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“
                     We decided intentionally
                  to call ourselves the Uniting
                    Church because uniting is
                  something we are called into
                      on a constant basis.
                    Several weeks ago, we celebrated the
                 44th anniversary of the Uniting Church.
                                                                                       ”
                                                               weeks, I’ve been reflecting on so many
                                                               other ways in which Jesus’s prayer may
                 Many congregations and communities of         be calling us into one-ness and how
                 faith marked that in worship, reflecting      these have been part of the vision of the
                 on the prayer of Jesus that so inspired       Uniting Church right from the beginning.
                 the UCA’s formation back in 1977.               Jesus’s prayer for us, and Jesus’s
                    It was John 17:11 - “that they may         calling to us, is that we may be one. It is
                 be one” - a prayer that, in our hearts        a powerful thing when the Church lives
                 and lives, God may be glorified. We           a way of life that is clearly and obviously
                 reflected on our identity as the Uniting      different to the world of conflict, division
                 Church, asking questions such as, What        and inequity that we live in.
                 is distinctive? What do we value? What          We are called to be communities
                 do we find challenging? How are we            characterised by the way we seek to
                 changing?                                     overcome divisions, by the way we
                    Since then, I’ve found myself reflecting   handle disagreements, by the way we
      Reverend   over and over again about all the sorts of    use our time and energy, our wealth
                 contexts and ways in which Jesus might        and properties for the good of the
Denise Liersch   be imploring us to be one. And perhaps        communities we are part of, by the way
                 it’s not surprising. Due to restrictions      we live for the sake of the world God
    Moderator    on our gatherings, lots of birthday and       loves.
 Vic Tas Synod   anniversary celebrations have been              Over the past few weeks, I’ve had
                 strung out over many weeks.                   the privilege to see UCA communities
                    But really, it’s probably much more        of faith living into this call and prayer
                 to do with something intrinsic to our         of Jesus in so many different ways. I
                 identity as the Uniting Church. We            shared with Murrumbeena, Leighmoor
                 decided intentionally to call ourselves       and Coatesville congregations, who
                 the Uniting Church, not the United            worshipped together last month for the
                 Church, because uniting is something          very first time. They wanted to explore
                 we are called into on a constant basis.       what they could do together in mission
                 Seeking unity is core to our DNA as the       and discovered how good it was to pray
                 Uniting Church. Seeking unity in our          and worship together.
                 hearts and lives with God and each other        I shared with St Stephen’s and Electra
                 and our world is a way of life that is        Street congregations in Williamstown:
                 central to our faith.                         distinct congregations who nevertheless
                    Many of us yearn for a recovery of that    wanted to celebrate their common life in
                 1977 vision to live more fully into the       Christ and shared stories of family, work
                 prayer of Jesus, and see this most fully      and faith over morning tea.
                 expressed in recovering the ecumenical          I shared stories and experiences
                 vision we had back then. There’s no           with seasonal workers from Vanuatu
                 doubt, this remains important.                working on farms in Gippsland and with
                    At the same time, over these past          members of the Stratford congregation,
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building connections of friendship and       community, like inclusive social events,
support.                                     community gardens, homework clubs,
   I’ve heard survivors of child sexual      ukulele groups and community choirs,
abuse, telling their stories of the harm     walking groups, community art projects
of neglect and abuse, but also of how        and community meals.
they’ve risen up with courage and               We are living in the time of Pentecost,
resilience to be advocates and agents of     asking ourselves the question of how we
change and love and support for others.      might live into the life Christ offers.
   I’ve heard stories of the impact of          As we look back at the Acts Pentecost
colonisation and the long-term harm          story, we remember the people didn’t
it has created for generations of            find themselves all speaking the same
families of First Peoples, and also of         language. They didn’t all become the
their grace and strength in reaching             same as each other. They still spoke
out to Second Peoples in seeking                  their own very different languages
understanding and reconciliation                  and retained their particular culture
– especially through Narana and                   and identity. But they discovered
Leprena.                                           that, when they attended to each
   I’ve heard stories of                            other and listened carefully, they
communities during the storms                        could understand each other.
and floods in the Dandenong,                           When Jesus prays that we may
Macedon and Yarra Ranges and                           all be one, it doesn’t mean we
Gippsland, neighbour reaching out to                        all have to be the same.
neighbour, to offer meals, the warmth of                       It means knowing our
their home, or access to their electricity                      distinctive differences,
supply where they had it.                                       we can listen to and
   And I’ve also heard people                                   understand each other,
expressing amazement at the                                       and know how to live
work of the Church in mission:                                     with each other
people giving of themselves in                                      along with all our
justice and advocacy work;                                          differences. And work
in emergency relief; in                                             together for the good
support for people                                                of the world beyond
living with disability;                                      ourselves.
putting their wealth                                         What a powerful witness it
and properties to work                                   is to the gospel, when we live
to support those living                                 as fellowships of reconciliation,
with homelessness;                                    sharing what we have, and
supporting vulnerable                                coming together as one for the
families and children;                             sake of a shared love of the world
supporting opportunities for                    God loves – living into Jesus’s prayer
people to come together in                   for us, that we may be one.
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approach
       New president Sharon Hollis says the UCA must continue to engage with First Peoples
                         and embrace its multicultural communities.

                                                    By Rebecca Beisler

   When Rev Sharon Hollis was named
President-elect of the Uniting Church in
Australia, the world was a different place.
It was pre-COVID-19.
                                                   “ I grew up thinking
                                                   it's possible to live
                                                                                           big picture thinking needed to reimagine
                                                                                           what might be.
                                                                                              Sharon comes to the role having
                                                                                           served in the UCA from a number of
   Last month, Sharon was installed as            alongside people who                     interesting perspectives – she was
the next President, the third woman to
hold the post, the first ordained woman
and the first person, irrespective of
gender, to take up the position in an
                                                    aren't like you.
                                                         Rev Sharon Hollis   ”             our Synod’s Moderator from 2016-19
                                                                                           and has been a ministry educator and
                                                                                           congregational leader.
                                                                                              As a young person, her identity was
                                                 Some might say a daunting task lies
environment no one predicted.                 ahead for Sharon to lead the Church          formed within and by the UCA, and those
   Even beyond COVID-19, there are            through this pivotal time of self-           experiences have shaped the hopes she
many changing circumstances in our            reflection and change, but if there is one   carries for the Church going forward.
society and in our Church which have          theme that is constant in Sharon’s life,        When she was eight, Sharon’s
left many of us asking: what is the UCA’s     it has been change. She has lived it, led    family moved to Keilor Park under the
future?                                       people through it and relishes the kind of   flightpath of Melbourne’s Tullamarine

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Airport. It was a hub of cultures and
languages of largely European migrants.
  “We lived on a street with over 100
                                            “faithRevwasJimtoMurray helped me understand that if your
                                                               have any integrity, it had to be embedded
                                                                                              ”
houses and there were only two English-
speaking families,” Sharon says. There                    in committed action in the world.
were people from Hungary, Germany,                                             Rev Sharon Hollis
Malta, Italy and Greece.
  “It struck me when we moved to             “I guess I grew up thinking it’s possible   Monash University opened a new world.
the country how I’d really taken that     to live alongside people who aren’t like         “My horizons expanded beyond
for granted. It wasn’t something that     you.”                                          anything I’d ever known, both socially
was celebrated like we celebrate             At 13, Sharon moved to her mother’s         and culturally, but particularly
multiculturalism today, but you would     home town of Finley, a small town in           intellectually,” Sharon says.
hear different languages coming out of    the Riverina region of NSW where she             “I did a subject on how women are
your neighbour’s backyards and smell      finished her schooling. Moving back to         portrayed in Australian history, and I
different foods.                          Melbourne to begin an Arts Degree at           became a feminist. It gave me that sense
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that learning can change you and can         congregation,” Sharon says. “They didn’t
give you real insight and power.”            fight it. They just said, ‘let’s work out the
   It was also a formative time for her      best way to do this’.”
identity as a Christian.                        Sharon walked alongside the
   “It was probably my first exposure to     congregation and helped them discern
how negatively some people view the          their priorities for transferring to a
Church,” Sharon says.                        new congregation. In the end, the
   “I had to work out what it meant to       congregation unanimously agreed to a
engage in social justice from a faith        new home and they all moved together.
perspective. When that wasn’t the               “When we all met a year later, they all
motivating factor for most people,           looked at me and I said, ‘Oh, we should
how do you make peace with that in           have done it earlier. It’s been so fantastic.
yourself?”                                   They’ve been so welcoming’,” Sharon
   A key mentor for Sharon at the time       says.
was Rev Jim Murray, the minister at             Sharon is still full of admiration for the
Monash Uniting Church.                       community’s mature approach.
   “He helped me understand that if your        “They were able to find new life
faith was to have any integrity, it had to   because they ended the old one,” she
be embedded in committed action in the       says. “It might not have emerged in the
world,” she says.                            same way if they hadn’t been willing to
   Not long after university, Sharon         say, ‘this congregation’s life is ending’.
discerned a call to ministry. She               “It was a very hopeful and faithful
describes life as an ordained minister as    experience.”
an honour and privilege.                        Sharon has also found hope in the
   “To be able to preach every week,         darkest moments of her own life.
open up scripture, and help people see          Nearly eight years ago, Sharon’s
the way of God in the text, to accompany     husband, Michael, took his own life. They
people through major life transitions        had been married for 19 years. At the
and be with people in the darkest of         time of his death, Sharon says she pulled           Image: Nicole Cleary
moments, just to be able to encounter        on all her intellectual knowledge of grief
people at depth, is really rewarding,” she   and loss, but that didn’t make it easy.
says.                                           “People say, ‘I don’t know how you
                                             keep going’ but you don’t get a lot of
                                             choice,” she says. “I had two daughters            “I think we need those courageous

“  What life-giving
communities of faith do
                                             and I had to get up every day and at least
                                             make their lunch and pack them off to
                                             school.
                                                                                             conversations about the way we do
                                                                                             things,” Sharon says.
                                                                                                “Is this way of being or structure or
is help people notice and                       “I said to myself, this can either break
                                             me or it can break me open and I want
                                                                                             project helping us be the community
                                                                                             we want to be? That takes a lot of
see where God is in the                      to choose to be broken open by it. And I        discernment and being willing to listen
                                             hope it’s made me a better, wiser, more         to each other, and to own our sadness
world and equip them to                      compassionate person.                           when we need to let go.”
participate in that.
                             ”
                                                “I still miss him all the time. I’m still       For Sharon, the future conversation is
                                             deeply grateful for having known him.           also about hope.
Rev Sharon Hollis                            He had a great capacity to be supportive           “One of the phrases that has stuck
                                             and encouraging and I still feel the legacy     with me from the Act2 conversation is
  In her first congregational placement,     of that all the time.”                          the end goal of ‘life-giving communities
Sharon was called to a congregation that        A key project during Sharon’s term           of faith’,” she says.
was in the last years of its life.           as President will be to help lead the              Sharon hopes the Act2 project will
  Eighteen months into the placement,        Assembly’s Act2 conversation – a process        inspire us to be more creative in thinking
when all avenues for survival were           of discernment about where God is               about what a community of faith looks
exhausted, the congregation voted to         calling the Church into the future.             like; whether it’s online, face-to-face or
close and gave themselves 18 months to          Sharon says this may mean sitting            gathered for a short time, and to rethink
prepare.                                     in the uncomfortable space between              the ways the Church is engaged in the
  “I have such high regard for that          endings and new beginnings.                     world.

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“Wethathavewe toarekeep reminding ourselves
                                                                                            a multilingual church
                                                                                                                 ”
                                                                                                                Rev Sharon Hollis

   “What life-giving communities of faith       that and really work out what it means.”   culture embedded in them. I hope it
do is help people notice and see where             At the 16th Assembly online meeting     prompted people to find someone who
God is in the world and equip them to           in July, Sharon invited First Nations      spoke another language and asked them
participate in that,” she says.                 students from Nungalinya College to        how they drew out different meaning
   For Sharon, how the UCA engages in           lead the Bible Study.                      when they read it.”
the public space unequivocally starts              “I’m intrigued and really glad we had     Sharon is also aware that stepping into
with how we as a Church and as a nation         that opportunity to hear those leaders     the role of President requires switching
come to terms with the dispossession            open scripture for us and to hear what     her own perspective from a Synod lens
of Australia’s First Peoples and the            they wanted to say to us about what        to a national perspective.
continuing privilege most of us have            it meant to live together in love, and       “I have belonged and worked in the
because of it.                                  what that demanded of us as Second         Synod of Victoria and Tasmania for
   “Our First People have gifted us with        Peoples,” she says.                        nearly 30 years,” she says. “It’s a part
the Statement from the Heart, and the              Another way Sharon hoped the 16th       of my life I’ve always been involved in.
generosity in that continues to stagger         Assembly helped the Church think           There’s a little bit of grief in that part of
me - that a people dispossessed by us           differently was the intentional use of     my life coming to an end, but I am also
would come back and say they would              different languages to communicate the     looking forward to seeing the future
like to have another go to set this right,”     theme “Dwelling in Love”.                  of the UCA from all of the unique and
she says.                                          “We have to keep reminding ourselves    diverse perspectives that we have across
   “I think if we miss that opportunity, it’s   that we are a multilingual church,” she    our Church.”
catastrophic for us as a nation.                says.                                        Whatever lies ahead, change is certain.
   “Our own Preamble is a beginning, but           “We all speak many languages and        Sharon will no doubt lead with creativity,
we still have a long way to go to live into     those languages have meaning and           energy, resilience and hope.

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our s tes
     Many of our churches were built for communities that no longer exist as they once did and,
    as such, have become under-utilised or, in some cases, empty. But those very churches can
           enrich their congregations and communities in ways not previously possible.

                                               By Andrew Humphries

   On November 11, 1880, bushranger            Rev Daniel Draper’s grand vision for        “It is undeniably at present the finest
Ned Kelly was hanged at Old Melbourne       Wesley Church was of a Gothic design,        church in Australasia, and will bear
Gaol, reportedly uttering the phrase        featuring high-quality architecture          favourable comparison with many of the
“such is life” as he met the noose.         and, while that vision was criticised by     churches of the old country.”
   Kelly’s death came just 46 years after   some as being too ornate, his design           More than 160 years after its
pioneer Edward Henty had established        prevailed, the foundation stone was laid     construction, a revamped Wesley
Victoria’s first European settlement at     on December 2, 1857 and the first service    Church now takes pride of place as
Portland Bay, 360km west of Melbourne,      was held on August 26, 1858.                 part of the $200 million Wesley Place
in 1834.                                       Daniel’s vision had come at a cost of     redevelopment in Lonsdale St, with
   Just 23 years after Henty’s deed,        £26,000, the equivalent of more than $2      restoration of the church itself costing
Wesley Church was built in the heart of     million today and, for that sort of money,   about $6 million, about three times the
Melbourne.                                  attracted more than a few accolades.         original cost of construction.
   Originally a Wesleyan Church, it            “No visitor of Melbourne can fail to be     The 35-storey office complex was
became a Methodist Church in the            struck with the very large and handsome      constructed on land owned by the
union of 1902, and then part of the         ecclesiastical edifice in Lonsdale Street,   Uniting Church, on and around Wesley
Uniting Church following the union with     known as Wesley church,” John C              Church, and a partnership arrangement
the Congregational and Presbyterian         Symons wrote in his 1870 biography, Life     with developer Charter Hall means
churches in 1977.                           of the Reverend Daniel James Draper.         the site has not been sold, but is being

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Image: P. Archavin

                                                                   “from
leased from the Uniting Church for 125       former Synod                                                          abundance with
years, assuring the Church’s future as       Moderator               This principle of sharing                     needier parts
a place of worship and community
gathering.
                                             and National
                                             Assembly
                                                                         our abundance with                        of the church is
                                                                                                                   reflected in the
   So as the UC’s spiritual home in
Victoria, Wesley Church has an important
                                             President
                                             Alistair Macrae
                                                                  needier parts of the church                      way we have dealt
                                                                                                                   with property
role to play, but can the same be said for   firmly believes       is reflected in the way we                      sale proceeds for
every church, church hall, manse and
related building within the Victorian and
                                             congregations
                                             should be
                                                                    have dealt with property                       decades,” Alistair
                                                                                                                   says.
Tasmanian Synod?
   As times change and congregation
numbers dwindle, particularly in
                                             considering the
                                             issue carefully.
                                                Alistair says
                                                                 sale proceeds for decades.
                                                                                  Alistair Macrae          ”         “A significant
                                                                                                                   percentage of such
                                                                                                                   sales is directed
regional areas, is it time that serious      the principle of                                                      to the broader
questions are asked about what use can       sharing resources across the Christian          mission resourcing of the church so that
be made of buildings that are surplus to     community has deep Biblical roots, and          the whole church benefits, especially
requirements and could potentially reap      he cites Paul’s call for mutual aid in 2        those parts of the church that may not
financial benefits?                          Corinthians 8: 7-15 as a perfect example.       have valuable property and other assets
   Current Wesley Church Minister and           “This principle of sharing from our          to finance mission.”
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   Alistair says it is incumbent on church
officials to look at how assets not being
used can be utilised for the betterment
of all.
   “It is clear that currently our Church
has very significant asset resources
that are underutilised, giving the lie
to our professed understanding of
stewardship,” he says.
   “In many cases, we have received
these assets from the sacrifice and
generosity of our forebears. We honour
them by acting creatively, imaginatively
and generously, asking the Spirit to
use these received resources for the
proclamation of the good news, the
embodiment of God’s reign and the
service of God’s world.”
   In regional Victoria and metropolitan
Melbourne, Ballarat and Airport West
represent interesting case studies in how
the sale of church assets has ensured
the funding of ongoing missional work,
benefiting congregations and the wider
community.
   In Ballarat, Pleasant Street Uniting
Church (formerly Wesleyan Methodist)
and Wendouree Uniting Church
were both sold in September 2019,
with part of the proceeds opening
up opportunities to fund a range of
initiatives within the Presbytery of
Western Victoria.

“beenOurused
         congregation has
             to a history of
amalgamations from the
days when we had four                        services in Ballarat. “The Presbytery was      “We have invested in the chaplaincy
                                             the beneficiary of those sale proceeds      program because we believe it’s not
churches and a parish and                    and as a result it is able to fund the      just a benefit to Ballarat, but also to the
usually this was done for                    Ballarat Regional Health Care chaplaincy
                                             program,” Trevor says.
                                                                                         whole of the presbytery.”
                                                                                            None of this happens, though, without
missional purposes.
Ken Baker                      ”               “So that money is able to fund a
                                             full-time chaplain who co-ordinates
                                             volunteer chaplains for the major
                                                                                         tough but necessary decisions needing
                                                                                         to be made around what happens
                                                                                         to church property that is no longer
                                             hospitals in Ballarat, as well as some of   needed, but can be put to use in a
  Presbytery Minister for Pastoral           the nursing homes.                          financial sense.
Leadership and Education, Rev Trevor           “A lot of people in western Victoria         In fact, some properties are not just
Bassett, says the sale of the Pleasant       have to come to Ballarat for major          no longer needed, they are often a drain
Street and Wendouree buildings has           medical procedures, so we think the         on financial resources through ongoing
enabled the presbytery to fully resource     whole presbytery benefits from having a     maintenance, rates and associated costs.
the Bev Pratt Chaplaincy Centre and its      chaplaincy network in Ballarat.                When looking at all of this, Trevor

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“ We have invested in
                                                                                              the chaplaincy program
                                                                                          because we believe it’s not
                                                                                          just a benefit to Ballarat,
                                                                                            but also to the whole of
                                                                                                   the presbytery.
                                                                                                                Rev Trevor Bassett  ”

argues there is little to weigh up and he     have had and it is also freeing them up     wouldn’t have been available. “Our
is firmly in the camp that says utilising     from the worry of maintaining ageing        congregation has been used to a history
the proceeds from the sale of church          properties that are falling into poor       of amalgamations from the days when
infrastructure no longer needed is clearly    repair.                                     we had four churches and a parish and
the way to go.                                   “It really is a win-win situation (for   usually this was done for missional
   “I’m very much a supporter of that         congregations).”                            purposes,” he says.
concept,” he says.                               About 110km away in Melbourne,             “After the parish went in the mid-
   “I think it represents a really positive   Airport West Uniting Church members         2000s, we were left with two churches,
step for the church that is going to          are also reaping the rewards after          St Mark’s in Keilor East and St Phillip’s in
enable a lot of smaller congregations         making the decision to divest some          Airport West, and in 2012 it was decided
to divest property that is really just a      church assets after the amalgamation of     to become one church.”
millstone around their neck.                  congregations.                                This move meant a decision was made
   “This means that money is now                 Their decision, says chairperson         to sell the Keilor East site and renovate
being freed up to provide missional           Ken Baker, has opened up a range of         and extend the Airport West site, which
opportunities which they would never          missional possibilities which otherwise     contained two blocks of land that the
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“It has attracted a population,           area. It was such a social hub (with) all
                                          extraordinary in number, with               year-round activities’.”
                                             unprecedented rapidity; it has             Christopher writes that many years
                                              enhanced the value of property to       ago, churches were a much bigger part
                                                an enormous extent and it has         of local communities.
                                                  made this the richest country         “In the 19th and early 20th
                                                   in the world.                      centuries, when most of Melbourne
                                                      “In less than three years, it   and Victoria’s churches were built,
                                                    has done for this colony the      vast edifices with seating for hundreds
                                                    work of an age, and made          were filled every Sunday,” he writes.
                                                    its impulses felt in the most       “(It was) not just one church per
                                                   distant regions of the earth.”     suburb or town, but five at least.
                                                     In Ballarat, the then-             “Those churches were often of great
                                                Wesleyan church, which became         architectural merit. Indeed, churches
                                               Pleasant Street Uniting Church,        are not uncommonly the finest
                                             opened in 1867 at the grand cost         buildings in their community.”
                                          of £1700, the equivalent of about             Retired Minister and Uniting Church
                                          $500,000 today.                             Historical Society member Robert
                                            For what was to follow, that £1700        Renton says the importance of early
                                          seems to have been a bargain, as the        church services was reflected in how
By Andrew Humphries                       church played a pivotal community           they were reported in the local media.
                                          role over the next 150 years.                 “In the 19th century, and to some
  In 2019, Pleasant Street Uniting
                                            Churches such as Pleasant Street          extent in the first half of the 20th
Church in the heart of Ballarat was
                                          became more than just places                century, local newspapers reported
sold, ending more than 150 years as a
                                          of worship and were, in fact,               on Sunday’s church services, and
place of worship.
                                          cornerstones of the community: a            occasionally printed the sermons of
  The proceeds from its sale, and that
                                          special place where people travelled        the ministers,” he says.
of Wendouree Uniting Church, have
                                          long distances to gather in a                 “Oratory was still regarded as
allowed the Presbytery of Western
                                          communal sense.                             something of a gift and was highly
Victoria to fully fund chaplaincy
                                            For many pastoral families, the           valued, so sermons could extend
services in the region, offering
                                          Sunday service was the only time            well beyond the 12 minutes of more
support and hope to many people.
                                          they travelled into “town” all week,        modern times to up to 30 or even 40
  The construction of Pleasant
                                          making it a grand occasion and a            minutes in length, or even longer.”
Street offers a snapshot into one of
                                          major day out.                                This was a period in which
Australia’s most famous periods, the
                                            Long-time journalist Christopher          ministers really did “tower” over the
time when Ballarat was gripped by
                                          Akehurst has been visiting and writing      congregation, thanks to “a central
fever: “gold fever”.
                                          about churches for many years and           pulpit so high that the Lord’s Table
  Beginning in the 1850s and
                                          describes Pleasant Street as “a good        was dwarfed down on the floor”, says
continuing to the late 1860s, the gold
                                          example of a local church as centre of      former minister and historical society
rush led to a period of extreme wealth,
                                          social life as well as worship”.            member Peter Aumann.
setting regions including those around
                                            “A fourth-generation Pleasant               In the 1950s, though, that was
Ballarat and Bendigo on the path to
                                          Street member reminisced in                 beginning to change, as ministers
prosperity.
                                          the (Ballarat) Courier that in her youth    saw the need to better engage with
  “The discovery of the Victorian
                                          ‘so much … activity was church-             congregations.
Goldfields has converted a remote
                                          based. There were church dances               “By the 1950s, ministers were
dependency into a country of
                                          and there was a very strong Ballarat        coming down out of high pulpits
worldwide fame,” the Victorian Gold
                                          churches tennis association which           anyway, they needed to be more
Discovery Committee wrote in 1854.
                                          was the main tennis association in this     informal” Peter says.

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congregation was encouraged to make          church assets that are no longer of                “Those were times of great suburban
use of in terms of a sale.                   practical use.                                  expansion, when, as earlier, all
   That decision, says Ken, has allowed         “As far as I’m concerned, it’s the only      denominations wanted a local place of
the congregation to ensure ongoing           way to go,” Ken says.                           worship in each locality.
funding for important missional work.           “In our case, some people were                  “According to the Heritage Council
   “The only avenue for us to have an        initially disappointed about the decision       of Victoria, 743 places of worship were
income to ensure our ministry into the       to sell the two blocks of land, as they         constructed between 1945 and 1994
future was to sell those blocks of land      were used for extra parking, but they           in the Melbourne metropolitan area
and we did that in December last year,”      could see the missional benefits in doing       alone, and the congregations were
he says.                                     so.                                             there to go to them, since most families
   With the congregation about to begin         “I know that there are churches sitting      still maintained some sort of church
receiving the proceeds from the interest     on buildings they no longer use, but            connection.
on the sale of the blocks, with settlement   they have to maintain them and that will           “In those same suburbs, such customs
confirmed in April, Ken says their           become an expense into the future.              and habits have all but vanished and it
financial future is now guaranteed.             “I don’t think it’s good stewardship to      is there that churches, some no more
   “The outcome from the sale is             sit on anything that you are not using.”        than 50 years old, are most seriously
a favourable one for us because it              As times change and other interests          threatened.
guarantees us an income,” he says.           take priority, church attendances have             “The young parents who took their
   “We want to be able to maintain a         continued to fall, as places of worship no      children to them when the buildings
minister and continue our programs and       longer hold the same pull they once did.        were new are old now or dead.
this enables us to have a viable financial      Journalist                                                            “The new

                                                                   “wouldn’t
future.                                      and church                                                           generations that
   “We would probably be OK with what        historian               without this money we                        buy their houses
we have now for another four or five
years but, beyond that, we need an
                                             Christoper
                                             Akehurst has
                                                                             have been able                       don’t go to church.
                                                                                                                  Many of these
income of several thousand dollars (a        tracked the         to keep anyone in ministry,                      post-war churches
year) to remain in the black.                changing face                                                        are buildings of
   “So the income from the interest          of worship over     because if we were looking                       architectural quality
accrued from the sale of the blocks
amounts to about $35,000 a year and
                                             the years and
                                             laments the fact
                                                                    for a minister today, I                       and emblematic
                                                                                                                  of the taste of their
that will enable us to continue with our     that dwindling         couldn’t say with any                         time.”
programs, have a minister and also put       congregation                                                             And while we
aside money for any renovations needed       numbers              confidence that we could                        may feel a sense of
down the track.
   “The fact is that without this money
                                             means many
                                             churches, of all
                                                                   pay them in five years’                        sadness at this loss
                                                                                                                  and the passing of
we wouldn’t have been able to keep
anyone in ministry, because if we were
looking for a minister today, I couldn’t
                                             denominations,
                                             now face the
                                             prospect of
                                                                           time.
                                                                                         ”
                                                                                    Ken Baker
                                                                                                                  history, perhaps an
                                                                                                                  opportunity opens
                                                                                                                  up.
say with any confidence that we could        closure.                                                                 Yes, some churches
pay them in five years’ time.”                  “The other category of churches most         and other assets may not be viable, as
   As a former school principal, Ken         in danger now are those in Melbourne or         congregation numbers no longer support
knows his way around budgets and the         provincial-city suburbs that were built         them, but that doesn’t mean they don’t
need to make tough decisions around          in the two decades before the Second            represent a final gift: the opportunity
finances and, like Trevor, says there        World War and the five decades after,” he       for sale and ongoing funding of vital
should be little debate around selling       writes in his blog, Here Today.                 missional work.

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All
in the                                                                                          Laurenne admits to a feeling of great
                                                                                                pride around what Neil Street has
                                                                                                contributed to her and the wider

family
                                                                                                community.
                                                                                                   “I get very teary at times when I think
                                                                                                about it,” she says.
                                                                                                   “It’s my spiritual home and it’s my
                                                                                                family.”
                                                                                                   However, that emotion is balanced
                                                                                                by reality, and Laurenne acknowledges
                                                                                                that it makes sense to consider selling
          By Donald Moss                                                                        some of Neil Street’s assets, which are
                                                                                                no longer useful, to ensure its financial
                                                                                                future.
                                                                                                    “We have already looked at selling
   Laurenne Robertson admits to                for services, with about 40 people               the old manse, which is very rundown,
becoming quite emotional when she              attending on a weekly basis, as COVID-19         and is too much for us now (in terms of
talks about what the Neil Street Uniting       restrictions have had an impact on               upkeep),” she says.
Church (pictured) means to her.                numbers.                                            “As time goes on, we might look at
   That’s hardly surprising, given the fact       Laurenne says the number of                   doing something with the first two
that five generations of her family have       worshippers during those early years             churches because they also need so
worshipped at the historic church on           would have numbered comfortably in               much work done on them.
Ballarat’s Soldiers Hill.                      the hundreds, as the church became a                “We’re definitely receptive to having a
   In fact, the site contains three distinct   weekly focal point of life in the growing        conversation (around the possible sale
churches, making it, Laurenne believes,        city.                                            of some church assets).”
unique in Australia.                              “The number attending would                      As secretary-treasurer, Laurenne is
   “I’m not sure any other congregation        certainly have been in the hundreds and,         heavily involved with administrative
in the country would have three separate       even when the first church opened, there         matters relating to Neil Street and, while
churches on their site,” she says.             were about 80 children taking part in            it takes up a large amount of her time,
   And to suggest those three churches         Sunday School,” she says.                        she can’t imagine doing anything more
have played a major role in the Ballarat          “They used to have an anniversary             rewarding.
community for many years would be a            in the largest of the churches and                  “It really is a labour of love as far as I’m
serious understatement.                        there would be 400 children on a large           concerned,” she says.
   They have, in their own way, become         platform at the front of it.                        That devotion is easy to understand
part of the fabric of the city’s life for         “If you add two parents for each of           when you consider that Laurenne can
nearly 160 years.                              those children, you are looking at a huge        trace her family’s involvement with Neil
   The original church opened on August        congregation.”                                   Street back to the late 1800s.
25, 1861, as an alternative to the Lydiard        Such was the level of support from               “I’m actually the fourth generation
Street Wesleyan Church which, although         worshippers at that time, Laurenne says          on my mum’s side of the family to have
just a mile away across Gnarr Creek,           Neil Street would hold three services            come here, but it’s really five generations
became almost impossible to get to             each Sunday to accommodate everyone.             because my son now also attends,” she
during winter as heavy rain turned the            This year marks the 160th anniversary         says proudly.
creek into a muddy bog.                        of the first service at Neil Street and,            “In the late 1800s, my great-
   With Ballarat’s population growing          while it will be a low-key event, the            grandfather came from England and
quickly, the original church wasn’t            occasion will be marked with a service           attended Neil Street. My mum used to
considered big enough and, in 1866, a          on September 12.                                 sing in the choir here, and did so when
second church was built, with the first           “We had a huge celebration (in 2011)          she was pregnant with me, so I can say
service there held on March 3, 1867.           for our 150th anniversary, but we won’t          that I have been attending for 64 years.”
   However, 20 years later, it was decided     go that big this time around as we can
even that church wasn’t large enough to        only have 172 people attending due to            Likely COVID restrictions will limit the
accommodate congregation numbers,              COVID-19 restrictions,” Laurenne says.           number of worshippers at the 160th
and a third church was constructed,               “It will be low key, but it will still be a   anniversary service on September 12.
opening on October 30, 1892.                   special service.”                                If you would like to attend, contact
   That church is currently used                  As that 160th anniversary approaches,         Laurenne at laurennejr@gmail.com

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Putting the

     in Uniting
     A new book chronicles the lived experience of 21 members of the Uniting Church.
       Their reflections are honest, insightful, illuminating and sometimes inspiring.
                                 These are edited extracts.

           “
                                 WE TRY NEW WAYS OF WORSHIP                  It’s not always easy, but I think it’s
            Our Church’s         By Michelle Harris                       so important. It’s basic to our faith and
                                 The Uniting Church was a risk.           humanity and contributes to our sense
          willingness to         What a leap of faith, bringing three     of belonging.
          try new ways of        denominations together. I’m sure there
                                 would have been doubters, and there
                                                                             The Uniting Church, of course, has
                                                                          its struggles. Some of these are unique;
          worship, to            were definitely dissenters. But it has   some of them I feel are societal. It seems
                                 worked. It’s not perfect and it might    to be a societal problem that people are
value both traditional and       not last forever. But it has shown me    joining and volunteering less and less in
modern, old and new, is          sometimes you have to take that leap.
                                   Being part of the Uniting Church
                                                                          community organisations.
                                                                             The commitment to live and learn
encouraging.
               ”                 means being part of community. And
                                 being part of a community, amongst
                                 other things, means serving others.
                                                                          and grow, the continued effort and
                                                                          struggle to be a relevant church in the
                                                                          21st century is what makes me stick with

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the Uniting Church. There are several
other reasons as well. Our Church’s work
and relationship with our Aboriginal and
Islander brothers and sisters through
                                                        “    I attend
                                                          rarely, but the
                                                                            I NEEDED TO FORGIVE MYSELF
                                                                            By Katrina Davis
                                                                             Just before I started my HSC my family
                                                                            moved again, this time to the outskirts
UAICC (Uniting Aboriginal and Islander                    Uniting Church    of Sydney.
Christian Congress) is another.
   Our continuing relationships with, and
                                                          is still my          I had three resolutions when I moved.
                                                                            The first was to join a gym (this took
support for, overseas partner churches       church and I am proud of       another 20 years). The second was to get

                                                                 ”
is another. Also, our Church’s willingness                                  a job (didn’t happen until university).
to try new ways of worship, to value both    it. It has saved me.           The third was to join a youth group.
traditional and modern, old and new, is                                        The youth group at the local Uniting
encouraging.                                                                Church was a huge success. There
Michelle Harris has completed tertiary                                      was nothing like it in the small town
studies in education and theology.                                          I had come from. I had tremendous
                                                                                                          Continued P18
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From P17

fun with this group of young people. I
felt connection and belonging. I had a
proper grown-up spiritual life of my own
and I took to this and to the social life
                                              (with groundings in a Buddhist, rather
                                              than Christian tradition).
                                                 None of this critical reflection should
                                              be taken as the definitive judgement of
                                                                                                            “Church’s
                                                                                                               The Uniting

with enthusiasm.                              the influence that the Uniting Church                     support for
   I still drink from my commemorative
1997 National Christian Youth
                                              has had on me. I have been shaped in
                                              profoundly positive ways as well.
                                                                                                        many justice
Convention mug. My parents took some             Many of the values that I aspire            causes is both a strength
                                                                                                                   ”
convincing to let me fly all the way to       to reflect have come from Christian
Tasmania for the convention, but I am so      influence. I believe governments               and weakness.
glad they did. I had never experienced        should intervene and intervene often
anything like it: young people like me        with outlandish compassion and I vote          INVEST IN CHILDREN AND YOUTH
from all over the country, so much            accordingly. I try really hard to avoid        By Glenda Downie
talent and creativity on display, amazing     holding people in judgement. I rail            I believe the future of the church is its
speakers, and buckets of fun.                 against ever writing someone off. I don’t      children and youth; without investing
   My beliefs became more fully my own        doubt there are many close friends and         significantly in them, the church will
during these years. I unquestioningly         distant acquaintances who could testify        literally die.
believed that Jesus died for my sins. I       to my failings in all these areas, but my         One of the attractions of the Uniting
understood that if I believed in Jesus and    failure to inhabit these values does not       Church is its ability to welcome all:
gave my heart to him that I would go to       negate their importance to me.                 “just as you are”. However, welcoming
heaven when I died and not to hell.              The bulk of these “blessings” come          can only go so far if you do not have
   The theology I listened to and             from the latter part of my Christian           programs or supports in place to
endorsed at this time was hugely              life when I was an active member of            encourage families and young people
impactful, but not always positively. The     a progressive, inner-city church. We           to stay and become connected. The
most fundamental tenet of this theology,      celebrated the leadership of women             congregations themselves can only do so
as I understood it, was that I was a sinner   and LGBTIQ+ people. We honoured the            much without support from Synods.
and I deserved punishment. A lifeline         sacred texts and sought their historic            As a children’s worker, I am often
was offered in the divinity of Jesus          and contemporary meaning. We were,             disappointed that United Theological
who could forgive my sins. Critically,        at worst, a bit wordy and exclusively          College does not offer children’s
forgiveness didn’t provide a free pass to     erudite, but this matched my devotional        ministry-specific day courses or
sin. Despite never being able to achieve      bent.                                          intensives to help develop those already
worthiness in the sight of God through           I attend rarely, but the Uniting Church     involved in youth work. While this might
my own actions, I received the message        is still my church and I am proud of it. It    not be the intention of the Uniting
that I must never stop trying.                has saved me. I still turn to its stories in   Church, it does tend to scream “young
   The theological understandings             making sense of my life. I am cross that it    people are not our focus or who we
important to me have changed                  hurt me. I take comfort in the belief that     value”.
considerably since these first years          I will one day return when we are ready           The Uniting Church’s support for many
of adulthood, but even in the more            again for each other.                          justice causes is both a strength and
“progressive” churches that I have            Katrina Davis is an aspiring writer.           weakness. While for the most part many
attended since then, theology has been                                                                                     Continued P20
a central preoccupation. Not necessarily
in sermons or theological reflections, but
orders of service still included confession
and absolution as non-negotiable
liturgical beats.
   I wonder what might have been
achieved if instead of being encouraged,
albeit gently, to confront my sins, I
was taught how to live with mistakes,
to recognise the common humanity
rather than individual sinfulness that is
inherent in mistake making, and to learn
to forgive myself.
   This is the work of the self-compassion
journey that I have started in mid-life

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From P18

                                                             “
                                                          My Christian
causes need our love and attention, they                                                   years, and I wonder now how my parents
should never be at the expense of its                                                      carried the hopes and expectations of
people. When an issue begins to divide                  faith was an                       the Uniting Church on their shoulders.
and causes disunity within the Church,                                                     How they must have stood in that
I begin to wonder if it is truly wise to                oddity in my                       ghastly gap, between what was and what
pursue it.
   At times it can seem like these causes
                                                        circle of                          could be.
                                                                                              Traditions and dreams colliding,
sap all our energy, leaving children and     friends. I was the God-                       generations held together in grace, yes,
young people bereft of love, safety, and                                                   but also in the pain of loss, and that
a place to belong to and be hopeful,         believing kid, and I was                      peculiar grief of a slowly dying church.

                                                 ”
something only Christ can provide.                                                            You see, growing up Uniting means
   I yearn that believers in Christ would    OK.                                           I never saw the golden years of the
invest in children and young people in                                                     church. I never heard the sound of a
the same way people invested in me           UNITING MEANS BELONGING                       Sunday School filled to the brim with
through my childhood and teenage             By Elizabeth Elia                             children.
years. While the frustration I have          I think it was in the childhood of my faith       I never knew the certainty of all my
experienced in recent years has made         that I became aware of “the Christian         friends going to church.
me question my loyalty to the Church, I      veneer” and the lengths to which we              I never knew what had been lost or
realise no church is perfect. God calls me   might go to hide our true self, our           how the church’s decline permeates
to be where I am for his purposes alone      doubts, our fears and failures.               every Hallelujah, filling my Uniting
and this is the driving force that keeps     Having a dad as a minister deeply             Church with perpetual grief and
me within the fold of the Uniting Church.    imprinted on me the reality that our          resurrection hope.
Glenda Downie is engaged in                  ministers are only ever human, thanks            Eventually life’s tragedies and
children’s ministry at Pittwater UC,         be to God!                                    triumphs brought my family to the
NSW.                                            These were in many ways difficult          Blue Mountains, where I would soon

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“identity
meet Rev Marjory who would be called          my circle of friends. Yet I was grounded
to Leura Uniting Church. She wore             in the ability to wonder and question,                           My Yolnu
colourful dangly earrings. She told
stories. She spoke of God like a woman.
                                              I was so committed to inclusion and
                                              acceptance, that it wasn’t hard for my
                                                                                                                      keeps
I will be forever grateful to have grown      friends to accept me. I was the God-                     me strong. As a
up in a church where gender was not a         believing kid, and I was OK.
stumbling block to imagining myself in            When I think back on the communities                 Yolnu Christian
ministry.
   The term “Bible-believing church”
                                              that have shaped my growing up I am
                                              filled with gratitude and hope for the
                                                                                            I think we have something
somehow entered my consciousness as           future of the Uniting Church.                 to bring the wider
                                                                                                        ”
a young person, the implication being             Growing up Uniting means creating
that some churches, that is the Uniting       safe places of belonging. It means seeing     church.
Church, didn’t really believe in the Bible.   and nurturing potential, but also making
   The truth is I didn’t grow up reading      space for trying and failing. It means        LET’S LISTEN TO YOUNG PEOPLE
the Bible “religiously”.                      carrying one another in our grief and         By Justine Ganwanygawany
   But what I did learn was how to            frustration and when things fall apart.       As a child I went to youth programs but
question and wrestle with the scriptures.     It means learning to tell your own story,     as I got older I dropped out of going to
I was given a safe space to doubt and         which is also our story and God’s story. It   church.
rage and wonder what on earth this holy       means listening for God’s call in the lives      I was a single mum and life was a bit of
text could mean for my life and for the       of the church and community who love          a struggle. And I was working and pretty
life of the world.                            you.                                          stressed. I spent a lot of time at card
   For someone growing up in a                    It means continuing the wonderful and     games.
predominantly secular environment, this       lifelong journey of growing up.                  One night I lost all my money                Ŋ
way of “reading” the Bible was helpful.       Elizabeth Elia is the Minister at             gambling. This wasn’t unusual but on
   My Christian faith was an oddity in        Glenbrook UC, NSW.                            this night I became aware of music
                                                                                                                            Continued P22
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Rev Sani Vaeluaga has done                     in-a-million                                                  done in ministry life.
many wonderful things in his time                experience,”                                                     “(There is a great
as a Minister, but one of the most               he says.                                                      message around this)
memorable occurred recently when                    “It’s an                                                   for not only Eve, but
he fulfilled a 101-year-old woman’s              incredible                                                    her family and the
dearest wish.                                    story and,                                                    church, in the sense
  On May 20, Sani had the remarkable             from what I                                                   that in faith and hope
honour of baptising Lara aged care               heard from                                                    it is never too early or
resident Eve Crumpton (Eve and Sani              the family, it                                                too late to celebrate
are pictured right).                             seems there                                                   such an occasion.”
  Sani and Eve’s pastoral carer, Beryl           were circumstances that meant she             Eve was born in the UK and married
Kenny, conducted the baptism, while              couldn’t be baptised as a child.           Raymond in 1943. They had three
her family was also there to witness the           “But she still had that dream and        children – Wendy, Susan and Paul –
special event at the Costa House aged            that hope with her, and it goes to show    before moving to Australia in 1952 and
care facility, where Eve lives.                  that it doesn’t matter how old you         settling in Lara.
  Not surprisingly, Eve’s baptism broke          are, if something is so significant and       Ray died in 2013 but Eve still
new ground for Sani, who was only too            important to you, the right time and       is in good health. She now has
happy to play his part.                          opportunity will come along.               eight grandchildren and 12 great-
  “I have never baptised anyone over               “It was such a privilege to be able to   grandchildren.
100 before, so it brought a whole new            share it with Eve and it’s certainly one      When asked how she felt after the
dimension to baptism and was a one-              of the most memorable things I have        event, Eve said simply: “At peace.”

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coming from the church mob who were             together. Both are water, they meet and        throughout the last few years especially
having fellowship outside. I remember           mingle, like different tribes. We might        where I have questioned the point of
the words of the song were “There is a          travel together or separate but we come        having a belief in something as strongly
place for you.”                                 together, we are connected.                    as some do.
   An internal tug of war was going on             If you ask me what my hopes are,               I have questioned the existence of
inside of me, whether to go and hang out        I remember how recently my young               any god(s) at all, especially in high
with another group of card players or           cousin, Abigail, was carrying a bag with       school where most of my peers openly
go and join the church people. I had my         a Bible in it. She said, “I want to be a       expressed a disbelief and distrust in the
daughter with me and we went towards            minister.” I don’t know what she’ll grow       Christian God, in particular, and the ones
the sound of the music.                         up to be but I felt happy to think that this   who didn’t were right-wing conservative
   I sat down in the shadows, furthest          was something she was thinking about,          traditionalists and with that latter group
from the light. Listening to the words          a possibility.                                 I shared polar opposite views about
of that song I was asking in my heart if           I hope the church can encourage and         most things. Any that were in between
God has a place for me. My little girl kept     listen to young people. Many have so           were too afraid to disclose their minority
saying she wanted to sit closer to the          much to share and good stories to tell         belief, or if they followed a religion other
light.                                          so we need to give them opportunities          than Christianity.
   That night I made a choice. I got up         to lead. I hope we can give space to              My faith and spirituality is what most
and moved into the circle of light. My          newcomers. We need their gifts.                would describe as an unconventional
heart was thumping. And I found myself          Justine Ganwanygawany works as                 and progressive view of religion. I believe
crying as if the outer shell had broken.        an assistant teacher in Ramingining            in a God who is perhaps a creative force,
I felt the need to kneel down and pray.         community school and is currently              a positive energy, a mystery that is
And it was like light was shining all           doing a Diploma in Translation Studies         not meant to be fully known, in order
around me giving me a new start.                at Nungalinya College, NT.                     for us to find ourselves amongst the
   I prayed to the sky, “Now I know it’s                                                       uncertainty of life.
you Lord. And you want me not to keep                                                             I do not believe you have to be

                                                                “believe
wasting all my money and wasting my                                                            religious in order to be a good person,
life. You have a purpose for me”.                                  I do not                    but I believe my faith has had a very
   A heaviness lifted. I felt light and there
was a great sense of relief. I felt the heavy
                                                                         you have              important role in shaping my personality
                                                                                               because it has made me more
burdens I’d been carrying could be laid                   to be religious                      empathetic, open-minded and free of
down.                                                                                          judgement towards other people and
   That was 2007. And I never went back                   in order to be a                     has assisted me so far in finding all sorts
to the cards. How would I describe
the last 14 years? I think of words like,
                                                good person, but I believe                     of meanings in my life.
                                                                                                  Jesus spoke about love and he also
wonderful, precious. I still have family        my faith has had a very                        talked about justice and judgement—the
struggles and face tough obstacles but                                                         whole basis of His message was that God
I know I can learn from those and keep          important role in shaping                      loves therefore we must love as well. In
going. I have God with me and I’d never
want to go back to what it was like
before.
   Darkness can ruin your life. It’s hard
                                                my personality.
                                                MY FAITH HAS BEEN FLUID
                                                                         ”                     light of all this, the biblical call of our
                                                                                               God to justice, to love of neighbour, to
                                                                                               care and love of the groaning creation is
                                                                                               still what the Church can offer and what I
                                                By Madeline Gordon
to describe but moving to the light has                                                        see is the future of the Church.
                                                Something that I have found to have
given me a beautiful life.                                                                        We have responsibilities that come
                                                been difficult at (my congregation) is the
   My Yolŋu identity keeps me strong.                                                          with our many blessings and I am
                                                ageing demographic within the church
As a Yolŋu Christian I think we have                                                           convicted that more needs to be done.
                                                and I understand that this is an issue all
something to bring the wider church.                                                              Christianity is fighting a relevancy
                                                throughout the Uniting Church.
   The Christian faith that has been                                                           battle in Australia and part of that is
                                                   I do find it difficult to see the church
passed down to me by my Yolŋu family                                                           the church not being able to keep up
                                                itself remaining relevant to me and
weaves together knowledge of Jesus                                                             with the changing context because it is
                                                other people within my generation.
and knowledge of this land from our                                                            changing so rapidly.
                                                While I believe the core messages to be
Indigenous heritage. The song lines of                                                            So how do you make the message
                                                enduring and timeless, these seem to
our ancestors connect us together. Like                                                        relevant for this time?
                                                get lost amongst the many things that go
the way a river (Yirritja moiety) runs                                                            We have a timeless message, but
                                                against religion.
towards the ocean (Dhuwa moiety).                                                              we are not able to make it relevant for
                                                   I have had a very fluid relationship
The fresh water and salt water mix                                                             this particular time, so we go back to
                                                with my faith. There have been moments
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