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ISSUE 933 · October 2019

             Public Defence Service
                    An important influence on
                        criminal law practice

                           Reflections on a   Pro bono legal     Red flags! Is your   US lawyers,
                           ground­–breaking   services support   law office as        judges and
                           Feminist Moot      Canterbury         healthy as you       civil rights
                                              Muslim             think?
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                                                                6 ·   From the Law Society                                         Update
                                                                                                                           24 · Barriers to participation in
                                                                      New Zealand Law Society                                   the employment institutions
                                                               7 · New Zealand Law Society                                      ▹ BY CHIEF JUDGE CHRISTINA INGLIS
                                                              18 · A Changing Profession                                   26 · New Incorporated Societies
                                                                   ▹ BY GEOFF ADLAM                                             Act ▹ BY MARK VON DADELSZEN
                                                                                                                           29 · Supreme Court provides
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                                                  32                  People in the Law                                         guidance to lawyers on
                                                              10 · On the move                                                  testamentary capacity ▹ BY SALLY
                                                              16 · Wellington via golf, Gore and                                   MORRIS AND FREYA MCKECHNIE
                                                                   Glasgow ▹ BY ANGHARAD O’FLYNN
                                                              17 · Top barrister not afraid of a fight                             Access to justice
                                                                   ▹ BY TEUILA FUATAI                                      32 · Public Defence Service
                                                              19 · Reflections on a ground–                                     ▹ BY GEOFF ADLAM
                                                                   breaking Feminist Moot                                  39 · New technology aids access
                                                                   ▹ BY REBEKAH HILL, ELLEN LELLMAN                             to justice ▹ BY LYNDA HAGEN
                                                                      AND EMILY SCRIMGEOUR                                 41 · Lawyers battling for justice
                                                              21 · The value of friendship in                                   around the world
                                                                   law ▹ BY NICK BUTCHER                                   42 · Pro bono legal services
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        resolution                                            56 · New death notification service                                69 · Legal nomenclature –
45 · Running a major relationship                                  ▹ BY TRACEY CORMACK                                                from prolix to trendy
     property arbitration                                     57 · Windows 7 ▹ DAMIAN FUNNELL                                         ▹ BY SIR IAN BARKER QC
     ▹ BY ROBERT FISHER QC                                                                                                       71 · A big story to tell – US
46 · Reactive devaluation                                     59      Letters to the editor                                           lawyers, judges and civil
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48 · Being a supporter: a daughter’s                          60 · Disciplinary charges against                                  74 · Will notices
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        Practice
51 · Red flags! Is your law office                                    Legal information                                                   Lifestyle
     as healthy as you think?                                 66 · The Ethical Lawyer: Legal Ethics                              80 · A New Zealand Legal
     ▹ BY EMILY MORROW                                             and Professional Responsibility                                    Crossword ▹ SET BY MĀYĀ
                                                                   by Richard Scragg ▹ REVIEWED                                  81 · Garrow’s Law
	Creating a just culture                                              BY GARRY WILLIAMS                                               ▹ BY CRAIG STEPHEN
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F R O M T H E L AW S O C I E T Y

        FROM THE LAW SOCIETY

Law Society’s new
project to improve
access to justice
The phrase “access to justice” features frequently
on these pages, and in wider public debate. As a criminal
defence lawyer, who has worked largely on legal aid in a
small region with a high Māori population, my view of the
concept goes far wider than simple access to the courts.
However you look at it, the erosion of access to justice
jeopardises a person’s ability to be heard, exercise their
rights, challenge discrimination and hold decision-makers
to account.
   Barriers to access to justice have always existed, but it
is clear that these have increased over time, both in New
Zealand and globally. The Law Society has an important
role to play in breaking down those barriers and has been         to remuneration rates, and understanding the demographic
working for a number of years to improve access to justice        factors which underlie the steadily decreasing numbers
in a range of ways.                                               of legal aid practitioners.
   Some examples of the Law Society’s recent work in this             In-house lawyers are currently unable to provide pro-
area include:                                                     bono services to members of the public due to restrictions
   A detailed written submission in September 2018 on             in the Lawyers and Conveyancers Act. There is an exception
the Ministry of Justice’s Triennial Legal Aid Review. The         if that work is provided through a community law centre or
submission highlighted problems with eligibility for legal        a Citizens’ Advice Bureau, but that may still be an obstacle.
aid; clients’ difficulties with the application process; inade-   A member’s bill to address this issue is proposed, and the
quate remuneration; burdensome administration; provider           Law Society’s in-house lawyers section, ILANZ, is working
shortages and sustainability of the legal aid workforce.          with our regulatory department to improve opportunities
   Intervention in a Court of Appeal case heard in July 2019      for in-house lawyers to undertake pro-bono work through
about the extent to which the state is obliged to ensure          other routes.
that lawyers are available under the Police Detention Legal           Representatives from our Legal Service Committee
Assistance scheme to provide advice to detained suspects.         are working with colleagues from the New Zealand Bar
Our leading and junior counsel acted pro bono, with input         Association, who have established a working group to
from our criminal and legal services committees.                  improve access to justice for civil legal aid.
   Engagement with the Rules Committee’s access to justice            While this work will continue across the organisation
working group, looking at ways to reduce the complexity           and through the day-to-day work of the Law Society’s
and cost of civil litigation, including simplifying proce-        committees, we want to identify further opportunities for
dural rules. We have also been working with the Otago             Law Society contribution. To facilitate this, a new project,
Legal Issues Centre and the Rules Committee around the            aimed at influencing public understanding and support
provision of unbundled legal services. This is intended           for improved access to justice, has recently started. These
to enable lawyers to provide advice on discrete parts of          first steps involve carrying out research and engaging with
a case when an unrepresented litigant is unable to afford         academics and other stakeholders working in this area to
to pay for the whole case.                                        more fully understand the access to justice landscape in
   Other projects currently being undertaken include              New Zealand and overseas.
improving the availability of legal advice.                           We want to identify how the Law Society’s role and
   We hold regular meetings with senior officials in the          remit best place us to have the greatest impact, and to
Public Defence Service, Legal Aid Services and the Ministry       then develop and implement a programme of proactive
of Justice aimed at identifying and addressing issues which       and targeted initiatives to tackle the most significant access
affect legal aid lawyers’ day-to-day practice, as well as the     to justice issues in Aotearoa New Zealand. ▪
longer term viability of the legal aid system. We work on
everything from reducing the complexity of legal aid forms,       Tiana Epati
and resourcing issues which affect delays in bail hearings,       President, New Zealand Law Society

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        NEW ZEALAND LAW SOCIETY

Special court sitting in Christchurch
                                                 and reforms of its enabling legislation.          the law, including the government.
The 150th anniversary of the New                 “Each time reform has been in the air, the           “Equality before the law in this sense
Zealand Law Society was marked by the Law        profession has fought hard for the standing       requires a legal profession prepared to
Society’s Canterbury Westland branch with        and powers of its Law Society and for its         provide legal services without regard to
a special High Court sitting in Christchurch     independence.”                                    the identity of their client, or the popu-
on 5 September. Chief Justice Dame Helen           She described the Law Society as “no            larity of their client’s cause – a profession
Winkelmann presided at the sitting.              ordinary institution”.                            that cannot be pressured or bought off
   The special sitting of the High Court           “Through the work it does in supporting         by the rich or the powerful. It is for this
also included judges of the High Court,          and regulating an independent legal pro-          reason that the existence of an independ-
Employment Court and District Court,             fession, it has a critical role in our society.   ent legal profession is one of the hallmarks
along with Coroner Marcus Elliot and             A role so critical that it is no overstatement    of a society that lives under the rule of law.
retired judge of the High Court, Peter           to say that the Law Society is necessary to       Were it left to the government to regulate
Penlington.                                      our constitutional order.”                        and discipline lawyers, an unscrupulous
   Chief Justice Winkelmann told the               Chief Justice Winkelmann expanded on            government might use that power to
court that in the years since its creation       this by saying a society can only exist under     disempower or discipline lawyers who
in 1869, the Law Society has survived as         the rule of law if all have equal access to       argue cases the government would rather
an institution through various reviews           the benefit of the law and all are subject to     they not.” ▪

Law Society comments on Intellectual
Property Laws Amendment Bill
                                                    The Law Society also disagrees with              There is disagreement with a proposal
The Law Society has commented on                 MBIE’s assessment of the potential                for amendment of the Trade Marks Act
proposals to amend the Patents Acts 2013,        problems caused by “daisy-chaining” of            to remove the ability to register series
Trade Marks Act 2002, and the Designs            divisional patent applications. It says the       of trade marks. The Law Society says
Act 1953.                                        only alleged harm that could be caused            registered series marks provide certainty
    The Law Society has raised several issues    is a risk of uncertainty for third parties        as to the ambit of a trade mark owner’s
with proposed changes to the Patents Act.        which might want to take advantage of             rights and it favours their retention on
There is some uncertainty around the anal-       an invention without risk of infringement.        this basis.
ysis behind the proposed changes to the             “Such uncertainties are inherent through-        The Law Society commented on the
transitional provisions in the Patents Act.      out the patent system,” it says, noting that      potential use of artificial intelligence by
The Law Society had raised concerns about        as divisional uncertainties are just one          IPONZ, commenting that full public con-
a similar proposal in a 2016 discussion paper,   source of uncertainty within the patent           sultation is required before government
it says. The Law Society says that rather than   system. it would be useful to understand          departments are empowered by legislation
reducing the number of 1953 Act applications     why officials have identified these as a          to delegate discretionary decision-making
as intended, the proposal could increase it.     source of uncertainty requiring amendment.        to AI systems. ▪

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        NEW ZEALAND LAW SOCIETY

                                                             Canterbury Women
                                                             Lawyer Conference
                                                             New Zealand Law Society President Tiana Epati
                                                             opened the Canterbury Women’s Legal Association
                                                             Conference in Christchurch on 21 August. The conference
                                                             theme was “Navigating the Future”.

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                                                             Apology
New Zealand Law Society Vice-President (South
Island) Andrew Logan (left) and Nelson branch President
Andrew Shaw cut their way through a cake commemorat-
ing 150 years since the creation of the New Zealand Law
Society. A function at Nelson’s Boathouse on 24 August       Unfortunately we misspelt the first name of Te
was attended by over 100 guests.                             Wehi Wright on page 38 of the September 2019 issue of
   There were also dinners and special court sittings held   LawTalk. The error is greatly regretted and we apologise
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Wellington branch
special sitting

▴ The Wellington branch had a special sitting to commemorate the 150 year anniversary at the High Court.

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        PEOPLE IN THE LAW
        ON THE MOVE

Two District Court                               2019, was Chief Judge from 1991 to 2005.     specifically to help those impacted directly
Judges appointed                                   The memorial sitting will be held at 4pm   or indirectly by cancer. The scholarship is
                                                 on Thursday 7 November in Courtroom 5.01     intended to be offered to a minimum of
Auckland barrister Clare Bennett and             of the Employment Court on Level 5 of        one UC student per annum at a value of
Napier barrister Jonathan Krebs have been        the District Court building, 49 Ballance     $10,000 in perpetuity.
appointed District Court Judges.                 Street, Wellington. It will be followed by     The charity’s vision is to make a practical
  Clare Bennett was admitted as a                refreshments.                                impact for someone living with a cancer
barrister and solicitor in December 1986,          “This special sitting will provide an      diagnosis or their family members who
practising in Hamilton from 1989, then in        opportunity for practitioners to remember    need support through the journey.
chambers in Manukau and Auckland from            former Chief Judge Tom Goddard and to          Chalky Carr was awarded the New
1999. She was appointed Youth Advocate in        reflect on his significant contribution to   Zealand Bravery Medal by the Governer-
1989, and has chaired the last two triennial     employment law and practise,” the Chief      General for his actions saving lives from the
National Youth Advocates Conferences.            Judge of the Employment Court, Judge         collapsed CTV building in the immediate
  Ms Bennett holds approval for all cate-        Christina Inglis, says.                      aftermath of the February 2011 quake. Mr
gories with the Legal Services Agency and                                                     Carr was the All Blacks Logistics Manager
has been a member of the Litigation Skills       Sir Anand Satyanand                          when diagnosed with pancreatic cancer
Faculty since 2004. She will be sworn in         inducted into Kiwi-                          in 2016.
on 3 October 2019 at the Manukau District        Indian Hall of Fame
Court. She will have jury jurisdiction and                                                    Holland Beckett
will be based on the North Shore.                Former Governer-General, the Sir Anand       promotes six to
  Jonathon Krebs was                             Satyanand, has been inducted into the        Associate positions
admitted as a barrister                          Kiwi-Indian Hall of Fame. The ceremony
and solicitor in April                           was held on 9 August at the Cordis Hotel.    Six staff of Bay of Plenty firm Holland
1988. He was a partner                           Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern presented      Beckett Law have been promoted to
of Hawke’s Bay Crown                             the award.                                   Associate roles.
Solicitors, Elvidge &                              The Kiwi-Indian Hall of Fame award was        Joel Murphy specialises in property
Partners between 2002                            introduced in 2013 to recognise and honour   and commercial law. He has experience
and 2006, and was sec-                           the efforts of prominent personalities in    in a broad range of
onded to the Attorney-General’s Office in        the New Zealand-Indian community. One        property and commer-
Apia, Samoa at the end of 2006.                  person is inducted annually, recognised      cial matters including
  Mr Krebs’ principal focus in his career        for their significant contribution to the    commercial, rural and
has been criminal and civil litigation. He       development and progress of the both         residential acquisitions
was the convenor of the New Zealand Law          Indian community and New Zealand.            and disposals, leasing,
Society’s Criminal Law Committee for 10                                                       financing, property
years and is a past President of the Hawke’s     Criminal Justice                             developments and sub-
Bay District Law Society.                        student inaugural                            divisions, due diligence and commercial
  In 2012 he was Director of the NZLS CLE        recipient of new                             contracts.
Ltd litigation skills programme.                 University scholarship                          Prior to joining Holland Beckett Law in
  Judge Krebs will be sworn in on 1                                                           January 2019, Joel spent five years working
October 2019 in Napier. He will have             Mario Williams has                           in a large Auckland law firm and then most
jury jurisdiction and will be based in           been announced as                            recently two years working in-house in
Palmerston North.                                the first recipient of                       London.
                                                 the Chalky Carr Trust                           Dan Broadhurst joined the firm in
Memorial sitting for                             Scholarship.                                 2014. Admitted as a
Chief Judge Goddard                                 Mr Williams, a                            barrister and solicitor
on 7 November                                    first-year Bachelor of                       in 2010, Dan special-
                                                 Criminal Justice stu-                        ises in property and
The Employment Court will hold a                 dent, was presented the scholarship by       commercial law and
memorial sitting on 7 November 2019 to           Chalky Carr Trust Patron Gemma McCaw         retains a general focus
commemorate former Chief Judge Tom               at an official ceremony.                     including relationship
Goddard’s contribution to employment                The Chalky Carr Trust Scholarship         property, asset protec-
law. Mr Goddard, who died on 14 March            has been set up in conjunction with the      tion and estate planning. Dan studied law
                                                 University of Canterbury (UC) Foundation     at Victoria University after beginning his

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working career as a primary school teacher.     Jess Warn started at                     financing, acquisition
   Pip Allan has been promoted to asso-       Holland Beckett in 2013                    and disposal of com-
ciate after joining the                       as a graduate solicitor,                   mercial and residential
firm in May 2018 as a                         and returned in October                    properties, all aspects
senior solicitor. Pip has                     2018, after travelling                     of commercial leasing
a broad range of civil                        and working in-house                       including providing
litigation experience,                        for a technology                           legal advice to a broad
with particular exper-                        start-up in Vancouver,                     range of clients in
tise in construction and                      Canada. Jess advises on a wide range of    commercial and business transactions.
insolvency law. She                           commercial and corporate law matters.
also advises on property and insurance                                                   Rachael Dewar Law
disputes.                                     Morrison Kent announces                    announces three
   After completing                           new partner                                movements
her studies in New
Zealand, Rachel Rosser                        Joseph Kim has been                        Wellington-based family and property
began her legal career                        a p p o i n t e d Pa r t n e r             firm Rachael Dewar Law has two recent
in Melbourne where                            in Morrison Kent’s                         appointments and one promotion.
she appeared regu-                            Auckland office.                              Amy Gulbransen has been promoted to
larly in both State and                          Joseph began his                        Associate. Joining the
Federal courts. Rachel                        career at Morrison                         firm in July 2018, Amy
has experience in general litigation and      Kent in Auckland in                        works in all areas of
relationship disputes, and advises her        2010, joining one of the                   family law with a par-
clients on all aspects of civil litigation,   firm’s commercial/property teams and was   ticular interest in rela-
employment and family law matters. She        promoted to associate in 2016.             tionship property, care
also holds an additional interest in animal      Joseph is experienced in property law   of children and domestic
and equine law.                               with particular expertise in property      violence matters.
   Tim Conder special-                        acquisitions, developments, financing         Amy graduated from the University of
ises in litigation, with                      and leasing matters. He is also expe-      Canterbury in 2010, and was admitted at
a particular focus on                         rienced in advising on commercial          the High Court in May 2013 after working
trust and estate dis-                         contracts, structuring and commercial      and travelling overseas.
putes and regulatory                          transactions.                                 Sarah McGovern joined Rachael Dewar
prosecutions. After                                                                      Law in January 2019,
being admitted in 2015,                       Loo & Koo appoints                         practising across all
Tim has appeared reg-                         new partner                                family law areas with
ularly in the District Court, High Court                                                 a special interest in
and Court of Appeal on a variety of           Bibiana Lee has joined Loo & Koo as a      advocacy and Oranga
criminal and civil matters. He has also       partner in the firm’s commercial team.     Tamariki proceedings.
published a number of academic arti-            Bibiana has extensive experience in         Sarah graduated with
cles, particularly in the area of criminal    matters relating to property develop-      an LLB from Kings Inns,
sentencing.                                   ment and subdivision, development          Dublin, practising in Ireland before being
                                                                                         admitted at the High Court in Nelson in
                                                                                         June 2010. Sarah was recently appointed
                                                                                         to the lawyer for child list and is available
                                                                                         for agency court appearances.
                                                                                            Ruby Hey has joined
                                                                                         Rachael Dewar Law.
                                                                                         She was admitted at
                                                                                         the High Court in June
                                                                                         2019 after graduating
                                                                                         with a LLB and BA in
                                                                                         International Relations
                                                                                         and Political Science
                                                                                         from Victoria University.

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   Ruby volunteers at the Wellington             resources and property, then shifting            Peter specialises in
Community Law Centre and is undertaking          focus to climate change.                       commercial and com-
a wide range of family law work, including         He eventually started his own firm           mercial property law.
relationship property, child law and family      looking at greenhouse gas reduction              He was admitted to
violence.                                        projects in China, which then shifted to       the at the High Court
                                                 sustainable operations of agribusiness         in 2003 and the New
DLA Piper’s Tracey                               in Indonesia.                                  York Bar in 2010. He
Cross appointed to AIA                                                                          holds LLB, BCom and
New Zealand Board                                James Warren                                   LLM (first class honours) degrees from the
                                                 promoted to Partner                            University of Auckland, and an LLM from
Tracey Cross, a partner at DLA Piper New         at Kensington Swan                             Cornell University (New York).
Zealand, has been appointed to interna-
tional insurance firm AIA New Zealand’s          James Warren has                               Chapman Tripp promotes
board.                                           j o i n e d Ke n s i n g t o n                 three senior solicitors
   Tracey’s senior involvement includes          Swan’s partnership as
being the leader of DLA Piper’s conduct          an employment law                              Chapman Tripp’s Wellington office has
and culture initiative, and the Chair of         specialist.                                    announced the pro-
DLA Piper NZ’s Leadership Alliance for               Formerly a partner at                      motion of three senior
Women, an initiative that supports the           UK firm Fieldfisher in                         lawyers.
advancement of female lawyers into               London, James joined                              Rosa McPhee spe-
leadership.                                      Kensington Swan as Special Counsel in          cialises in property,
   Tracey’s expertise is in funds manage-        October 2018.                                  infrastructure and con-
ment and superannuation.                             Admitted at the High Court in 1998, he     struction law. Admitted
                                                 has a particular interest in the technology,   at the High Court in
Joanna Hayward                                   media and financial services sectors, as       December 2015, she has
appointed acting General                         well as multi-jurisdictional projects and      a particular interest in
Counsel at OPC                                   business transformations.                      commercial construc-
                                                                                                tion and leasing.
Joanna Hayward has been appointed                Wook Lee joins                                    Jasmin Moran spe-
acting General Counsel to the Privacy            Kensington Swan                                cialises in litigation
Commissioner as the Office prepares for                                                         and dispute resolution.
the enactment of new privacy law later           Wo o k L e e j o i n s                         Admitted at the High
this year.                                       Kensington Swan’s                              Court in December
   Joanna has been an adviser at OPC             corporate and com-                             2015, she focuses on
since 2014 and was formerly an adviser           mercial team as Special                        energy, insurance and
to the Law Commission on information             Counsel. He is intended                        fishing industries.
law reform projects including the law of         to join the partnership                           Millie Singh spe-
privacy, official information, search and        once he has fulfilled NZ                       cialises in competition
surveillance, harmful digital communica-         Law Society regulatory                         and regulatory law with
tions and news media. She is a graduate          requirements.                                  experience in interna-
of Canterbury University and is an expe-           Wook has 12 years’ experience in corpo-      tional trade matters
rienced practitioner in public, commercial       rate advisory, governance and transactional    focused in the Pacific. Admitted at the
and banking law.                                 matters, including M&A, divestments            High Court in December 2014, she advises
                                                 and equity capital raisings. He is fluent in   industries on merger control, enforcement
Mark Harding joins                               Korean and was recognised as a ‘Rising star    and Commerce Act regulation.
Cooney Lees Morgan                               lawyer’ for the corporate and M&A practice
                                                 area 2018 and 2019 Asialaw Profiles.           Glaister Ennor promotes
Mark Harding has joined Bay of Plenty                                                           two new partners
firm Cooney Lees Morgan as an Associate          New Director at
in the resource management and local             Carson Fox Legal                               Two senior associates have become part-
government team.                                                                                ners in Auckland law firm Glaister Ennor’s
   Mark practised for 12 years in Asia from      Peter Liao has been appointed Director         litigation and disputes resolution team.
2006, beginning in Shanghai in energy,           at Carson Fox Legal.                              Mitch Singh has been promoted to

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Partner. He specialises                       Fiona Brown as Chief                         Principal. A trade mark specialist, Margot
in commercial and                             Legal Officer.                               works on trade marks and related IP rights
civil disputes, with                             Moving from General                       within and beyond New Zealand in areas
particular expertise                          Counsel and Company                          such as food and beverage, fast-moving
in contract, property,                        Secretary at Kiwibank,                       consumer goods, luxury goods and build-
insolvency, privacy and                       Fiona is experienced                         ing industries.
cross-border disputes.                        across legal, govern-                           Admitted at the High Court July 2008,
   Mitch graduated with                       ance, commercial and                         she also specialises in non-traditional trade
a Bachelor of Laws from the University        risk management roles.                       marks including shape,
Otago in 2009, was admitted at the High          She began her law career with Chapman     colour and sound.
Court in September 2010, and gradu-           Tripp before taking on a number of roles        Matt Hayes has been
ated with a LLM from the University of        spanning 11 years at ANZ, including Head     promoted to Principal.
Auckland in 2017.                             of Governance, Chief of Staff and Head of    A member of the lit-
   Chen Jiang has been                        Securitisation.                              igation and disputes
promoted to Partner. He                                                                    resolution team, Matt
is a litigation specialist                    AJ Park promotes                             specialises in resolv-
across commercial,                            four, welcomes one                           ing disputes such as designs, misleading
civil and family areas                                                                     advertising and product claims, counterfiet
and graduated with a                          Australasian intellectual property firm      goods and regulatory issues.
Bachelor of Laws and                          AJ Park has announced the promotion of          Admitted at the High Court in December
Bachelor of Arts in                           four lawyers to Principals and appointed     2001, Matt’s experienced at representing
2008.                                         a new Senior Associate to their team as      clients in negotiations and mediations
   Admitted at the High Court in March        of July 1 2019.                              before the New Zealand and Australian
2010, Chen’s expertise includes contracts,       Jonathan Aumonier-                        Courts, IPONZ and IP
trusts and estates, companies, property and   Ward has been pro-                           Australia.
construction, insurance and relationship      moted to Principal. He                          Natalie Harre has
property.                                     is an experienced trade                      joined AJ Park’s litiga-
                                              mark and copyright                           tion and dispute resolu-
David Tyree joins                             specialist, being rec-                       tion team in Auckland.
McWilliam Rennie                              ognised by the World                            Natalie has extensive
                                              Trademark Review as                          experience advising on
David Tyree has joined                        a leading IP practitioner in New Zealand.    a range of intellectual property matters,
specialist family law                            Jonathan was admitted at the High         such as trade marks, copyright, patents,
practice McWilliam                            Court in May 2001, with vast experience      border protection, parallel importing and
Rennie as an Associate.                       across the food and beverage, cosmetics,     consumer law including the FTA and CGA.
David has practised for                       pharmaceuticals and ICT industries.          She also advises on terms of engagement
15 years in Taranaki and                         Kieran O’Connell                          for social media influencers and other
Wellington, specialising                      has been promoted                            social media issues.
and leading teams in                          to Principal. Admitted
family law.                                   at the High Court in                         EIS legal welcomes
   David’s expertise includes separation,     2003, he joined AJ Park                      two new solicitors
relationship property, contracting out        in 2008 specialising in
agreements, childcare, guardianship pro-      trademark and copy-                          The Ministry of Education’s Education
ceedings relating to decision making for      right. Kieran’s clien-                       Infrastructure Service’s in-house legal
vulnerable people under the Protection of     tele ranges from local to international in   team (EIS legal) welcomes two new solic-
Personal and Property Rights Act, enduring    areas such as craft beer,                    itors to its construction
power of attorney and challenging estates.    organic foods, cosmet-                       division.
                                              ics and pharmaceuti-                            Courtney Deed has
Fiona Brown joins                             cals. He also provided                       joined as a Construction
Southern Cross                                advice around the New                        Solicitor within the
Health Society                                Zealand flag debate.                         Wellington Office.
                                                 Margot Smith has                             Courtney joins EIS
Southern Cross Health Society welcomes        been promoted to                             Legal from private

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practice where she has specialised in            Wellington Family                              Samantha Moore
resolving construction disputes.                 Law partnership to                          has just qualified from
   Sarah Lester                                  become Chambers                             AUT University and
joins as the Senior                                                                          having completed her
Construction Solicitor                           The partners of Wellington Family Law,      P ro fe s s i o n a l L e ga l
within the Christchurch                          Caroline Hannan, Sija Spaak and Chris       Studies, she has joined
office. Sarah brings                             Dellabarca, advise that their partner-      the Auckland property
unique construction                              ship will dissolve with effect from 30      team as a solicitor.
experience with the                              September 2019.                                Olivia MacFarlane
Christchurch rebuild                                With effect from 1 October 2019, the     joins the Christchurch-
from her time at EQC.                            partners will be practising as barristers   based property team
   She will be focused on the Ministry’s $1      from Wellington Family Law Chambers.        as a solicitor. Olivia
billion plus Christchurch Schools Rebuild           The partners state “we would like to     works with the team
programme.                                       take this opportunity to thank everybody    on a diverse range of
                                                 who has been involved in any way with       property matters.
Air New Zealand                                  Wellington Family Law since its inception
welcomes Astrid                                  in 1994, and look forward to continuing     Harkness Henry
Sandberg                                         those relationships from our Chambers.”     announces two new
                                                                                             appointments
Astrid Sandberg has                              Five new team
joined Air New Zealand                           members at                                  William Zhang has
as Senior Workplace                              Anthony Harper                              been appointed to
Relations Manager.                                                                           the litigation team.
   Prior to this, Astrid                         Susan Lyall has                             William has recently
was Senior Legal                                 joined the trust and                        returned to Hamilton
Counsel at Vodafone                              asset planning team                         from Gisborne where
New Zealand, Head of                             in Christchurch as a                        he has spent three
Employment Law (EMEA) for the Royal              Senior Associate. She                       years practising pri-
Bank of Scotland, and in private practise        has expertise in trusts,                    marily in family and criminal litigation.
in the UK and at Russell McVeagh in New          asset protection, elder                     William speaks fluent Mandarin and
Zealand.                                         law, estate planning                        Shanghainese and will be developing his
   Astrid holds a BA/LLB (Hons) from the         and wills. Susan is also an experienced     civil litigation practice.
University of Auckland and an LLM from           family lawyer.                                 Recent graduate, Jay
Cambridge University. She is a member of            Olivia Welsh has                         Rajendram has been
the ADLS Employment Law Committee.               joined the health and                       appointed as a law clerk
                                                 safety team as a Senior                     in the resource manage-
Franks Ogilvie appoints                          Associate in Auckland.                      ment and employment
new Senior Consultant                            She has experience in                       team. Jay is currently
                                                 providing health and                        completing his profes-
Brigitte Morten has joined Wellington law        safety legal compliance                     sionals’ studies and is
firm Franks Ogilvie as a Senior Consultant.      advice to businesses                        expected to be admitted in late 2019.
The firm says she brings for clients strate-     and regularly advises clients on ways
gic communications and issue advocacy            to address risks in their particular work   Rainey Collins appoints
insights.                                        activities. Olivia also provides guidance   new associate
   Brigitte graduated with a Bachelor            and representation to clients following
of Laws and Bachelor of Arts in 2006             workplace incidents.                        Emily Martinez has
from Victoria University of Wellington,             Tom Brodie joins                         been promoted to
a Masters in Law from the Australian             the property team in                        associate from 1 August.
National University in 2009, and has             Auckland as a solicitor.                    She graduated from the
a post-graduate diploma in Counter               Tom’s work includes                         University of Otago
Terrorism from the Interdisciplinary             advice on a wide range                      with an LLB with first
Centre in Herzliya, Israel.                      of property matters                         class honours.
   She has previously been a Senior              including commercial                           Emily is in the firm’s
Ministerial Advisor in the New Zealand           and unit title acqui-                       litigation team, focusing principally on
Government and has experience across             sitions, subdivisions, high rise develop-   Māori legal matters. She works with
Australian state and federal politics.           ments, rural and residential properties.    whānau, hapū and iwi in claims before

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the Waitangi Tribunal, and has a particular   specialises in com-
interest in Māori education, health, and      mercial property and
socioeconomic claim issues.                   retail leasing, and also
                                              provides advice on
Saunders Robinson                             commercial contracts,
Brown appoints four                           company structuring,                            General Counsel, much of his focus in the
to commercial team                            joint ventures and                              first year on the job will relate to the new
                                              trust law.                                      Trusts Act 2019, which will come into effect
Four new lawyers have joined SRB’s com-                                                       on 30 January 2021.
mercial team, specialising in commercial      Alexandra Allen-Franks
property and projects.                        awarded Cambridge
  Jonathan Gillard                            Trust Scholarship                                  Advertising in
was admitted as a                                                                                LawTalk and
barrister and solicitor                       Alexandra Allen-Franks has been awarded            LawPoints
in December 1987.                             a Cambridge Trust Scholarship and a Trinity
His experience is in                          Hall Research Studentship to study a PhD           Advertising inquiries can be directed
commercial property                           at the University of Cambridge beginning           to advertising@lawsociety.org.nz.
acquisitions & dispos-                        in October 2019.                                   Information on conditions, rates
als and retail leasing,                          Her research will consider admissi-             and deadlines is available on the
investment in New Zealand, commercial         bility of evidence obtained in breach of           Law Society website under News
contracts, rural property and trusts.         human rights in both criminal and civil            and Communications/LawTalk.
  Jeff Kenny led the                          proceedings.
commercial property                              Alexandra was admitted as a barrister
and projects team at                          and solicitor in October 2014. She is a grad-
Wynn Williams until                           uate of the University of Otago, a former          Contributing
2019. He specialises in                       Judges’ Clerk of the Auckland High Court           information to
retail property develop-                      and a former junior barrister to Andrew            On the Move
ment and leasing. Jeff                        Brown QC at Bankside Chambers.
is also a recognised                                                                             Brief summaries of information
author of legal publications and frequent     Henry Stokes joins                                 about promotions, changes in law
speaker at legal conferences.                 Perpetual Guardian                                 firms, recruitment and retirement
  Josh Orton was                                                                                 are published without charge in On
admitted as a barrister                       Perpetual Guardian                                 the Move (which is also available on
and solicitor in 2003. He                     has appointed Henry                                the Law Society website). Please
specialises in large scale                    S t o ke s a s G e n e r a l                       send information as an email or MS
acquisitions, disposals,                      Counsel.                                           Word document (no PDFs please)
subdivisions, leasing                            Henry brings a                                  to editor@lawsociety.org.nz.
and development                               wealth of trustee ser-                             Submissions should be three or four
projects.                                     vices experience from                              sentences without superlatives. We
  Katrina Wood graduated with a               in-house and private                               may edit them to conform to the
Bachelor of Laws with first class hon-        practice roles, most recently serving as           format used. A jpeg photo may be
ours in 2016, and has previously been         General Counsel for state-owned company            included but please ensure you
a member of Wynn Williams’ commer-            Public Trust.                                      have permission for us to use it.
cial property and projects team. She             In addition to Henry’s core duties as

                                                                         Announcement
                               Ross Knight, a specialist in trust, estate and relationship property litigation, will
                               be retiring as a partner of TGT Legal on 31 October 2019, to practice as a
                               barrister sole, from 1 November 2019.
                               Ross will be joining Old South British Chambers situated on level 3 South British
                               Insurance Company Limited Building, 3-13 Shortland Street, Auckland CBD.
                                                                    www.rossknight.com

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        PEOPLE IN THE LAW
        N E W I N T H E L AW

Wellington via golf,
Gore and Glasgow
Honor Kerry, judge’s clerk at
the Court of Appeal, Wellington
BY ANGHARAD
   O’FLYNN

                                                    for both of us. I also remember a par-            university. These gave me an idea of what
Born in Glasgow, Scotland, Honor                    ent-teacher interview in year 10 where            working in the law might be like.
Kerry spent the first four years of her life        my social science teacher said that she              “While I didn’t know much about what
living in the Shetland Islands, the northern-       wanted to see me as a lawyer or a politician      it looked like in a practical sense, I did
most point of Scotland.                             changing the law and creating policies to         come out of school with firm expecta-
   “My parents wanted to move back to the           make Aotearoa a better place. I have been         tions of how I want to be treated and
Scottish mainland when it came time for             fairly focused on the law ever since.”            how to treat others – equally and with
me to start school but they felt that, as a                                                           respect for their individual dignity and
teacher and a physio, they wouldn’t be able         What do you enjoy most about                      differences.
to give my brother and I the upbringing             being a judge’s clerk in the Court                   “I started working in the law in January
that they wanted for us in Scotland. They           of Appeal and the work you do?                    2018, about the same time as the publica-
decided instead to give New Zealand a               “What I enjoy most about being a clerk            tion of revelations about the profession
two-year trial and we are all still here 20         is the exposure that I get to all manner of       which were far from those, perhaps naive,
years later.                                        legal issues and factual situations. I have       expectations. I am, however, pleased to see
   “My family initially moved to Gore as            gained an insight into parts of society,          the cultural change that is starting to take
it was the first place where my dad could           business and government that I had (in            place and hope that my naïve, but none-
get a job. Within a year both of my parents         some circumstances the privilege of) not          theless firm and continuing, expectations
had found jobs in Christchurch and we               having any experience in before. I am             will be met.”
moved north. Despite then moving to                 constantly learning.
Auckland for university, and now living                “I also really enjoy the people that I have    Are there any issues currently
in Wellington, I remain a very proud                come across in this role. I have wonderful        facing young lawyers that
Cantabrian.”                                        colleagues, have worked with fantastic            you’d like to highlight?
                                                    people in the wider community, and have           “As noted, the legal profession in New
When did you decide that you wanted                 the – unlikely to be repeated – privilege         Zealand requires meaningful cultural
to work in the legal profession?                    of Court of Appeal judges listening to my         change to restore its mana.
“I don’t have any lawyers in my family              opinions on a daily basis.”                          “The profession has serious issues with
but my extremely intelligent and assertive                                                            mental health, sexual harassment, bully-
great-grandmother wanted to be a lawyer.            After finishing your studies, did                 ing, discrimination and a lack of diversity.
This, however, wasn’t the done thing at the         you find the job matched the                      I think that all of these issues boil down to
time and the powers that be prevented               expectations you had in school?                   a lack of respect for one another and the
her from doing so. She went on to become            “While I wanted to work in the law from a         privileged positions that we, as lawyers,
the British women’s champion in golf. I             relatively young age, I had very little idea of   hold in society.
like to think that she channelled all of her        what that would look like. The law is not a          “These are serious issues and we must
energy and intellect into hitting golf balls        particularly accessible profession for young      do better if we want to retain the people
further and more accurately than those              people. I had the privilege of not having to      that can make the most positive change
who prevented her from doing the same               deal with the law in any substantive sense        to our legal system.” ▪
with legal arguments.                               until I got to law school.
   “Her story both inspired and frustrated             “I had the opportunity to do some              Angharad O’Flynn is a Wellington-based
me and it spurred me to work in the law             summer clerkships while I was at                  journalist.

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        PEOPLE IN THE LAW
        PROFILE

Top barrister not
afraid of a fight
Belinda Sellars QC
BY TEUILA
   FUATAI

                                          in the 10-strong group of appointees     There was a time when there didn’t
For Belinda Sellars it has                last November.                           seem to be room for much else –
always been about the underdog.              “I’ve had so much positive reac-      particularly the end of the 80s and
   From her days as a junior in the       tion, particularly from younger          the 90s. All you did was think about
District Court representing some of       lawyers and women and people of          how much [you were going to bill].”
Auckland’s most determined drink          different backgrounds,” she says.           And while men still dominate
drivers, to her current post as one of    “I find that very pleasing – that        the legal profession, progress since
the country’s top criminal barristers,    I can be somebody that can be            her early days has been significant,
Ms Sellars does not shy away from         approached.”                             she says.
a fight.                                                                              “It’s interesting talking about
   “I’ve had a circuitous route,” she     Law in a less                            diversity in the law now. When I
says modestly from her Chancery           dominating age                           first started, it really was lots of old
Street chambers.                          Related comments on the topic            white men, even though we were
   “I started pretty early. I was still   of “diversity in the law”, and the       equal amounts coming through law
only 16 when I started university.        increasing prominence it has             school. There were women around,
I had missed seventh form which           received in recent years, show a         but they seemed to fade away quite
wasn’t that unheard of in my day.”        maturing of both Belinda Sellars         quickly. That still happens now, but
   Counting backwards, she figures        and the profession.                      hopefully it’s changing a bit.”
she was just 21 when she began               It starts with her path into law.        One of the things she has noticed,
representing clients.                     Coming from a family of lawyers,         which underlies the need for
   “That does sound very young. I         it seemed like a natural fit and         better representation in the legal
can’t remember exactly, but it would      “eminently doable”, she says             workforce, is how her presence as
have been around that.”                   light-heartedly.                         a person of mixed ethnicity often
   Now, at the age of 47, she is about       With Vietnamese heritage, she         puts some clients at ease.
to mark a year since being appointed      stands out from the stable of “old          “I sort of look like I’m of no fixed
Queen’s Counsel in November 2018.         white men” which has dominated           ethnicity. It’s actually an advantage
While there may not have been             the profession, though that was          because clients feel comfortable.
much time for reflection since the        not something she paid much              And I think it’s something that we
announcement last year, her wide          attention to.                            often underestimate – how seeing
smile when asked about it tells its          Rather, it was all about the work,    someone who might share your
own story.                                Ms Sellars says.                         background can impact that client/
   “It’s extraordinary,” she says. “I’m      “I suppose it was a familiar          advocate relationship.”
so thrilled by it. It had been some-      environment to me because of my             Ms Sellars has Vietnamese ances-
thing that I had always thought           family and always being around it.       try and speaks French, which she
would be a wonderful thing to             But, I now see how it must be quite      picked up to communicate with her
achieve and I’m incredibly grateful.”     unsettling for someone, particularly     maternal side of the family.
   Unpicking reactions to her             if you don’t have the background.           “My mother was Vietnamese,
appointment results in an inter-             “Honestly, I’ve probably spent        but most of her family lived in
esting discussion about changes in        my career just sort-of looking in        France,” she says. “I couldn’t speak
the legal industry during Ms Sellars’     one direction and charging ahead a       Vietnamese so I basically learned
career. She was one of five women         bit, rather than reflecting that much.   French so I could speak to them.”

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Drink drivers, commercial                                          “I’d like it if the public was re-educated about what
law and the PDS                                                  prison actually does and just the fact that when a person
When asked about her choice of criminal defence work,            gets into that cycle, it’s so hard to ever get out.”
Ms Sellars points to her time as part of the original              The reaction of certain clients and their family mem-
Public Defence Service pilot team in Auckland as a               bers when they interact with the system for the first
crucial career point.                                            time provides a bit of reassurance, she says.
   Launched in 2004 under Michael Corry, the service               “One thing about our system is there’s this perception
was her re-entry into criminal work after six years at           that everything is there for the defendant. That couldn’t
Russell McVeagh. Her stint at the firm followed two solid        be further from the truth. It’s very dehumanising ... right
years wrangling drink driving cases under Auckland               down from the way you stand, the way you’re talked
barrister Michael Harte.                                         about and the way you’re addressed.
   “It was great because I got into court and I got lots of        “It always amazes me when you get clients who
exposure,” she says of her junior barrister days.                have never had anything to do with the criminal justice
   “The clientele was real estate agents and car dealers.        system and would be the ‘sorts’ that would be attracted
They were people desperate to keep their licences and            to some of the messages from the Sensible Sentencing
were definitely a certain sort of person. It wasn’t the          Trust or something like that,” Ms Sellars says.
most politically correct of times,” she says with a laugh.         “It only takes for them to be charged or a member of
   “He [Harte] had quite a unique approach to things             the family to be charged to take on an entirely different
but he was a great teacher. Seeing how he worked as              perspective.”
an advocate was an education in itself.”
   When she wanted to “spread her wings”, Michael                Stress, injustice and satisfaction
Harte insisted she seek employment at Russell McVeagh.           Overall, Ms Sellars credits a full and varied career, with
   “So, I did. It was general litigation and lots of interest-   numerous support people and mentors.
ing work. But I came to a point where I thought it wasn’t           There have been so many memorable moments, she says.
quite me and that even though I enjoyed it, something               The successful appeal for mercy of Tyson Redman,
was missing.”                                                    who went to prison for assault following a wrongful
   Being back in the thick of the District Court with the        conviction in 2007, sticks out.
PDS cemented things for her, she says.                              “It was when I was still at the PDS that I started an
   “I think what had been missing for me at Russell              application for the prerogative of mercy. That took five
McVeagh was possibly a sense of purpose. I was finding           years to be granted. It ended up almost 10 years after the
commercial litigation a bit unfulfilling.                        events that we were listening to these witnesses again,
   “With criminal law, there’s a lot of social interaction.      but this time they were in the Court of Appeal,” she says.
You do often feel like you’re giving back quite a lot.”             There is also the case of a disabled man, who was rep-
   After five years with the PDS and promotion to a senior       resenting himself during a retrial in the Court of Appeal
lawyer position, Ms Sellars took the leap and joined the         for sexual offences. “He felt so strongly and argued for
independent bar in 2009. Since then, her career has gone         himself even though he had a speech impediment. I
from strength to strength.                                       took him through the journey of a trial again, where
                                                                 he was acquitted.”
Underdogs and unhelpful clickbait                                   Smatterings of dry, twisted humour from various drugs
When asked if she ever considered a move to prosecu-             cases are also mentioned.
tion, she grins and quickly asserts her position on the             And then there is her first murder case.
Auckland Crown Prosecutions Panel. “But I haven’t yet               “It was about a mother charged with killing her baby.
prosecuted.”                                                     That was pretty sad.”
   “I suppose I’ve always liked being on the side of the            After explaining the woman’s progress in a prison
underdog. That said, I think it’s always good to be able         reintegration programme, Belinda Sellars pauses briefly.
to look at things from both sides. And to be a good              She then cuts directly to what it is all about.
advocate and adviser, you need to do that,” she says.               “It’s the cases where you have a real feeling there’s
   Her measured approach extends to other facets of              been an injustice of some sort. Those are the ones that
society which impact criminal law. When we discuss               are the most stressful and most rewarding. I’ve had
the impact of media coverage on cases, and criminal              quite a few of those over the years in different forms.
justice issues, she shakes her head. The headline-grab-          They cause you incredible stress at the time, because
bing slant often put on cases and criminal issues adds           you have a feeling that ‘this is riding on me’. But, they’re
to misinformation about the justice system, she says.            so satisfying when you get the right result.” ▪
   “When things in the media over popularise calls
that say ‘prison is the answer’ and ‘longer prison is the        Teuila Fuatai teuila.fuatai@gmail.com is an Auckland
answer’, it is really concerning,” she says.                     journalist.

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