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THE MAGAZINE OF THE
NEW JERSEY JAZZ SOCIETY   JerseyJazz                 JANUARY 2022
                                                 VOLUME 50 ISSUE 01

                            JAZZ at KEAN STAGE

            BRANFORD MARSALIS QUARTET
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IN THIS ISSUE
                                                             ARTICLES/REVIEWS                    COLUMNS
                                                             08   January Jazz Social:           03            All That’s Jazz
                                                                  Dara Tucker
                                                                                                 05            Editor’s Choice
                                                             10   Big Band in the Sky
                                                                                                 37            From the Crow’s Nest
                                                             14   Jazz History:
                                                                                                 43            Not Without You
                                                                  Celebrating Frank Wess
                                                             20   Jazz at Kean Stage:
                                                                  Branford Marsalis Quartet
                                                             24   Talking Jazz:
                                                                  Marcus McLaurine
                                                             29   Rising Star: Caelan Cardello
                                                             32   Jazz at NJPAC: Bill Charlap
                                                             33   Jazz at the Blue Note:
                                                                  Bob James
ON THE COVER _ The Branford Marsalis Quartet. From left,
Marsalis, Justin Faulkner, Eric Revis, and Joey Calderazzo   39   Other Views

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ALL THAT’S JAZZ
BY CY DNE Y HA LPIN

H
      appy New Year!! It’s been a         Cowles, Fanny Delsol, Susan Donnell,     ganizations/companies who con-              at Sea, Bell & Shivas, P.C., Ocean Coun-
      challenge and privilege to serve    Christopher Drukker, Bill Farrington,    tributed to the ongoing efforts and         ty College, Sandy Sasso, Larry Fuller
      the New Jersey Jazz Society as      Piper Ferguson, Neil Grabowsky,          operations of NJJS in 2021: Sanford         Trio, Richard Engel, Rosalind Grant,
Board President this past year, and I’d   Jack Grassa, Tony Graves, Cydney         Josephson, Editor and Mike Bessire,         Jim Eigo/Jazz Promo Services, Orig-
like to begin the New Year by thank-      Halpin, Jonah Hanlon, Takako Hark-       Art Director of Jersey Jazz; NJJS’s         inal Vinyl Records, James Pansulla,
ing my fellow Board members for           ness, John Herr, John Hester, Ayano      Advisory Committee members Don              Metuchen Arts Council/Jazz, Arbors
their support and dedication to the       Hisa, Kasia Idzkowska, Guinera Ka-       Braden, Mariel Bildsten, Ted Chubb,         Records, Live at Night/SOPAC, Jazzda-
continued growth and development of       matova, Robert Kessler, Jeremy Kim,      Al Kuehn, and Jason Olaine; Brett           gen Tours, PM Records, Kean Univer-
NJJS. Sadly, we say goodbye to Dave       Cathy LaFerer, Shervin Lainez, Chris     Messenger and staff/Morris Muse-            sity, George H. Buck Jazz Foundation,
Dilzell who has generously served         Lee, Andrew Lepley, Russell Malone,      um; Jazz House Kids; Metuchen Arts          North Carolina Jazz Festival, Chris
NJJS as Treasurer, but has need           Keith Major, Connie Norkin, Mike         Council/Jazz; and Nan Hughes Poole.         DeVito Quintet, Smooth Jazz New Jer-
to resign. We thank him for all he’s      Oria, Susan Peterson, Sara Pettinella,        Advertisers are the sustaining life    sey, Smooth Jazz NJ/Maplewood Divi-
done to support and promote NJJS.         Braden Piper, Olga Rainka, Lynn Red-     force for Jersey Jazz, as membership        sion of Arts & Culture, The Jazz Club
    I’d also like to acknowledge and      mile, Todd Rosenberg, Taili Song Roth,   fees alone are insufficient to finance a    of Sarasota/Sarasota Jazz Festival.
thank all of the Jersey Jazz Contrib-     Agnes Ruiz, Casey Ryan, Mitchell         publication of this caliber. Thank you          With much appreciation, I’d like
uting Editors: Noal Cohen, Bill Crow,     Seidel, Gordon Tunison, Pablo Valle,     to all who advertised this past year, and   to acknowledge our grantors: Morris
Schaen Fox, Will Friedwald, Arnie         Carter Wade, Anna Webber, Harri-         to the many who have done so year af-       Arts—through the New Jersey State
Goodman, Lin Josephson, Joe Lang,         son Weinstein, Aaron Winters, Na-        ter year. The Board and I are so grateful   Council on the Arts/Department of
Alex Levin, Dan Morgenstern, Mit-         than West, Bill Westmoreland, Janis      for your continued patronage, in spite      State, a Partner Agency of the Nation-
chell Seidel, and Jay Sweet; and con-     Wilkins, and Anna Yatskevich whose       of what must have been an incredibly        al Endowment of the Arts—whose
tributing photographers: John Abbott,     volunteerism and expertise have filled   challenging year as well for all of you:    support helped fund this year’s Vir-
Anthony Alvarez, Lucas Asensi, Gary       these journal pages this past year.      The Jazz Cruise, Morris Museum/Jazz         tual Socials and who have generously
Ashley, Joseph Berg, Andrew Bogard,           With much gratitude I’d like to      on the Back Deck, William Paterson          committed to continued funding in
Martin Cohen, Richard Conde, Jessica      thank the following people and or-       University, Mark Clemente, JazzFest         2022; Investors Bank—whose support

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ALL THAT’S JAZZ

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helped fund the “Celebrating Lionel     cember and we need YOU to join              f you haven’t already contributed      Department for further information.
Hampton’s Life and Music” program;      with us in this collaborative effort.       to this annual campaign, please            You can also make a tax-efficient
and the Rea Charitable Trust and            In a year that continued to pres-       consider a generous tax-deduct-        gift from your IRA today! Qualified
the Summit Area Public Founda-          ent physical and very real financial    ible gift today. Please help NJJS          Charitable Distributions (QCDs), also
tion—whose support is dedicated to      challenges, through membership           continue its performance and educa-       known as IRA Charitable Rollovers,
the funding of Generations of Jazz/     dues and the generosity of donors       tional initiatives by donating anytime     are the savviest way for individuals
Educational programing. (Please         like yourself, NJJS seamlessly con-      online at www.njjs.org. There’s a red     age 70 or older to use their IRAs to
note: All 2021 Virtual Socials and      verted our award-winning maga-          “Make a Donation” button conve-            maximize their charitable giving.
Education Series presentations can be   zine Jersey Jazz to a digital online     niently located on our home page for      Your IRA donation is a generous way
enjoyed anytime for free on the New     and download-able publication,           easy giving. We process our payments      to fulfill your required minimum dis-
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and thank our NJJS members and          age, Facebook page and YouTube           click on the yellow donate button and     on taxes while helping NJJS fulfill its
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I’ve inadvertently omitted anyone.      reach campaign for better commu-        impact of your gift? Many of you work           members, we thank you for all
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EDITOR’S CHOICE
BY SA NFO RD JOS EPHSON

Evan Sherman’s Sidewalkin’:                                                           the musicians depended solely on
                                                                                      contributions from the street audi-
                                                                                                                                    The album has an Art Blakey
                                                                                                                                feel about it, and Sherman point-
Shaped on the Streets of New York                                                     ence. “Jerry said, ‘Let’s see if we can   ed out that it was recorded in the
                                                                                      get a trumpet player.’” They added        same room where many of the Jazz
                                                                                      trumpeter Joe Magnarelli, and by the      Messengers recordings were made.
                                                                                      fall people were asking, “Why don’t       Among the eight tracks are Charlie

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      arly in 2020, drummer Evan           ers. “He wanted to know if I could         you guys have a CD to sell?” So, in       Parker’s “Chasin’ The Bird”, Sam
      Sherman told me he was making        play in front of a fruit stand on 207th    November, they went to the famous         Jones’ “One for Amos”, Weldon orig-
      plans for his first album (‘Rising   St. and Broadway.” Since the other         Rudy Van Gelder Studio in Engle-          inals “Capuchin Swing” and “The
 Star’, Jersey Jazz, March/April 2020).    musicians were pianist Davis Whit-         wood, NJ, and recorded Sidewalkin’.       Henry Hustle”, and Wonsey’s “The
“People have been asking me,” he said,     field, trumpeter Josh Evans, and                Fortuitously, NBC’s The Today        Sherman Stroll”, inspired by the way
“‘When are you going to record?’”          saxophonist Stacy Dillard, Sherman         Show had discovered Sherman’s             Sherman walks. The one standard
     On January 7, Sherman will            said, ‘yes’. That was the beginning of a   band and aired a segment on it in         is Edward Redding’s “The End of a
 have a CD release party at New York       summer of street music at places like      December 2020 that also included a        Love Affair”. Said Sherman: “Jerry
 City’s The Django for his self-pro-       Terremoto Coffee on West 15th Street       guest appearance by Wynton Mar-           would often play that at the end of a
 duced album, Sidewalkin’. But it’s        in Chelsea and Good Enough to Eat,         salis. “I know that this music heals      set, because a set is like a love affair.”
 not the album he originally envi-         a comfort food restaurant at 85th and      me,” the 28-year-old Sherman told
 sioned. That was for his big band,        Columbus on the Upper West Side.           Today’s Hoda Kotb, “and, if it heals      :   The Django is located at
 but when the pandemic hit, all live            At the latter location, his band-     me, I think it could heal other people    2 Avenue of the Americas on the
 performances were canceled, and           mates were keyboardist Anthony             as well. I never dreamed I’d drag my      cellar level of the Roxy Hotel. The
 Sherman was stuck in his Har-             Wonsey, bassist Tyler Mitchell, and        drums up and down Columbus Av-            Evan Sherman Quintet performance
 lem apartment “going crazy.”              tenor saxophonist Jerry Weldon. “The       enue. Some of the great musicians         on January 7 is at 10 p.m. For
     Then, in June 2020, he received       restaurant paid us in the beginning,”      have a quote: ‘Take care of the music,    reservations, call (212) 519-6649.
 a phone call from bassist Ben Meign-      Sherman said, but after a few days,        and the music will take care of you.’”    Proof of vaccination is required.

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Dara Tucker                                                                               Reviewing her 2019 Watchman       lived in Switzerland and Nashville
Bringing Originality to Familiar Tunes                                               Music Group album, Oklahoma Rain,      before settling in New York City.
                                                                                     London Jazz News’ Peter Bacon wrote         Bacon pointed out that her singing
                                                                                     that Tucker “brings a fresh approach   style “mixes jazz and R&B ... and adds

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       ocalist Dara Tucker’s recent al-    her repertoire at the New Jersey          to jazz-inflected singing with a       tinges of gospel and country.” At times,
       bum, Dreams of Waking: Music        Jazz Society’s Virtual Social.            big sky atmosphere to the sound-       he said her tone reminded him “vague-
       for a Better World (Green Hill           Other jazz musicians, in addition    scapes she and her band create.”       ly of that other singer/songwriter with
Productions: 2021), featured tunes as-     to Chestnut, appearing on the album            Born in Tulsa, OK, to a fami-     Nashville connections, Mary Chapin
sociated with well-known singer/song-      include pianist Sullivan Fortner, bass-   ly of singers and ministers, Tucker    Carpenter ... The act of stretching from
writers such as Carole King and Stevie     ist Dezron Douglas, drummer Johna-        traveled across the United States,     jazz towards an Americana direction
Wonder and composers such as Burt          than Blake, saxophonist John Ellis,       performing with her family. She        shows greater potential for original-
Bacharach. According to Betsey Bell,       and trumpeter Giveton Gelin. Among                                               ity—no one else seems to be operat-
writing in the (UK) Jazz Journal, “The     additional song selections on Dreams                                             ing in this particularly territory.”
great subtlety in the arrangements         of Waking are James Taylor’s “Secret                                                  The January 29th Social will be
brings freshness to these already leg-     O’ Life”, Donny Hathaway’s “Some-                                                streamed on the njjs.org website as
endary tracks. Tucker achieves this        day We’ll All Be Free”, and Won-                                                 well as on the NJJS Facebook page
especially in her take on Burt Bacha-      der’s “You Haven’t Done Nothin’”.                                                and YouTube channel. There is no
rach’s ‘What the World Needs Now’.              As a composer, Tucker col-                                                  admission charge, but donations
It’s fleshed out with beautiful piano      laborated in 2019 with Keb Mo’ to                                                are welcome and appreciated.
flourishes from Cyrus Chestnut, who        write the title track for his Concord                                                 Funding for the NJJS Socials
is also very good on Tucker’s rendition    Jazz album, Oklahoma, which won                                                  has been made possible, in part, by
of Carole King’s ‘You’ve Got a Friend’.”   a Grammy Award in 2020 for Best                                                  Morris Arts through the New Jersey
      On January 29 at 7 p.m. Tuck-        Americana Album. One of her orig-                                                State Council on the Arts/Depart-
er will be singing selections from         inal compositions, “Do We Sleep?”,                                               ment of State, a partner agency of the
the album and other songs from             appears on Dreams of Waking.                                                     National Endowment for the Arts.

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BIG BAND IN THE SKY

Barry Harris: Mentor to Many
and Master of Bebop
“He Was a Talmudic Scholar of Bebop
 ... and a Swinging Socrates.”
BY SA NFO RD JOS EPH SON

W
        hen I interviewed alto saxo-      just one week short of his 92nd
        phonist Charles McPherson         birthday, at Palisades Medical
        in March 2020 (‘From Bebop        Center in North Bergen, NJ, from
to Ballet’, Jersey Jazz, May/June         complications due to Covid.
                                                                                  Barry Harris, right, with Charles McPherson, early 1990s
2020), he told me that, growing up in          Upon hearing of Harris’ death,
Detroit, one of his neighbors was the     McPherson posted a tribute on Face-
pianist Barry Harris. McPherson and       book. “As my first jazz teacher,” he    literature, art, music beyond jazz,            the virtuoso improvisations of Parker,
his friend, trumpeter Lonnie Hilly-       wrote, “Barry has been my mentor        philosophy, and so on ... His gener-           Gillespie, and Powell under a micro-
er, would occasionally sit in at the      and musical inspiration since I was     osity was enormous, and he helped              scope, discovering the musical gram-
nearby Blue Bird Inn jazz club. “We       15. From Barry, I learned not only      people on their own musical journey;           mar that makes bebop work—scales,
could play the melody,” McPherson         about music but about a multitude       this was deeply important to him.”             chords, chromatic passing tones.”
said, “but we couldn’t improvise          of subjects and concepts beyond             Npr.org’s Mark Stryker, on the day         Stryker, author of Jazz From Detroit
worth a damn. Barry Harris heard us       music and jazz. He stressed the im-     of Harris’ death, wrote that his pas-          (University of Michigan Press: 2019),
and said, ‘If you want, come by the       portance of being well-rounded as       sion for teaching, “grew out of an an-         added that Harris was able to chan-
house, and I’ll show you some things.’”   a person and to be knowledgeable        alytical mind and a lifelong quest for         nel “the language and spirit of bebop’s
    Harris died December 8, 2021,         about the world and many disciplines:   knowledge and improvement. He put              founding fathers through his own

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                         foxy wit, vivid harmonic imagination,      Adderley and eventually moved to
                         and distinctive rhythmic rumble ...        New York. He became friendly with
     Barry Harris
                         He was a Talmudic scholar of bebop;        the late Pannonica de Koenigswarter,
     at TD James
     Moody Jazz          a beacon of artistic integrity and         also known as the Jazz Baroness, and
     Festival in 2013.   generosity; and a swinging Socrates,       moved into her Weehawken, NJ, home
                         guiding students in a quest for truth,     in the ‘60s and lived there for the rest
                         beauty, and the hippest chords to play     of his life. Thelonius Monk also lived
                         on ‘Indiana’ and ‘Embraceable You’.”       there for the last 10 years of his life.
                              Born in Detroit on December               Harris’ most important albums,
                         15, 1929, Harris discovered jazz and       according to Stryker, were the trio
                         bebop when, at age 17, he heard a re-      recordings he made in the ‘60s
                         cording of Bud Powell’s “Webb City”        and ‘70s such as At the Jazz Work-
                         with saxophonist Sonny Stitt and           shop (Riverside: 1960), Chasin’ the
                         trumpeter Fats Navarro. In 1954, he        Bird (Riverside: 1962), and Live
                         succeeded Tommy Flanagan as the            in Tokyo (Xanadu: 1976). His best
                         house pianist at the Blue Bird Inn         solo recordings, Stryker said, were
                         (other members of the band included        The Bird of Red and Gold (Xanadu:
                         baritone saxophonist Pepper Adams          1979) and Solo (September: 1990).
                         and drummer Elvin Jones), and two              In addition to his recordings as a
                         years later, toured with drummer Max       leader, Harris was the pianist on the
                         Roach and recorded with trumpet-           classic Lee Morgan album, The Side-

                                                                                                               PHOTO BY TONY GRAV ES
                         ers Art Farmer and Thad Jones and          winder (Blue Note: 1964). Recalling
                         tenor saxophonist Hank Mobley.             The Sidewinder in a February 2020
                              Harris left Detroit in 1960 to tour   article, AllAboutJazz’s Greg Simmons
                         with alto saxophonist Cannonball           wrote that, “Barry Harris’ piano work

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throughout the album is a special          to the heart of what makes a melody.”
blend of technical proficiency with a          “Sir Harris,” wrote bassist Chris-
dollop of gut blues. On ‘Boy, What A       tian McBride, on Facebook, “was
Night,’ his solo draws inspiration from    one of the oak trees of bebop and
way back, with echoes of the barrel-       jazz education. Anyone who took the
house keyboards of James P. John-          time to listen to him and pay atten-
son or Jimmy Yancey, while remain-         tion came away a better musician.”
ing au courant of the early sixties. His   Added pianist Monty Alexander,
playing catches modernism with note-       also on Facebook: “His guidance to
worthy respect for his predecessors.”      young musicians is irreplaceable. He
      Jazz critic (and Jersey Jazz col-    helped so many young musicians to
umnist) Dan Morgenstern once de-           find a better path for themselves.”
scribed Harris as,“one of the very few          Harris was named a National En-
pianists who never allow the fingers to    dowment for the Arts Jazz Master in
fill in when the mind falters. There are   1989 and received an honorary doc-
no cliched runs in his book.” Pianist      torate from Northwestern University
Michael Weiss, one of many pianists        in 1995. His last public appearance,
mentored by Harris, told Stryker that      in November 2021, was at a concert
Harris, “orchestrated his melodies         celebrating NEA Jazz Masters at
and constructed his improvisations in      Flushing Town Hall in Queens, NY.
a lyrical, unhurried and free-flowing           He is survived by his daugh-
manner. His codification of the be-        ter, Carol Geyer and her husband,
bop language stands apart from most        Keith, who live in Metro Detroit.
of the trite attempts at jazz theory in
the academic world, because it goes        :             See more Big Band on p. 35

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JAZZ HISTORY

Celebrating the Musical ‘Magic’ of
Saxophonist/Flutist Frank Wess
“He Idolized Johnny Hodges, and I Think You
 Can Hear That in His Tenor Playing.”
BY NOAL CO HEN

H
     is colleagues called Frank Wess     early 1950s, helping secure its rightful
    “Magic,” an appropriate sobri-       place in modern jazz. He would also
     quet in view of the exceptionally   prove himself to be an accomplished
consistent artistry and professional-    composer, arranger, teacher, and
ism he brought to every project with     mentor to many aspiring musicians.
which he was involved throughout a           Frank Wess was born on January
career spanning 70 years. His saxo-      4, 1922, in Kansas City, MO, so he
phone approach was lyrical, soulful,     would have turned 100 on January 4,
swinging and a unique, genre-defying     2022. He began his musical training
blend of influences including Johnny     after the family moved to Sapulpa,
Hodges, Lester Young, Ben Webster,       OK, in 1932. Another move brought
and Benny Carter, yet informed by        him to Washington, DC in 1935 where

                                                                                                                      PHOTO BY TONY GRAV ES
bebop harmonies. Assuming the flute      he graduated from Dunbar High
mantle from Wayman Carver of the         School in 1937. The orchestra teach-
1930s Chick Webb orchestra, Wess         er at Dunbar was Henry Grant (who
was a pioneer on the instrument in the   had earlier taught Duke Ellington)

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                                        “
who provided important instruc-                                                                                             indignities. He returned to Washing-

                                        I WENT FROM BASIE TO BROADWAY
tion in theory and composition as                                                                                           ton and enrolled at the Modern School
well as encouragement. A classmate                                                                                          of Music as a flute major, earning a

                                                     AND NEVER MISSED A PAYDAY.”
at Dunbar was pianist Billy Taylor.                                                                                         Bachelor of Music degree in 1953.
    Although initially enrolling at                                                                                              Based on Eckstine’s recommen-
Howard University with the inten-                                                                                           dation, Count Basie had been trying
tion of attending dental school, Wess                                                                                       to get Wess to join his band for some
switched to the school’s music con-                                                                                         time, but the saxophonist refused un-
servatory where he spent a year. By     member of the U.S. Army Band serv-        Billy Eckstine, the first big band to     til 1953 when the money Basie offered
this time, still in his teens, he was   ing as Assistant Bandleader and clar-     play the new music known as bebop.        was tempting as was the opportunity
already playing professionally in       inet soloist (an instrument he de-        During Wess’ tenure (on tenor saxo-       for greater exposure. The “New Tes-
Washington with a youth band led by     spised). The ensemble was stationed       phone), the ensemble included some        tament” version of the Basie band,
pianist John Malachi that rehearsed     in Africa and performed in Dakar,         of the new genre’s most important         with a host of fine soloists, many of
at the Jungle Inn. Jelly Roll Morton    Casablanca, Monrovia, Tlemcen ,and        innovators including trumpeters Fats      whom Wess, himself had recruited,
lived above the club and would attend   Algiers. He also led a 17-piece band      Navarro, Miles Davis and Howard           was a swinging powerhouse and a
the rehearsals giving Wess the oppor-   that accompanied Josephine Baker on       McGhee, saxophonists Dexter Gor-          commercial as well as artistic success.
tunity to meet the jazz legend. Wess    concert tours for Allied troops. Per-     don, Gene Ammons and Leo Parker,          Besides Wess on flute, alto and tenor
also worked dances at the Lincoln       forming music in a variety of styles      bassist Tommy Potter, and drummer         saxophones, the ensemble includ-
Colonnade and joined the pit band at    including vaudeville, classical and       Art Blakey. Wess described Ecks-          ed Joe Newman, Thad Jones, Sonny
the Howard Theater. With Blanche        marching band, his World War II ex-       tine as the “godfather of bebop.”         Cohn and Snooky Young on trumpet,
Calloway, he toured Massachusetts       perience was invaluable preparation           After Eckstine disbanded in 1947,     Al Grey, Henry Coker, Bill Hughes and
where he encountered stars-to-be        for the long and varied career to come.   Wess worked with the orchestras of        Benny Powell on trombone, Marshall
including guitarist Irving Ashby           Wess returned to Washington            Eddie Heywood, Lucky Millinder and        Royal, Ernie Wilkins, Frank Foster,
and saxophonist Paul Gonsalves.         after the war and soon joined the         Bullmoose Jackson, but, by 1949, had      Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis, Eric Dixon,
    From 1941-1945, Wess was a          legendary orchestra led by vocalist       tired of the road with its stresses and   Billy Mitchell and Charlie Fowlkes

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                                             on saxophones, Eddie Jones on bass,       enon that helped give the “New Tes-
                                             Freddie Green on guitar, Sonny Payne      tament” band its unique character.
                                             on drums and vocalist Joe Williams.           After 11 years, Wess left Basie
                                                Many of the finest arrangers of        in 1964 to settle in New York City
                                             the period contributed to Basie’s rep-    where his reputation preceded him
                                             ertoire including Neal Hefti, Ernie       and work in a variety of settings
                                            Wilkins, Benny Carter and Quincy           awaited. As he put it, “I went from
                                             Jones. From within the band, Thad         Basie to Broadway and never missed
                                             Jones, Frank Foster, Joe Newman and       a payday!” He played in the pit bands
                                            Wess, himself (“Yesterdays,” “Segue        of hit shows including Golden Boy,
                                             in C,” “Blue on Blue,” “Swingin’ at the   Chicago, Annie, and Sugar Babies. On
                                            Waldorf,” “Summer Frost,” “Pepper-         television, he could be heard on The
                                             mint Pipes”) also wrote arrangements.     Dick Cavett Show, The David Frost
                                                Tenor saxophone and flute were         Show, and The Sammy Davis Show
                                             always Wess’s preferred instruments,      as well as many specials and tele-
                                             but in 1957, he switched to alto sax in   thons. He is also present on a num-
                                             order to accommodate the addition         ber of film soundtracks and jingles.

                                                                                                                               PHOTO COU RT ESY O F WILL IAM PATERSON
                                             of Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis. Although            As a sideman in great demand,
                                             there aren’t many examples of Wess’       Wess backed instrumentalists and
                                             alto sax solos with Basie, they can be    vocalists representing many gener-
                                             heard on the recordings of “Fantail,”     ations and styles. His discography
                 Frank Wess performing      “A Square at the Roundtable,” “Rock        reveals that between 1964 and 2011,
               with the William Paterson     a Bye Basie” and “Backwater Blues.”       he participated in sessions with
                  Jazz Orchestra in 2011.
                                             Actually, most of his solos during his    around 150 different artists or en-
                                             Basie tenure were on flute, a phenom-     sembles, from Benny Carter to Jaco

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Pastorius and from Annie Ross to          between the two Franks on tenor sax    flute ensemble with Holly Hofmann          us an opportunity to reflect on and
Diana Ross. Some of the most nota-        was striking with Foster exhibiting    and Ali Ryerson, and a big band co-        enjoy the “magic” he wove for so long.
ble of these are recordings with The      a bigger sound and more aggres-        led with trumpeter Harry Edison.              Here are some thoughts about
Toshiko Akiyoshi Orchestra, Clark         sive approach but Wess holding his         In his later years, Wess often fa-     Frank Wess taken from recent inter-
Terry’s Big Bad Band, Dameronia,          own with a more lyrical and mea-       vored mid-sized ensembles of eight         views with musicians that knew him:
and The Gerald Wilson Orchestra.          sured but equally engaging manner.     or nine pieces. A recording by one
    As a leader and co-leader, his ear-       Wess was involved in a number      of these, Tryin’ to Make My Blues          Scott Robinson _ “Johnny Hodges
ly sessions for the Commodore and         of successful musical partnerships     Turn Green (Concord Jazz: 1993) is         loomed very large with him. [He] had
Savoy record labels often involved his    and collaborations including The       worthy of mention since the music          one of Hodges’ altos. He had a beautiful,
Basie bandmates of the 1950s, espe-       New York Jazz Quartet comprised        on it will be reprised as part of a Cen-   beautiful French Dolnet alto. I guess it
cially Frank Foster with whom he          of himself, Sir Roland Hanna on pia-   tennial celebration. (See page 19)         was marked Vito but made by Dolnet, if
would later record the albums Two         no, George Mraz on bass, and drum-         Wess died of a heart attack in 2013,   I understand correctly. It was similar
for the Blues (Pablo Records: 1983)       mer Ben Riley; a quintet co-led with   at the age of 91. He viewed a jazz solo    to the tenor that Don Byas played. It
and Frankly Speaking (Concord Re-         the under-appreciated trumpeter        as an essay, the telling of an artist’s    had the snake on the neck with jew-
cords: 1984). The stylistic contrast      Johnny Coles; Flutology, a three-      individual story in his or her own         els, ruby eyes looking at you while you
                                                                                 way. It was a concept he maintained        played. The octave key was built in the
                                                                                 throughout his career. Reflective of       form of a snake and it was an astonish-

“
                                                                                 his many achievements, he received         ing horn with Johnny Hodges’ name

FRANK WAS THE FLUTE CAT
                                                                                 the NEA Jazz Master Award in 2007          engraved on it—beautiful engraving
                                                                                 and,in 2010, was honored at an All         on every single key—very unusual key

               WAY BACK IN THE BEGINNING.”
                                                                                 Nite Soul event at St. Peter’s Church      system with lots of extra stuff. I toured
                                                                                 in New York City where in his intro-       with Frank when he had that horn. It
                                                                                 duction, historian Phil Schaap called      was really something. So he idolized
                                                                                 him “the most important living jazz        Johnny Hodges, and I think you can
                                                                                 musician.” Wess’ centennial provides       hear that in his tenor playing also.”

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                                       Champion Fulton _ “[He] really was,                                                  liever in, and Frank Wess had a spir-
                                       at least with me and I think in general                                              it. To me, it’s not about what Frank
    FRANK WESS                         in his life, really focused on swing-                                                Wess sounded like or what he talked

    TRIBUTES:                          ing and rhythm. And we would talk
                                       a lot about that, like what it felt like
                                                                                                                            about. The important thing I got from
                                                                                                                            Frank Wess was what he felt like!
                                       to be in the Basie band, what that                                                   He’s been dead awhile but I can still
    ON JANUARY 9TH at New
                                       kind of rhythm felt like and how they                                                feel Frank Wess all up in my bones.”
    York’s Birdland Theater,
                                       achieved it. I remember him talking
    multi-instrumentalist
                                       to me about the importance of patting                                                Dotti Anita Taylor _ “He was fabu-
    Scott Robinson will lead a
                                       your foot when you’re playing which                                                  lous as a teacher. I speak very highly
    tribute to Frank Wess with
                                       is something no one talks about. Actu-                                               of how he was as a teacher because
    a quartet featuring pianist
                                       ally, I spent three years in jazz college   ago—there were certain role models       the flute, I will say, is not the easi-
    Helen Sung. Robinson will
                                       and nobody ever talked about that to        but the goal, man, was to have your      est instrument to learn how to play,
    perform on Wess’ own bass
                                       me. But that was one of the first things    own voice. And Frank’s ace in the hole   number one. And through different
    flute. On January 19th and
                                       Frank talked about and when to pat on       was that he was one of the pioneers of   things that he would say to me he
    20th at Dizzy’s Club and
                                       quarter notes, what tempos and when         jazz flute. So that’s pretty much one    enabled me to not only get a sound
    January 22nd at the Mohonk
                                       to pat half notes, when to pat whole        major, major factor, that Frank was      out of the flute but to develop a really
    Mountain House in New
                                       notes. He was the master in my opin-        the flute cat way back in the begin-     good sound out of it. I say that in all
    Paltz, NY, he will lead an octet
                                       ion, one of the masters of knowing          ning. There were cats before that, but   humility in that when I get comments
    including trombonist Steve
                                       how to make a set list, like knowing        Frank was one of the first. When he      about how I play, one comment that
    Turre, saxophonist/flutist Bill
                                       which tunes and which tempos and            was with Basie he played tenor and       is made lots of times is the tone that

                                                                                                                                                                       PHOTO BY TONY GRAV ES
    Easley, and drummer Dennis
                                       which keys should go in which order.”       alto, but I’ve always been “bisaxual”    I get, the sound I get out of the flute.
    Mackrel, all of whom worked
                                                                                   myself. What made Frank Wess Frank       And I attribute it to what he was able
    and recorded with Wess.
                                       Bill Easley _ “Frank is a unique cat.       Wess was his spirit! That human spir-    to tell me to do so that I could achieve
                                       All the guys from those generations         it is something that I’m a true be-      a beautiful sound out of the flute.”

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The
LARRY FULLER
    TRIO
THE BICKFORD THEATRE
       Morristown, NJ

    Sunday, March 27                 Larry Fuller, piano
            2pm
                                    Hassan Shakur, bass
tickets: morrismuseum.org/jazz   Jason Tiemann, drums
JAZZ AT KEAN STAGE

                                 The Branford Marsalis Quartet:
                                                                                         T
                                                                                               he Branford Marsalis Quartet
                                                                                               has been together for three de-
                             Three Decades of Challenging Music                                cades. The secret to its longev-
                     “Unrelenting Intensity—Jazz Used to Have That, and It Got Away.”    ity? “I challenge them and pay them
                                                                                         well,” said Marsalis, “but ‘challenge’
                                                               BY SANFORD JOS E P HSON
                                                                                         is the most important part. The guys
                                                                                         know we’re going to represent a high
                                                                                         level musically. We’re trying to play
                                                                                         jazz. We’re not trying to use jazz as a
                                                                                         vehicle for our improvisational tech-
                                                                                         nique. And, we enjoy each other’s
                                                                                         company. We like playing dress up.”
                                                                                              The other members of the quartet
                                                                                         are pianist Joey Calderazzo, bassist
                                                                                         Eric Revis, and drummer Justin Faulk-
                                                                                         ner. The quartet’s last album, The Se-
                                                                                         cret Between the Shadow and the Soul
                                                                                         (Okeh/Sony), was released in January
                                                                                         2019 to enthusiastic reviews. Down-
                                                                                         Beat’s Ed Enright wrote that the quar-
                                                                                         tet, “succeeds in its relentless pursuit
                                                                                         of musical sophistication, cohesive-
                                                                                         ness, and inclusiveness. Clearly, these
                                                                                         long-loyal bandmates have reached a
                                                                                         new plateau together.” The Guardian’s

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Dave Gelly pointed out that, “over the
years, the quartet has developed a kind
                                             band or the orchestra. I’m a benev-
                                             olent dictator. I’m not stupid, so I’m      “
                                                                                         MARSALIS OPERATES WITH
                                                                                                              A ‘SIDEMAN’S MENTALITY’.”
 of group mind.” Enright added that          going to pick the best song regardless
Marsalis, “never has sounded better          of who writes it. If it’s my guys, great.
 on tenor and soprano saxophones.”           If it’s somebody else, great. I’m not
     At 3 p.m. on Sunday, January 30,        interested in just playing my songs
the quartet will appear at Kean Stage in     or using the band as a vehicle to talk          Earlier this year, Marsalis received   lette Parker, as a member of the
the Eugene G. Wilkins Theatre on the         about me. I just want to get as many        acclaim for composing the soundtrack       Ikettes in the Ike & Tina Turner Revue.
 campus of Kean University in Union,         great songs as possible. Joey writes        on the Netflix movie, Ma Rainey’s Black    In the ‘70s, she sang in the band, Max-
NJ. The repertoire will be challenging       great songs, and Revis writes great         Bottom. In planning for the movie, Mar-     ayn, with her then-husband, Andre
 but definitely not predictable. “We         songs; and they’re coming from com-         salis recalled that the director, George   Lewis. According to Marsalis, Lewis,
 have a big library,” Marsalis said. “We     pletely different stylistic points.”        Wolfe, “wanted to find a singer who        “had the ability to deliver the music
 have the advantage of not being bur-                                                    sounded like Ma Rainey. I told him that    with an emotional immediacy that
 dened by popularity. We will play what-                                                 no one’s sung like her for 100 years. If   was required. So, I just went with my
 ever we want, depending on the audi-                                                    George could have found somebody who        gut, called her up, and she said, ‘yes’.
 ence, how sophisticated we feel the                                                     sings like Ma Rainey, he would have        And, it all went from there.” With the
 audience is. We have a lot of variables.”                                               got her, but I knew he wouldn’t. I was      exception of one song, “These Dogs
     Only one of the five original com-                                                  in Australia, playing with an Australian    of Mine”, Lewis was the singing voice
 positions on The Secret Between the                                                     chamber orchestra, when I got the job. I   for actress Viola Davis in the movie.
 Shadow and the Soul was written by                                                      was looking at different people, taking         As previously reported, (“Un-
Marsalis. Two were composed by                                                           recommendations, so I called Bruce          derstanding the Real Meaning of the
 Calderazzo and two by Revis. As a                                                       Hornsby and said, ‘Hey, man, I need a      Blues”, Jersey Jazz, February 2021),
 bandleader, Marsalis operates with a                                                    singer.’ He said, ‘Call Maxayn Lewis.’     Marsalis selected trumpeter Chuck
“sideman’s mentality. It’s never about                                                       Lewis began her career in the          Findlay to coach the late Chadwick
 me. It’s always about playing with the                                                  1960s, under her birth name of Pau-        Boseman so that he would look like

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 he was really playing the trumpet.                                                   Brown, Otis Redding, Jackie Wilson,          listening to that advice, and Coltrane
“Chuck,” Marsalis said, “was per-                                                     Ike & Tina Turner—unrelenting inten-         certainly did not listen to that advice.”
 fect. He played with Doc Severinsen                                                  sity. Jazz used to have that, and it got          Along with his brother, trum-
in The Tonight Show band.” Marsa-                                                     away. It shifted away from group play       peter Wynton, Marsalis played ear-
 lis, who led The Tonight Show band                                                   to a more individual improvisation.          ly in his career with Art Blakey’s
 from 1992-1995, emphasized that                                                          “You have people using Coltrane         Jazz Messengers. Blakey, he said,
Findlay is, “a studio musician. He’s a                                                as an inspiration,” he continued, “but      “taught me how to be a bandlead-
jazz guy. When I was talking to Chad-                                                 they aren’t able to deliver with the         er. I learned what the pulse of jazz
wick about a specific thing, he would                                                 same kind of sound and intensity he         is, the discipline of playing jazz. He
 say, ‘That’s the same thing Chuck           create ways to solve those problems.     had. So, the music kind of became dis-       said jazz is about intensity, inten-
 said.’” The actual trumpeter, playing       Sean’s that kind of guy. I knew he’d     connected. I like Coltrane for a million     sity, intensity, even on the ballads.”
 offscreen, was Wendell Brunious.            play that ‘20s music with the prop-      reasons that I can’t speak of briefly. He         Who are his other heroes? “Jelly
      To provide the piano music for ac-     er technique and the proper spirit.”     had a strong understanding of who           Roll Morton, Sidney Bechet, Louis
tor Glynn Turman, portraying the fic-             A great admirer of the legend-      he was. He made musical decisions           Armstrong, Charlie Parker, Ornette
tional pianist, Toledo, Marsalis chose       ary tenor saxophonist John Coltrane,     based on moving himself forward.             Coleman, Dexter Gordon, Charlie
the young keyboardist Sean Mason             Marsalis said that, in his own play-     Where most musicians who invented           Mingus’ band, Miles Davis had two
(Jersey Jazz “Rising Star”, October          ing, “I’m more of a Sonny Rollins        something like ‘Giant Steps’ would           great bands, Eric Dolphy. There’s just
2021). “Sean,” he said, “is an extraor-      guy.” But the importance of Coltrane,    have simply stayed there, he didn’t.         so many people.”
 dinary talent. He has an extraordinary      he explained, “is the level of inten-        “When Illinois Jacquet gave me
 amount of discipline. Musicians need        sity that his band played with. The      music lessons,” Marsalis recalled, “he      :   The Kean University campus is
to be able to fix themselves. Their ears     sound of that band was a huge source     said, ‘Find two or three things that are    located at 1000 Morris Ave. in Union,
 need to be good enough so they can          of inspiration to me. That’s the kind    yours and just stick with it. Everybody     NJ. For tickets or information, log
 recognize weaknesses in their play. Or,     of band that I wanted. I grew up play-   knows it’s you.’ If I was going to do       onto kean.universitytickets.com or call
if you point out a weakness in their         ing R&B. The best examples of R&B,       that, I would have stayed on the R&B        (908) 737-7469. Masks will be required,
 playing, a bell goes off in their head to   particularly in the ‘60s, were James     side where the pay’s better. I won’t be     regardless of vaccination status.

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               A Jersey Jazz Interview with
                    Marcus McLaurine
                                         BY SCHAE N FOX

               M
                         arcus McLaurine has become one of the most in-demand
                         bassists in jazz. Born in Omaha, NE, he studied music at
                         the University of Nebraska. Hoping to eventually get to New
                        York, he enlisted in the Air Force in 1976 and got stationed at
               McGuire Air Force Base (now Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst)
               in Burlington County, NJ. McLaurine spent three decades in bands
               led by the late trumpeter Clark Terry and has appeared with a who’s
               who of jazz legends including Dizzy Gillespie, James Moody, and
               Lou Donaldson. He is currently an Adjunct Professor in the Jazz
               Studies program at William Paterson University in Wayne, NJ.

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JJ   How long were you stationed         band who were into jazz asked me if      complete stranger came up to me           JJ   How did you get to work
at McGuire Air Force Base?               I want to go and hang out with them.     said, “Give me your phone number.         with Melba Liston?
DK Four years. It was actually one       There was a jazz club in Trenton        A good friend of mine is a musi-           DK I only had been in New York a
of the best moves I’ve ever made         and they said, “Richie Cole is play-     cian, and you guys might get along.”      couple of months when Clifford got
in my life, because it was like go-      ing tonight.” We went, and the band          I gave him my number and about        a gig up in Harlem. On the break, he
ing to school. The only band that I      sounded great. After the band was        a week later, he called and said, “My     said, “Melba Liston is here and she
didn’t play in was a classical quar-     finished, I spoke to the bass player.    friend is in town. Why don’t you          wants to meet us.” I didn’t know
tet. I played in every other band: the   He said, “Would you like to play my      come over? My wife is cooking din-        who Melba Liston was at that time.
marching band, the jazz big band,        bass?” I was playing his bass, and a    ner, and we can have a jam session.”       Erica Lindsay, a great tenor play-
the concert band, a small jazz com-                                              That was Clifford. He had been on the      er, and Francesca Tanksley, a great
bo, and I actually led the rock band                                             road. We just clicked. He said, “Give      piano player, were with Melba, and
for a while. It was a good experience,                                           me your number. I might have some-         she said, “I really enjoy your play-

                                         “
because it made me read a lot, and I                                             thing for you.” He called me about         ing, would you like to join my band?”

                                         I HAD THE
got my reading chops tightened up.                                                like a week and a half later and said,    I said, “Of course,” and that’s how
                                                                                 “I have a gig in Manhattan this Fri-       I joined. (Liston was a pioneering
JJ  Is that when you got to know                                                  day. There’s only one catch, the gig      female trombonist and arranger
the trombonist Clifford Adams?
DK Clifford is actually the reason       GOOD FORTUNE                             starts at 3 a.m.” At that time, I was
                                                                                 just so excited to play in Manhattan. I
                                                                                                                            and was named an NEA Jazz Mas-
                                                                                                                            ter in 1987. She died in 1999).
why I’m in New York. When I was
in the Air Force band, I would usu-      TO WORK WITH                             didn’t care. So, we played the gig, and
                                                                                 I actually met (saxophonist) Steve         JJ What are your best
                                                                                                                            memories of her?

                                         CLARK (TERRY)
ally come home after rehearsal and                                                Coleman that night. When I got out
practice about three hours every                                                  of the military, Clifford said, “You      DK She was just Melba, just very

                                         FOR 30 YEARS.”
night just to get my chops up, be-                                               need to stay in New York. New York         calm and mellow, just the real thing.
cause I was going to make a career                                               needs bass players.” I said, “Okay, I’ll   She was well respected in the jazz
out of it. One night two guys in the                                              stay until my money runs out again.”      community, and for good reason. Mel-

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ba was way ahead of the time, be-        Clark. He called and said ‘This is
cause she was a great musician, but      Clark Terry.’ My first reaction was,
she was also a fantastic arranger. She   ‘Yeah, right!’ He said, ‘No, this is
used to do all those arrangements        Clark Terry. And I have two gigs. I
for Dizzy’s band, and she had a real      got a week at the Blue Note and I
reputation as a top flight arranger.      got a week up in Quebec City, Can-
                                          ada. Can you make it?’ I said, ‘Yeah,
JJ   How long were you with her          I can do it.’ He said, ‘Okay, I’ll see
 before you joined Clark Terry?          you next week.’ Click, he hung up.
 DK I was with Melba that whole                I was basically terrified as I would
year. We actually did Carnegie Hall,      do the gig cold, not knowing what we
                                                                                      McLaurine with Clark Terry
the Kool Jazz Festival, and sever-       were going to play. I had heard Clark
 al more festivals. Unfortunately, I     for the first time back in 1972. I was
 didn’t get to record with her, but       still living in Omaha, and doing a gig      JJ   Did Melba realize that          JJ  On average how much
 someone posted a little video clip we   with the saxophone player Preston            she might lose you when she          of the year would you be
 did. I just saw it a few months ago.    Love at the University of Nebraska.          recommended you to Clark Terry?      with Clark Terry?
     Clark was looking for a bass        We went to the Student Union and it          DK Probably, because we weren’t      DK They would vary. Sometimes we
player. Clark and Melba were very        was packed because it was Clark Ter-         working that much, and she knew      would be on the road a lot, but Clark
tight because they worked togeth-        ry. On drums was Victor Lewis, one           that would be a great opportuni-     would spend much of the summer
 er in Dizzy’s band. Matter of fact,      of the top drummers in New York.            ty for me. I was totally indebted    months in Europe. During that time,
when we did Carnegie Hall, Dizzy         He was a student at the University at        to Melba for giving me that op-      he wouldn’t use the band; he’d use guys
 sat in with the band. So, she said,     that time, Actually, that was the first      portunity, because she didn’t have   who were living over there. But when
‘Call my bass player Marcus Mc-          time I ever heard ‘Mumbles’. It was          to. That recommendation changed      he was home, like during the rest of
Laurine.’ That’s how I got to be with     so hilarious my face was hurting.           the whole direction of my life.      the year, he had a pretty busy schedule.

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JJ   What are your best                    He had on the red leather jumpsuit,         pianist. They did an excellent job on      JJ   What was that like?
memories of being with Clark?              the glasses and hair. And, we just sat      that film. The drummer, Alan Hicks,        DK The head guy at Pixar, Peter
DK I had the good fortune to work          there. What do you say to this guy—“I       who put that film together, was a          Docter, called and said, “We’d like to
with Clark for 30 years. I’ve told this     dug Kind of Blue?” Clark got close,        student at William Paterson. He’s          spend some time with you. We’ll be
story many times. We were going to          saw Miles standing there, and yelled       from Australia and was one of my           coming out and maybe have lunch
do a tour in Europe and had landed          out “Inky!” Now Clark was probably         students for a couple of semesters.        with you.” So about eight of them
at Charles de Gaulle Airport in Par-        one of the few people on the planet        He became close to Clark because           came, and we just hung out and talk-
is. The promoters had not arrived          who could get away with calling Miles       he was so far away from home. Clark        ed. Then they invited my wife and
yet, and Clark said, “I’m going to         “Inky” because he was so dark. They         became like a surrogate father.            me to hang out at the Vanguard. I
get a croissant and some tea. I’ll be       hugged and you could see the love               Alan went back to Australia,          think they just wanted to get a sense
right back.” So, we were sitting there     that these guys had for each other. It      where he had a friend who was into         of what it’s like being at a jazz club in
with the luggage, and Miles walks          was a pretty intense moment to wit-         filming. They decided to film Clark.       New York and see what musicians do.
up. That’s like God walking up. He          ness. That’s one of my favorite stories.   They came back, and created this                They asked different things: How
said, “Where’s Clark?” For some rea-                                                   whole story of Justin and Clark’s          would musicians act in a particular
son, he knew Clark was going to be         JJ What do you think of the                 relationship. Once they got the film       situation, or what would they wear, or
there. We told him, “He went to get a      documentary Keep on Keepin’ On?             off the ground, Quincy Jones got in-       whether a saxophone player would use
croissant. He’ll just be right back.” He   DK Oh, that’s a great tribute to Clark      volved and got it to the next level. So,   a strap. That’s a big deal if you don’t
just stood there and crossed his arms.     and Justin Kauflin, the young blind         Alan also did Quincy Jones’ biogra-        know if they are supposed to use the
                                                                                       phy with Quincy’s daughter Rashi-          strap or not. They also just wanted to

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                                                                                       da. Just as a footnote, Alan Hicks         get an idea of how musicians live. They

CLAUDIO WAS A SWEETHEART
                                                                                       recommended me to be a musical             actually got a chance to experience
                                                                                       consultant to the film Soul. If you        what it was like to be in New York. Lat-

                               AND A TOTAL MASTER.”
                                                                                       look at the credits, at the very end,      er for the first screening, they flew me
                                                                                       you’ll see I’m listed with Herbie Han-     out to California to the Pixar studios. I
                                                                                       cock and Teri Lynne Carrington.            actually got to meet Herbie Hancock

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for the first time, and meeting Her-                                                    JJ  Please tell me about your
bie was a highlight. I hadn’t seen Teri                                                 connection to Claudio Roditi
Lynne in something like 25 years. She                                                   and the Trilateral Project.
used to work with Clark’s band when                                                     DK I met Claudio at the Litchfield
she was a teenager. So, we got a chance                                                 Jazz Camp. (Drummer) Samuel
to hang out after so many years.                                                        Martinelli put a CD together, Cross-
                                                                                        ing Paths, with Claudio, myself, and
JJ   You went to South Africa                                                           Tomoko Ohno. Claudio was very sick,
several times with pianist Abdullah                                                     but he still played great on it. Claudio
Ibrahim. What was that like?                                                            really liked the band and decided to
DK South Africa is an amazing, beauti-                                                  keep the band together, and we start-
ful country. I had studied African his-                                                 ed playing gigs together. After Clau-
tory. I knew what had happened during       so down to earth, so humble. Meeting        dio passed, we decided in his honor
apartheid and what Nelson Mandela           him was one of the highlights of my life.   to keep it together as The Trilateral
had gone through in prison on Robin’s                                                   Project. Claudio was a sweetheart
Island. We were playing for the 50th        JJ  What was it like teaching               and a total master. I felt honored to
anniversary of the African National         at William Paterson                         be his friend and be on the band-
Congress. Nelson Mandela was pass-          during the pandemic?                        stand with him. His spirit is always
ing the baton to (Tobo) Mbeki. We per-      DK It’s actually made me learn              there when we play. We always have
formed, and they invited all the artists    how to use social media more. I’ve          a special time together, and the more
to meet Mandela at the end of the per-      been teaching on Zoom, and I’ve             we play, the more it really jells into
formance. I shook his hand, which was       actually got a feel for that. Along         something. We are hoping to get a
pretty amazing in itself, and we spoke      with my students at William Pat-            recording out as our next project. We
for a minute. I just couldn’t believe       erson, I have students in Taiwan,           are now working on material, and we
that this person of this stature was just   which is also very rewarding.               are going to get featured guests on it.    SandySasso.com
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RISING STAR

 Described as, ‘One in a Million’, Caelan
  Cardello is Ready for the Next Step
           “He Just Keeps Getting Better and Better ...
       He’s Investigated the Whole History of Jazz Piano.”
                        BY SA NFO R D JOSE P H SO N

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      n November 16, 2019, the Giants    William Paterson in May, and he was
      of Jazz concert at the South Or-    able to study with Mabern for 1 1/2
      ange Performing Arts Center        years. “He was one of my main in-
honored the late pianist and educator     spirations and motivations,” he said.
Harold Mabern, who died two months       “Every time I would walk into a les-
earlier on September17. The majority      son with him, he would start playing
of performers that night were recog-     immediately. He did not waste one
nizable jazz veterans, but there were     second, and he had amazing stories
also some memorable performances by       about Coltrane and Monk. I truly
young upcoming artists. One of those      miss him. When you were playing
was pianist Caelan Cardello, a sopho-    with him and asking questions, he re-
more at William Paterson University,      ally showed that he cared about you.”
who played with a WPU quartet that            When Cardello was four years old,
performed Mabern’s “Edward Lee.”          growing up in Teaneck, NJ, he started
    Cardello will be graduating from      studying cello. “That lasted for about

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