
                                               duties, Judge Henwood as served as an                     Glazebrook in the Supreme Court.
S t a cey D a i l y and                        Acting District Court Judge. Outside the                     Harriet Farquhar
Amanda Munting-                                courtroom, she helped implement Te                        will study for her
Kilworth have formed                           Hurihanga, a youth justice programme,                     LLM at NYU, focusing
DMK Law Ltd, a                                 and served as chair of the Confidential                   on human rights,
specialist family and                          Listening and Assistance Service, which                   constitutional and
employment law firm                            supported people who suffered abuse or                    international law, in
based in Nelson. Stacey                        neglect while in the care of the state before             particular on issues
commenced her career                           1992. She also established, and currently                 of climate change-re-
in Invercargill before                         chairs, the Henwood Trust, which provides                 lated displacement and migration in the
returning to Nelson                            independent policy advice on working with                 Pacific region. Harriet is an Assistant
in 2011. Amanda                                young offenders. The Trust has worked                     Crown Counsel in the Constitutional and
h a s p ra c t i s e d l aw                    extensively with iwi on a number of key                   Human Rights Team at Crown Law. She is
in Christchurch and                            initiatives.                                              a graduate of the Law Faculty at Victoria
London and has been                                                                                      University of Wellington and clerked for
practising law in Nelson                       Three young lawyers                                       Justice Arnold in the Supreme Court.
since 2011. Stacey and                         receive Ethel Benjamin                                       Rosalind Kós will
Amanda have extensive family law and           Scholarships                                              undertake study for her
employment law experience.                                                                               LLM at the University
                                               Three lawyers have been awarded 2019 New                  of Chicago exploring
Madeleine Cochrane                             Zealand Law Foundation Ethel Benjamin                     a comparative and
Wright joins Berry Simons                      Scholarships. The award was established                   pragmatic approach
                                               in 1997 and honours New Zealand’s first                   to the prosecution of
Madeleine Cochrane                             woman barrister and solicitor, Ethel                      family violence cases.
Wright has joined spe-                         Benjamin, who was admitted in 1897. Its                   Rosalind aims to identify possible reforms
cialist environmental                          value is up to $50,000 annually.                          to New Zealand’s criminal procedure in
law firm Berry Simons                             Nicola Hodge will                                      family violence cases. Rosalind is currently
as a senior associate.                         study for her LLM at                                      a Senior Solicitor at Crown Solicitors Luke
She joins the firm from                        Cambridge University                                      Cunningham Clere, Wellington. She is a
the Department of                              focusing on issues of                                     graduate of the University of Canterbury
Conservation where                             constitutional and                                        Law School and former clerk to Justice
she was legal lead in the pre-consulta-        human rights law,                                         French at the Court of Appeal.
tion stage of developing the National          particularly litigation
Policy Statement. Before that she spent        aspects, in order to                                      Blair Shepherd gains
almost four years as senior solicitor at the   broaden her understanding of contem-                      scholarship to Duke
Environmental Defence Society. Madeleine       porary issues of social justice. Nichola is               Law School
has been involved in plan change or            a graduate of the University of Canterbury
resource consent processes throughout          Law School and is working as a solicitor                  Tauranga lawyer Blair Shepherd has
New Zealand, from hearings before              at the Wellington branch of Meredith                      accepted a scholarship to study for a Master
councils and the Environment Court, to
the Court of Appeal.

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of Laws in International                         he imbued in me was the client comes first,      and helped iwi obtain some control of the
Legal Studies at Duke                            that you have to do the best for the client,     Whanganui River.
L aw S c h o o l , D u ke                        and that it doesn’t matter who they are. It        “Michael is right up there in terms of his
University in the United                         has stuck with me and I still try and live       massive contribution to the community
States. Blair was admit-                         up to that.”                                     and has really set the bar very high for the
ted in November 2017                                Arthur still works full time and has no       younger partners of Cooney Lees Morgan
and works at Holland                             firm plans to retire. He says jokingly, “I am    to step up to.”
Beckett Law in the                               in the second half of my career.                   Owen says a love of the law, strong work
litigation and disputes resolution team.            “I keep working partly for the intellectual   ethic and a commitment to helping others
His primary academic focuses at Duke             stimulation, partly the sense of wanting         seem to be traits that run in the Cooney
will be international arbitration, interna-      to do the best thing for the clients, but a      family. “The old Irish blood is in there, that
tional trade and climate change. The LLM         major thing is the people I work with. We        determination and pioneering spirit. But
programme ends in May 2020 and Blair             have a wonderful team.”                          Michael has certainly taken that to the
intends to sit the New York Bar Exam in             Chief Executive Partner Nick Wells adds,      next level.”
July 2020.                                       “His intellectual rigour, unfailing enthu-         After graduating from Auckland
                                                 siasm, wide experience and dedication            University and being admitted to the Bar
Arthur Young celebrates                          to service has helped shaped Chapman             in January 1966, Michael moved home to
60 years as Chapman                              Tripp into the firm it is today. His private     Tauranga to join the family firm in 1970
Tripp partner                                    clients trust and rely on his judgement,         alongside his father, uncle and brother.
                                                 gentlemanly approach and personal touch.”        He became a partner two years later.
Chapman Tripp lawyer Arthur Young is                                                              Property and contract law became his
celebrating 60 years                             Michael Cooney                                   areas of expertise. Current CLM partner
as partner of the                                retires after nearly                             Sally Powdrell says Michael is known as
firm. Chapman Tripp                              50 years at CLM                                  an astute and tough negotiator who fights
says he is the longest                                                                            hard to advance his clients’ best interests.
serving partner who                              Michael Cooney retired on 1 June after             “He has been a real devotee of the law,”
is still working in the                          a career of nearly 50                            Sally says. “He has always been respected
New Zealand legal                                years at Tauranga                                by the legal community both locally and
profession.                                      law firm Cooney Lees                             nationally as a lawyer of high standing."
   Mr Young continues to practise as head        Morgan. During his
of the firm’s Private Client team. Aged 84,      time in practice he has                          Lexvoco joins LOD
he was admitted to the Bar on 22 March           served as Tauranga’s
1957. On 1 April 1959, he became a junior        Co ro n e r, ove r s e e n                       Australian and New Zealand “new law”
partner at Sheffield and Young, one of the       the establishment of                             firm lexvoco has joined LOD (Lawyers
founding firms of Chapman Tripp.                 Aquinas College, and chaired Tauranga            on Demand) from 1 May. The firm is now
   “It is incredible to reflect on the past      Energy Consumer Trust (TECT).                    known as LOD, but says it is business as
60 years and how the legal landscape has           “Whatever Michael decides to turn his          usual. LOD has 10 offices globally, 650
changed. Early on, it was the days of stamp      mind to, he gives it 100%, excelling at          lawyers and consultants and over 500
duty and death duty, and trying to trim          whatever it is, whether it be work, com-         corporate and law firm clients.
those down, going to the Land Transfer           munity or family matters,” says his cousin
Office in person to have the memorials           and Cooney Lees Morgan partner Owen
written up in the great heavy ledgers,           Cooney.                                            Contributing information
turning up to have the registrations, and          In recognition of Michael’s service to the       to On the Move
you had to get there at 8am to be ahead          community, he was made a Member of the             Brief summaries of information about
of the queue,” he says.                          New Zealand Order of Merit in 2013 and             promotions, changes in law firms,
   “Lots of law has changed enormously,          was awarded a Paul Harris Fellowship by            recruitment and retirement are pub-
but actually much is the same. Our work          Rotary International.                              lished without charge in On the Move
involves dealing with people, and human            “The partners of Cooney Lees Morgan              (which is also available online on the
nature, if it changes at all, is only gradual    have always made strong contributions              Law Society website). Please send
in its change.”                                  to our community,” Owen says. “Michael’s           information as an email or MS Word
   A former President of the Auckland            grandfather, HO Cooney, had a hand in              document (no PDFs please) to editor@
University Students Association in 1958-59,      establishing the Port of Tauranga, and             lawsociety.org.nz. Submissions should
he received the University’s Distinguished       Lionel Lees was involved in the power              be three or four sentences without
Alumni Award in 2002. Arthur is a long           generation scheme which was the forerun-           superlatives and may be edited to
standing member of the Society of Trust          ner of Trustpower. Our firm’s other name           conform to the format used. A jpeg
and Estate Practitioners.                        partner, Ed Morgan, earned an MBE for              photo may be included, but please
   Arthur worked with his first principal,       championing Māori interests. He helped set         ensure you have permission for us to
Joe Sheffield, for 25 years, and he had a        up the Tauranga Moana Māori Trust Board,           use it.
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                  Opportunity to get
                  involved in law reform
                  Calling all practitioners keen to make a contribution to law reform in New
                  Zealand, now is your time to get involved.
                  The New Zealand Law Society plays an active and important role in the reform of law in New Zealand.
                  The Law Society has a reputation for producing high quality, impartial and considered submissions
                  on a wide range of legal issues, on behalf of the legal profession and in the public interest. This is
                  possible thanks to the dedication and hard work of members of the profession who volunteer their
                  time and expertise to serve on the Law Society’s law reform committees.

                  The Law Society is now calling for applications from members and associate members interested in
                  serving on the Law Society’s Law Reform Committee or one of the specialist committees listed below:

                    Accident Compensation Committee                    Civil Litigation and Tribunals Committee
                    Commercial and Business Law Committee              Criminal Law Committee
                    Criminal Law Committee                             Employment Law Committee
                    Environmental Law Committee                        Health Law Committee
                    Human Rights and Privacy Committee                 Immigration and Refugee Law Committee
                    Legal Services Committee                           Public and Administrative Law Committee
                    Rule of Law Committee                              Tax Law Committee
                    Youth Justice Committee

                  If you are:
                  • enthusiastic about, and have skills and expertise in a relevant area of law,
                  • keen to share your knowledge and to work collaboratively with other practitioners,
                  • willing to volunteer your time and expertise for the benefit of the profession and the community, and
                  • available to respond to consultation on law reform when required
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                  also available via email from lee.adamson@lawsociety.org.nz.

                  Applications close at 5pm Friday 26 July 2019.

                  Committee convenors will be appointed by the Law Society Board at its meeting on 23 August 2019
                  and committee members will be appointed by the President in late August.

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        PEOPLE IN THE LAW
        PROFILE

Lagi Tuimavave,
Wellington Family Law
New in the Law
BY ANGHARAD
   O’FLYNN

Born in Samoa, Lagi Tuimavave is the oldest of                                     What do you enjoy most
five children and spent her formative high school years                            about being a lawyer?
growing up in Wellington, attending Wellington Girls’                              “I enjoy working in a firm with very
College.                                                                           experienced partners who have
   Bilingual in English and Samoan, Ms Tuimavave says                              been so hands-on with my devel-
that while she was an English studies buff, her favourite                          opment. I think it is so important
subject was legal studies, as the subject supported the                            for new lawyers to be surrounded
needs of students who spoke English as their second                                by willing and experienced teachers.
language. She is a solicitor with Wellington Family Law.                           This is an experience I can never
                                                                                   take for granted.
When did you realise that you                                                         “I am so reluctant to say that I
wanted to be a lawyer?                                                             enjoy being a lawyer for the mere
“My father helped me to decide and I eventually learnt                             fact that I get to file evidence for my
the value of having a law degree.                                                  clients, attend court and bill them.
   “Since college, I realised that I had no other options                          No, for me, joy in being a lawyer
but to become a lawyer, hence my perseverance with                                 comes from the mere fact that a
English.                                                                           client thanks me for helping them
   “Once at law school I knew I had made the right                                 alleviate stress and pain. It’s in the
decision, despite the many challenges I had to endure.                             way I give them legal advice and
I feel so honoured to have a practising certificate because                        practical advice. It’s about being
I feel a deep sense of responsibility for the elderly, young                       upfront and not sugar coating the
people, Pacific islanders and any vulnerable member                                legal system. I guess you can say
or members of our community.”                                  As a lawyer,        that I enjoy being a lawyer because
                                                               understanding       I care about people.”
You have a BA majoring in Samoan                               differences
studies and cultural anthropology.                             is crucial. I       What made you lean
Do these help you in your day-                                 can never           toward specialising
to-day work as a lawyer?                                       assume I know       in family law?
“I’m lucky I got to major in these papers.                     someone’s           “Family law presents to me an
   “Cultural anthropology gave me perspective about            culture simply      opportunity to help people with
different cultures and their rituals and the varied ways       from listening      their issues. Family law has the
people live and organise themselves. I love that we are        to their stories.   human element; it is the core of
all so different and that we can all learn a thing or two      Being a lawyer      the area of law. I like that there
from each other.                                               comes with          are steps people could be advised
   “As a lawyer, understanding differences is crucial. I       a great deal        to take before engaging the legal
can never assume I know someone’s culture simply               of trust but        system unless they are urgent
from listening to their stories. Being a lawyer comes          also the need       matters.
with a great deal of trust but also the need to respect        to respect            “[I think] Family law should
my clients’ vulnerabilities in a system that should only       my clients’         be less adversarial and more
be turned on as an absolute last resort.”                      vulnerabilities     conciliatory.”

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                                                                                     I’m going to be silent on the issue.
                                                                                        “The profession needs to be free from entitled people
                                                                                     who think it is ok to bully or sexually violate their staff.
                                                                                     Such behaviour needs to be eliminated. Let’s respect
                                                                                     each other and appreciate that upholding each other’s
                                                                                     unique mana is conducive to better outcomes for all.
                                                                                        “There is a great and urgent need for diversity in the
                                                                                     legal profession. We need more Māori and Pasifika law-
                                                                                     yers in litigation teams in all firms, let’s be a reflection
                                                                                     of our country.
                                                                                        “I think there is a growing shortage of legal aid
                                                                                     lawyers. This saddens me because access to justice
                                                                                     is being denied. I’m really hoping this decline is only
                                                                                     temporary.
                                                                                        “I feel honoured to be at Wellington Family Law where
                                                                                     I feel supported and I can only hope the same for my
                                                                                     junior colleagues.”

                                                                                     Can you tell me about anyone
                                                                                     who inspires you?
                                                                                     “In general, my mother Piilua inspires me. She is the
                                                                                     most hard-working woman that I know. I feel beyond
                                                                                     blessed that she is my mother. In the legal profession,
                                                                                     Tiana Epati inspires me. I met her early this year and I
                                                                                     am so proud of her. I thank her for her bravery and for
                                                                                     sharing some of the most painful moments of her career
                                                                                     as a Pasifika woman in the legal profession.”

                                                                                     Family law can be very stressful,
                                                                                     what do you get up to your
                                                                                     spare time to decompress?
                                                                                     “I am a proud believer of God – so going to church gives
                                                                                     me a great sense of peace and relief.
After finishing study, did               hope that they are all well supported          “I spend most of my spare time with my nine-year-old
you find the job matched                 and looked after by members of              brother TJ. He is the greatest company ever. A nine-
the expectations you                     their practice.                             year-old best friend will make you forget all about your
had in school?                              “Sexual harassment and bullying          work/life worries.
“To be honest, I wasn’t quite pre-       is real in the legal fraternity – to me        “I have a solid group of close friends and mentors
pared for the level of responsibility    it is a long term disease that needs        who I can always count on for a good time – quality at
that comes with being a family           serious treatment. Just because I           this age and time is important.” ▪
lawyer. Going home and wondering         personally haven’t experienced it
whether a client will be okay over       in my current firm doesn’t mean             Angharad O’Flynn is a Wellington-based journalist.
the weekend is a demonstration of
the extent to which I have brought
this obligation upon myself. This is
something I am trying to get used to.”

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currently facing young
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        PEOPLE IN THE LAW
        PROFILE

The Innovators
Warrick McLean,
CEO, Coleman Greig Lawyers

LawFest organiser Andrew King continues a series of
interviews with key legal professionals with their inno-
vation and technology stories.

What does legal                           from traditional law firms. Having      easier for firms compared to what it
innovation mean to you?                   automation champions and drivers        was five years back. There are plenty
It means doing things better. It          of change is the key. These staff may   of AI platforms but for many firms
means being able to step back and         not be tech-savvy, but they seek        this is an area left to the big boys.
watch how you could join the dots         opportunities for improvements.         Delivering automation to much of
differently. Interestingly, this is a        The biggest opportunity lies in      our daily routine is the key where
skill not everyone has, and lawyers       automating tasks and workflows.         smaller firms can improve service
often tend to be challenged by            Many firms may use your existing        delivery, turnaround and productiv-
transformation.                           software rather than investing in       ity. AI will happen and is happening
   Legal innovation is important for      new technology.                         but only to a niche few at this stage.
our clients, firm productivity and
also for our current and prospective      What pressures are                      What opportunities
staff. Fifty-four percent of my firm’s    organisations facing                    has legal innovation
staff is millennial, so we get staff      in the delivery of                      brought to you?
to think about and find new ways          legal services?                         The push to change the way we
of doing things that are exciting,        Firms are very competitive. Changes     deliver our services is much less
interesting and challenging. Firms        are impacting on the profession         of a push these days. Lawyers are
need to challenge and engage their        as it is being driven by pro-active     actively highlighting the opportuni-
younger staff to think differently        firms and legal entrepreneurs. They     ties and seek assistance from prac-
and add value to the work. Engaging       are keen to cash in on an industry      tice service teams. It means legal
millennial staff the right way can        that has been historically slow to      innovation is no longer an internal
get the best from them and will           change. Clients are pushing some        sell and is now really gaining a life
help to potentially retain them for       of the changes but on the basis of      of its own.
longer. It costs a lot to train quality   our experience we need to challenge        If process improvement is your
talent, so retaining them for as long     our clients with different offerings    thing then it is an exciting time to
as possible is important.                 and ways of doing things.               be in law and for me, I simply enjoy
                                                                                  reflecting on how far our firm has
What role does                            What developments do                    come over the last ten years. We
technology play                           you see in how legal                    have not been bold but have just
in innovation?                            services are delivered?                 been very consistent at improving
Technology plays a crucial role in        Many smaller and mid-tier firms are     the way we do things.
getting a firm excited about the          now able to “get in on the action” as
opportunities that innovation can         the price of technology drops and       What are some of your
bring, as innovation is the key and       the number of legal technology start-   tips to start innovating
technology is simply an enabler.          ups increases. The challenge lies in    or developing an
  Getting partners to join the            execution. Many of the legal start-up   innovative mindset?
innovation bus. It is all about           offerings make the execution of legal   A few years back we picked a few
bringing people along for the ride        tech and innovation a whole lot         innovation champions to assist

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