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DEPT FOR WORK AND
PENSIONS SUPPORT
FOR MORTGAGE
INTEREST: INFORMAL
CALL FOR EVIDENCE
CONSULTATION PAPER
Response by the Money Advice Trust   (February 2012)
CONTENTS

   Introduction

About the Money Advice Trust                                            2
A partnership approach – who we have consulted                          2
Responses to individual questions                                       3

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INTRODUCTION

About the Money Advice Trust
The Money Advice Trust (MAT) is a charity formed in 1991 to increase the quality
and availability of money advice in the UK. We work with the UK’s leading money
advice agencies, government and the private sector to increase the availability of
money advice, improve its quality, and enhance the efficiency and effectiveness of
its delivery.

MAT’s vision is to help people across the UK to tackle their debts and manage
their money wisely. MAT aims to support individuals and micro-businesses in the
UK through their debts and into financial health, and to improve the capability,
quality and efficient delivery of free independent money advice by:

 Delivering advice to the public via National Debtline, Business Debtline and
  My Money Steps;
 Supporting advisers;
 Making the case for free money advice;
 Co-ordinating initiatives to improve money advice;
 Sharing research and information to shape and influence policy.

How we have drawn up this response
In preparing this response, we have consulted our partner agencies in the free-
to-client money advice sector in order to achieve a consensus view. These
partners include:
 Advice NI
 Advice UK
 Citizens Advice
 Citizens Advice Northern Ireland
 Citizens Advice Scotland
 Institute of Money Advisers
 Money Advice Scotland
 National Debtline and Business Debtline (where relevant)
 Payplan.

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Some of these partner agencies will also submit their own separate responses to
              this consultation paper. These submissions may include issues not covered below.
              Please note, our partner agencies may not have provided views on this response
              where this consultation paper does not cover their specific jurisdiction.

              Please note that we consent to public disclosure of this response.

              Introductory comment

              We welcome the Government commitment to continuing to provide Support for
              Mortgage Interest (SMI), and support its goal of helping borrowers to stay in their
              homes and avoid repossession.

              The free-to-client advice sector hear from many thousands of people every year
              who are struggling to meet their mortgage repayment commitments, and as such
              we have a good understanding of how people arrive at a situation where they need
              help. As an example advisers at National Debtline are dealing with 50% more
              calls in relation to mortgage arrears in 2011 as compared with 2007.

              A combination of factors has played a crucial role in keeping arrears and
              repossession as low as possible despite the economic downturn, such as lender
              forbearance, partnership work with the free-to-client debt advice sector and
              Government departments, the reduction in the qualifying period for SMI to 13
              weeks, the low interest rates and, until recently, paying SMI at a higher standard
              interest rate. The Government took, and continues to take, a role in working on
              these issues through the Home Finance Forum, chaired by ministers.

              Repossession rates have fallen from 2009 to 2011 1 according to the Council of
              Mortgage Lenders figures but they have forecast a rise in 2012 due to falling
              incomes, cost of living rises and unemployment.2

              Our overarching concern is that many of the proposals as outlined in the paper
              will have a negative impact on claimants with mortgage arrears, and therefore may
              reverse this pattern. This would increase the financial burden on society from
              increased repossessions, lead to increased misery for thousands of families, and
              adversely affect the capacity of the advice sector in straightened times to deal with
              the increase in new clients seeking help, at a time when demand for debt advice is
              forecast to rise sharply.3

1
    http://www.cml.org.uk/cml/publications/forecast
2
    http://www.cml.org.uk/cml/media/press/3073
3
 Demand, Capacity and Need for Debt Advice in the UK John Gathergood
http://www.infohub.moneyadvicetrust.org/content_files/files/demand_capacity_and_need_for_debt_advice_in_th
e_uk_update_june_2011.pdf

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The other key points we would make, based on the evidence we gather from
clients, are as follows:

 The proposal to pay SMI directly to the claimant may well have undesirable
  consequences for all parties.
 We are not convinced that a policy of adding a charge to property for long-
  term claimants is fair and reasonable, although the following factors should be
  taken into account:
         there could be benefits if those claimants who are required to be available
          for work can continue to receive SMI after 2 years;
         extending SMI to a greater range of types of mortgage and secured loan
          might well be advantageous;
         we would urge Government to give particular thought to proposals to use
          actual mortgage rates for each claimant rather than the standard interest
          rate with an obligation on lenders to report changes in interest rate.

 In the medium to long term, we would urge Government to consider
  alternatives to SMI as outlined in the various research papers alluded to in our
  answer to question 19. We believe that a serious assessment of the merits of
  each approach is warranted in order to reach some conclusions for the future
  of SMI.

Responses to individual questions
Putting a charge on property

Question 1      Do you think payments for support for mortgage
                interest should be recouped from claimants who
                are in receipt of help on a long term basis?

We are concerned about the principles that underpin the proposals in this paper to
recoup support for mortgage interest (SMI) from claimants for the reasons outlined
below. The proposals as they stand mean that the burden principally rests on the
homeowner who will have to pay both their mortgage and their SMI back. Long
term the Government recoups their money as does the lender. We feel that the
burden should be more evenly spread as keeping people in their homes has
benefits for Government, lenders and the borrowers themselves.

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We are of the view that these provisions will disproportionately impact lone
parents, carers or the long-term sick and those with disabilities or over
pensionable age. Not only will claimants have the legal responsibility to pay their
mortgage whilst on benefits, they will be accruing a further debt, secured on their
houses, with added interest.

We are concerned that these proposals are inconsistent as there is not the
equivalent requirement on those in receipt of housing benefit to pay back the help
they have received with their rent. Whilst we recognise that there is not an
equivalent scenario for tenants in being supported with the appreciation of a
privately owned asset, there is an argument in relation to the value of the public
subsidy that has gone into the right-to-buy policy for tenants of social landlords
over the years.

 In contrast, however, the paper points out that it is much cheaper to pay SMI at
current levels than the bill for housing benefit. This makes SMI good value in
comparison to the costs of housing benefit particularly in the private rented sector.
The paper quotes official DWP statistics as follows:

“The average weekly SMI awards stood at £29.847 in May 2011, this compares to
an average weekly Housing Benefit award of £87.468. The current maximum
possible SMI award is £139 per week for working age recipients with an eligible
mortgage of £200,000.”

Paragraph 32 of the paper states:

“The interest rates which currently prevail do, however, make the costs of SMI
relatively low. Clearly the help offered by way of SMI may change if interest rates
eventually increase from their current historic lows. And when interest rates return
to their historic trend, SMI will become more expensive, and could potentially
become more expensive than other forms of housing support.”

It could also be argued that in many areas of the country where there is little
growth in house prices that the state is not assisting such claimants to build up an
asset at all. Stagnant house price growth and negative equity in many areas
outside London and the South East mean that in such cases the state is merely
supporting claimants to stay in accommodation that is cheaper than the equivalent
costs of housing benefit in the private rented sector. It also saves the costs of
repossession.

The consultation paper is unclear what would happen if the house was sold or the
claimant died and the house had insufficient equity to clear the charge on the
house. What would happen to the outstanding debt and interest that had built up
in these circumstances?

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In our experience it is generally unrealistic to rely on selling up and downsizing
whilst on benefit. As the borrower will be very unlikely to be able to obtain a new
mortgage for the new property whilst on benefit, this will only be an option for
those with such substantial equity that they could buy outright, or have a very
cooperative mortgage lender who will allow them to transfer part of their existing
mortgage to the new property.

Selling up and entering social housing is also an unrealistic option as in many
cases local authorities will regard voluntary sale as rendering the household
“intentionally homeless”. If the household is therefore forced to rent privately this
will further inflate the housing benefit bill, thus creating the scenario where money
has been saved from the SMI bill only to be spent in much higher amounts under
housing benefit in the private rented sector.

Question 2       What period of time would represent a long term
                 basis? For example, two years?

Many of the groups that would be affected would be likely to be on income-related
benefits for many years because of long-term illness, disability, caring
responsibilities or over pensionable age. Therefore, we do not consider a period
of two years to be a sufficiently long enough period in this context. We would urge
Government to consider whether the starting point for “long-term” should therefore
be reconsidered. Even at current mortgage interest rate levels SMI payable at £30
a week over 10 years would amount to a charge on property of £15,600 without
taking account of the statutory interest that it is proposed will be accruing.

If the argument in the paper is correct that those seeking work on income-based
Jobseeker’s Allowance are likely to be in and out of work on a short term basis
then they may not be the group most affected by this proposal.

Question 3       What are your views on the idea of recouping
                 support for mortgage interest payments from long-
                 term claimants through a charge on their property?

We support the payment of SMI to cover the full amount of claimant’s actual
mortgage interest. We do not favour an increase in the waiting period as this
would inevitably result in a build up of mortgage arrears and an increased risk of
repossession. We hope that the Government can be dissuaded from recouping
SMI from long-term claimants for the reasons outlined under Q1. We could only
be convinced of its merits if proposals included paying SMI to cover the actual
mortgage interest with no increase in the current 13 week waiting period.

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If recouping SMI payments through a charge on property is adopted with the
caveat that there should be no waiting period (or a reduction of the 13 week
waiting period), that SMI interest should be paid at the actual interest rate charged
by the lender, and with the retention of support up to the mortgage level of
£200,000 then this would go some way to assist claimants. The administrative
burden could be greatly reduced by a requirement on lenders to inform the DWP
of changes in interest rate in a timely manner. We would also suggest that as the
lender would benefit from a guarantee to receive full interest payments that there
should be further discussion as to whether lenders should be required to agree a
maximum interest rate for those on SMI. See our response to question 4.

There would need to be safeguards in place to ensure that the DWP was unable to
attempt to recoup the charge in any circumstances apart from sale of the property
or death. Also there would need to be careful consideration as to when the charge
could be recouped on the death of the claimant. There would need to be
adequate protections built in to protect the remaining household who may need to
stay in the home where the main mortgage is paid off or who may wish to take
over paying the mortgage. It should not be possible to attempt to enforce the
charge on the property in such cases. There should also be protections built in to
ensure that the charge cannot be enforced in any other cases.

We oppose the proposals to add interest to the charge. The claimant is already
being charged interest by their mortgage company. They are then getting
assistance to pay that interest through SMI. To then be charged interest on their
SMI seems to be unfair. SMI is good value for money compared to housing
benefit. It does not appear likely that administration costs for a long-term charge
sitting on a property would be substantial. If it could be demonstrated that there
are administrative costs, perhaps a flat-rate charge could be added to reflect these
costs. Adding interest runs the risk of profiting from individual claimants’
misfortune. It is one thing to decide that there is a case for recouping SMI but
another to gain interest on balance.

Question 4      Are there other ways that Government could
                recoup or reduce the cost of long-term SMI claims?

We would suggest that further consideration should be given to putting a
requirement on lenders to reduce the interest rates on mortgages to a standard
lower set rate once a borrower becomes eligible for SMI. This would assist the
borrower to stay in their homes and avoid repossession. It would also reduce the
costs to the Government of SMI overall and would lessen the administrative
burden of making payments. This could be recouped through extending the term
of the mortgage. In summary, Government could require lenders to charge less
interest whilst borrowers are claiming SMI but this could be recouped by the lender
by adding to the end of the term or extending the term.

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A similar proposal has been put forward by the Minister for Welfare Reform, Lord
           Freud who stated:

           “It is not right that mortgage lenders are charging high street prices when they are
           guaranteed bulk payments from the government. They borrow money at a reduced
           rate all the time, so I know there is scope to average winners and losers in a way
           that is viable to them and would protect claimants from repossession.” 4

           There are other proposals which have been put forward as alternatives to SMI.
           We have included a brief outline of these in our answer to question 19.

           Question 5        Should there be a fixed period of grace before the
                             charge is applied?

           Yes, see our response to question 2. We query whether 2 years is a sufficient
           period of grace given the likely groups of claimants to be particularly affected by
           the proposals.

           The period of grace should be applicable to those with long-term needs as well as
           cover those with a short-term income shock.

           Question 6        Once it is applied should it relate to the total value
                             of the support provided?

           If there is a period of grace then any charge should not include the SMI paid
           during the initial period, whatever period is chosen.

           Question 7        Should the proposal to put a charge on a property
                             be extended to cover all recipients of SMI,
                             effectively abandoning the two year limit in place
                             for claimants who receive SMI with Jobseeker’s
                             Allowance or its future equivalent with Universal
                             Credit?

           We have never been in support of limiting support available to those on
           Jobseeker’s Allowance to two years. This policy is unnecessarily punitive. Clearly
           it was planned as an incentive to find work. It does not, however, deal with the
           reality during difficult economic circumstances that in many areas there is little or
           no work to be found.

4
 http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/news/story/lord-freud-asks-mortgage-lenders-to-voluntarily-reduce-interest-rates-
for-c/

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We therefore reluctantly support the proposal to extend the policy of putting a
               charge on the property to all recipients of SMI if that is the only way to avoid
               repossession for those on Jobseeker’s Allowance in the long term.

               The standard interest rate

               Question 8          Do you think that the current method of calculating
                                   the standard interest rate is the fairest and most
                                   effective method?

               We would agree that a standard interest rate is efficient to administer for the
               decision makers. However, it has led to hardship for those whose mortgage
               lender’s interest rate is above the standard amount. This applies typically to
               people who have taken out higher interest mortgages from non-status or sub-
               prime lenders perhaps due to impaired credit ratings and existing financial
               difficulties. This group of borrowers is therefore most vulnerable to financial
               pressures and will find it difficult to find the extra money to pay their mortgage
               interest on top of other bills.

               Citizens Advice evidence shows that since 1 October 2010 when the standard rate
               of interest changed for calculating help with housing costs from 6.08% to the
               average mortgage rate published by the Bank of England (currently 3.63%) for
               many individuals there is now a shortfall in the amount of help payable through the
               SMI scheme and the actual amount of interest they are paying on their mortgage.

               This change in standard interest rate is impacting on claimants who are paying
               higher rates of interest than the average mortgage rate, especially those with fixed
               rate mortgages and many claimants who have borrowed from sub-prime lenders
               who are more likely to be paying higher rates of interest.

               In December 2007, Citizens Advice England & Wales published a report showing
               the high number of CAB clients subject to possession claims by subprime
               lenders. 5 The Citizens Advice NI ‘Dealing with Debt’ project evidence 2006-2011
               has shown a sharp increase in the mortgage debt figures, from £479,287 to
               £9,038,508, an increase of 1,785.82% which far exceeds the increase in service
               capacity over this period. This large figure encapsulates many larger mortgage
               shortfalls 6 and shows the increasing number of large repayments due in interest
               on many mortgages.

5
    Set up to fail, Citizens Advice, December 2007, page 6
6
    Mortgage shortfall is defined as when house has been sold in negative equity and the client is liable for the balance.

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Case studies from Citizens Advice NI
              A Newry client lost their job and now receives Jobseeker’s Allowance. The SMI
              commences after the 13 week waiting time and the full assistance at the interest
              rate of 3.63% will not cover the client’s full interest payment. The client will have to
              pay £150 per month from their benefit or face the accruing arrears and possible
              repossession action. The client is a lone parent and has numerous other debts
              due to losing their job. Their mortgage is for £80,000 with an interest rate of 5.9%
              and the assistance will be restricted to £242 per month they have to pay mortgage
              interest of £363 (total including capital of £492) client has other non priority debts.

              A Derry Client was informed that their SMI would be reduced from £27 to £18 per
              week which means they will have to pay the shortfall from their Income Support.
              The client will have difficulty managing this drop in income and subsequent
              financial hardship.

              We therefore support moving to a system where the actual interest rate for the
              mortgage is taken into account for individual borrowers or alternatively where
              mortgage lenders are required to reduce the interest rate to the standard interest
              rate for the period of time SMI is paid.

              Question 9       Is there another method of calculating a standard
                               interest rate for SMI that may be fairer or more
                               effective?

              The current method of calculating SMI is certainly fairer than the previous method
              which did not reflect the actual interest rates being charged to borrowers in reality.
              The DWP recognise this in the Support for Mortgage Interest Equality Impact
              Assessment. 7

              “By setting the standard interest rate at the Bank of England published average
              mortgage rate (3.67% in April 2010), we estimate that just over half of all support
              for mortgage interest customers (around 115,000 people) will continue to have
              their eligible mortgage interest outgoings fully met by their benefit awards. Most
              customers receiving a shortfall under this arrangement (around 110,000 people)
              would still have the lion’s share of their eligible housing costs met by support for
              mortgage interest; creating only a relatively small level of arrears, and based on
              conversations with the Council of Mortgage Lenders we would expect lenders to
              demonstrate forbearance in the vast majority of these cases.”

7
    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/support-for-mortgage-interest.pdf

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We recognise that there could be problems with the current method of calculating
SMI if there is a delay caused by the need to wait for official publication of the
average rate by the Bank of England before the DWP can act to increase the
standard interest rate.

The proposal as outlined in the paper would be our preferred option.

“Having a system of paying claimants’ contractual interest rates, subject to a cap,
where mortgage lenders commit to notifying the Department of changes in rates
within set timescales.”

This would put the responsibility on lenders and the DWP to ensure that the
accurate interest rate was being used to calculate individual claimants’ SMI. This
would tackle the perceived problem with errors, overpayments and the
administrative complexity of a system which relied on claimant action to report
reductions or increases in their contractual interest rates.

We would suggest that adopting this proposal would have advantages for lenders
as they could help to ensure the smooth running and accuracy of the system and
guarantee that their borrowers receive the correct amount, thus preventing further
arrears developing.

We do not favour a cap on the interest rates that would be coverable under such a
system, as failure to cover the full contractual interest could easily lead to
increased repossessions and hardship for individual borrowers. Those subject to
such a cap are likely to be the most financially disadvantaged who have taken out
sub-prime mortgages in the past.

If this option is not achievable, it would still be fairer on borrowers with specific
mortgage products if the suggestion in the paper to link standard interest rates to
particular products was adopted.

“Having a system of two or three standard interest rates which would be linked to
average rates of particular mortgage products such as tracker, fixed rate or
standard variable rate. Claimants would be awarded the standard rate that was
appropriate to their mortgage product.”

This would go some way to assisting the many who find that their mortgage
interest rates are higher than the standard interest rate using the current method
of calculation.

Finally, we would point out that if our suggestion in our response to Question 4
was implemented of a requirement on lenders to charge a reduced rate of interest
for SMI claimants, this could be at a standardised rate.

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Question 10 Should any action be taken in respect of the
                        treatment of ‘excess SMI’ payments – if so, what?

            We do not agree that payment of SMI should be made directly to borrowers. If SMI
            continues to be paid to lenders directly, then part of the problem with the
            requirement for borrowers to forward “excess SMI” to their lenders would
            disappear. Any excess would still be paid to their lenders and used to pay the
            outstanding mortgage and/or mortgage arrears, making it more likely that the
            borrower can remain in their home. We are much more concerned with those
            whose mortgage interest rates are higher than the standard rate in payment as
            outlined above.

            We do not have any additional proposals for action in respect of excess SMI as
            the problem does not appear to be significant.

            Mortgage interest direct

            Question 11 Do you think that it is the right policy to move away
                        from the Mortgage Interest Direct scheme for most
                        claimants?

            We believe that moving away from paying mortgage interest direct could have
            disastrous consequences for claimants and lead to increased levels of
            repossessions and consequently costs for both the taxpayer and Government.

            The report ‘Homeowner Support Package Impact Assessment’8 suggests that the
            average quantifiable cost to the exchequer of a repossession of a vulnerable
            household is £16,000.

            NEF Consulting, in a report for the Law Centres Federation, calculated that
            avoiding eviction of a family of four can result in a saving to government of
            £34,000.9

8
  CLG Impact Assessment September 2008. “We have estimated that the average e quantifiable cost to the exchequer of
a repossession of a vulnerable household is £16,000. This is a cost associated with the HB payments that would be paid
to this household in order to house them in Temporary Accommodation (TA), and then in the SRS.’
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/housing/pdf/Homeownerssupportpackage
9
  NEF Consulting / Law Centres Federation, The socio-economic value of law centres, 2008. This figure includes the cost
of providing accommodation in London, as well as the cost of providing treatment for depression, the cost of school
support for children and the loss of tax receipts resulting from loss of employment; See
http://www.lawcentres.org.uk/uploads/Read_the_Socio-Economic_Benefits_of_Law_Centres_here.pdf

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These reports demonstrate the huge costs that result from repossession. Where
              claimants are under financial pressures, there will be many competing demands
              on their limited resources. It can be extremely difficult for anyone on benefit level
              income to budget according to which household bill should be their priority (based
              on the sanctions available to creditors). It is more usual to react to the first urgent
              bill, the creditor who shouts the loudest or the need to replace essential goods
              such as a broken washing machine. It is very easy to fall into mortgage arrears as
              a result. We have serious concerns about the ability for many of a low income,
              particularly those with low levels of financial capability to be able to manage direct
              payment of mortgage payments effectively.

              Furthermore, Warwick University has been involved in a longitudinal study looking
              at the long term impact of debt advice on low income households. 10 The research
              looks at the difficulties that many people on a low income experience when
              attempting to balance a tight budget. Some of those who participated in the study
              considered themselves to have good budgeting skills but despite this many
              struggle to keep afloat and avoid getting into debt because of the inevitable
              tensions and tradeoffs that have to be made when living on a low income. For a
              recent study in how households will use different and sometimes damaging coping
              techniques adopted in an attempt to manage day-to-day living expenses on a low
              income including strategic late payments of bills as well as food and fuel rationing
              see “Facing the Squeeze.” 11

              Citizens Advice NI established ‘Dealing with debt’ service report that they have
              seen an increase in the number of clients who receive their main income from
              benefits from 19.27% in 2008-09 to 18.9% in 2009-10 and 37% in 2010-11. This
              shows that clients who are on benefits are increasingly likely to be servicing and
              also seeking assistance with debts. The process of making payments to their
              lender directly allows claimants to remain in control of their finances.

              Citizens Advice NI also report having seen an increase in the number of owner
              occupiers using the service from 45.19% in 2008-09 to 51.2% in 2009-10 and
              55.94% in 2010-11, and anecdotal evidence of an increase in clients from a white-
              collar worker background, showing a changing demographic using the service.

              Case studies from Citizens Advice NI
              A Carrickfergus client is divorced and has been unemployed for 18 months. He is
              in receipt of Jobseeker’s Allowance and receives help with mortgage interest
              payments. The client is struggling to meet the mortgage interest payments since
              the interest rate changed and is very distressed about this.

10
     http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/ier/research/debt
11
     http://www.infohub.moneyadvicetrust.org/content_files/files/facing_the_squeeze_2011_final.pdf

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A client from Fermanagh CAB has been unemployed for some time. Their only
              income is Jobseeker’s Allowance for a couple of £102.75 a week. Due to the
              change in interest rate the client will now have to pay £130 towards mortgage
              interest payments. The client is distraught about this and worried about losing the
              home.

              We would suggest that it is vital for mortgage payments to go directly to the lender.
              This protects the vulnerable against repossession and engenders a feeling of
              safety for claimants that at least the roof over their heads is protected as far as
              possible.

              As the Council for Mortgage Lenders points out in its initial response to the
              paper: 12

              “Another major concern for lenders is the proposal to abandon mortgage interest
              direct, which ensures SMI is paid directly from the government to the lender.
              Instead, the government is proposing to pay benefit to the householder "so that
              claimants take responsibility for making their mortgage payments to their lenders
              in the same way that many of them did when they were at work.

              We acknowledge the merits of encouraging personal responsibility but, in practice,
              any move away from mortgage interest direct must mean that some funds
              intended to meet mortgage costs are diverted to other spending by some
              claimants. In our view, it is difficult to justify this potential use of taxpayers’ funds.”

              We would also support the position taken by the Building Societies Association in
              their commentary on the proposals. 13

              “We question the need, however, to change the current process of direct payment
              of SMI to the lender, as this ensures in every case, SMI is being used for the
              purpose it is set out for. Direct payment to the borrower could, in some cases,
              result in the money being used for other purposes. This undermines SMI and
              could leave the borrower in a more vulnerable position with their mortgage. We
              acknowledge that consumers should be encouraged to have personal
              responsibility for their finances, however the current payment system works and
              we see no reason to change it.”

              We would also point out the difficulties that could arise if SMI payments are made
              in respect of an eligible couple or a family and the payee has addiction problems
              or is otherwise disinterested in safeguarding the family home. (For example, if a
              relationship is breaking down and the payee has no long-term commitment to
              staying in the home with the rest of the family.)

12
     http://www.cml.org.uk/cml/publications/newsandviews/104/388
13
     http://www.bsa.org.uk/feature/DWP_SMI.htm

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We have similarly supported arguments against the plans to pay housing benefit
            automatically to tenants under Universal Credit. In a recent survey carried out by
            the National Housing Federation, 93% of tenants in the social rented sector
            argued that it is better for housing benefit to be paid direct to landlords. 14 Shelter
            found in a recent survey that of those claimants who would choose payments to be
            made directly to their landlord, 95% were struggling too manage their finances. 15
            We have supported the proposed amendment to the Welfare Reform Bill giving
            tenants choice to pay their housing costs directly to their landlord. 16 We
            understand that as a result there is now to be a review led by the Centre for
            Regional Economic and Social Research at Sheffield Hallam University to
            evaluate the effect of direct payments to tenants by way of six demonstration
            project areas. 17

            We would urge Government to make no final decisions on the direct payment of
            SMI to claimants until the results of this review have been published and a full
            consideration of the recommendations is carried out.

            Question 12 If we move away from paying support for mortgage
                        interest by Mortgage Interest Direct, in what
                        exceptional situations should claimants have their
                        mortgage interest payments made direct to the
                        lender and what criteria could be used to determine
                        when this should happen?

            We do not support any move away from paying support for mortgage interest
            through Mortgage Interest Direct. If the Government does decide to move away
            from paying support for mortgage interest by Mortgage Interest Direct it is vital that
            vulnerable groups should retain the protection of having their mortgage interest
            payments made direct to the lender.

            We support a broad definition of vulnerable to include people living on a low
            income which would apply to people in receipt of SMI for the reasons given under
            question 11. Any individual claimant of SMI should be able to request payments to
            be made direct whether in arrears or not. Furthermore to safeguard the families of
            payees, we believe that partners and other family members (in certain
            circumstances) should be able to request that SMI is paid via Mortgage Interest
            Direct.

14
   http://www.housing.org.uk/policy/welfare_reform/direct_payments_to_landlords.aspx
15
   http://england.shelter.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/221659/LHA_directpayment_briefing.pdf
16
   http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2010-2012/0075/amend/am075-b.htm
17
   http://www.rla.org.uk/news/news.shtml?post=1169

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At the very least, anyone who is in arrears with their mortgage should be
automatically eligible to have their mortgage interest payments made direct to the
lender. We also believe that county court district judges should be required to
request Mortgage Interest Direct in all suspended possession cases. This
requirement could be built into the Mortgage pre-action protocol. There will be
further groups that should be considered eligible, mirroring the current rules for
housing benefit, such as where someone is likely to have difficulty managing their
affairs or where it is improbable that they will pay the rent.

The potential consequences both in costs to Government and personal household
trauma of repossession as outlined above should be sufficient to override policy
considerations of encouraging people on benefits to manage their own budgets.
For many claimants there are not the same options of paying their mortgage
through a direct debit. Where there is a bank account that becomes overdrawn,
not only may the mortgage not be paid, but overdraft interest and charges will be
incurred and debt problems will begin to spiral out of control. It may be difficult for
the claimant to open a new bank account that has a direct debit facility or to close
down their existing account in those circumstances.

The treatment of home improvement loans

Question 13 Do you think that the Department should move to a
            simplified approach for home improvement loans,
            subject to a cap on the amount of loan on which
            interest is payable?

Yes, we strongly support the simplification of the treatment of home improvement
loans. We agree with the position outlined in the paper that the rules are much too
restrictive and tightly drawn. As the paper says in point 58:

“The current rules around home improvement loans are difficult and time-
consuming to apply.”

The proposed simplified approach of allowing all loans for housing-related
expenses to become part of the SMI scheme would be beneficial for claimants and
have the benefit of simplicity and speed for decision makers.

The paper outlines a list of envisaged exclusions to the scheme such as:

“loans for debt consolidation, and non-housing-related expenditure such as cars,
holidays, business and personal loans.”

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We would be grateful for clarification as to whether both secured and unsecured
loans taken out for housing-related expenses would qualify for assistance under
the new proposals whereas secured or unsecured loans for non-housing related
expenditure would not qualify.

We note evidence from Citizens Advice NI who report trends showing a recent rise
in the number of people in arrears with secured loans after comparatively low
figures. In 2006/07 this made up £789,587 and only 5% of the total debt seen by
the service. In 2007/08 the amount decreased. In 2008-09 with the onset of
recession secured lending remained around 5% of the total debt seen by the
service. In 2010/11 secured loans have increased to 6.67% of the total debt
amount seen by the service and representing £2,485,305.

We are unable to support a proposal to cap the amount of the loan on which
interest is payable. We are unable to identify a good reason for introducing such a
cap. The proposal outlined in the paper appears to be an arbitrary figure:

“equivalent to a percentage of the eligible home improvement loan(s) in each case
– say 70% or 80%.”

Claimants would still be paying the capital and insurance related elements of the
loan and would be hard-pressed to pay the extra amount such a cap would entail.

Linking rules

Question 14 Do you agree that the 12 and 52 week rule should
            be retained for SMI purposes?

Yes we are strongly in favour of retaining the 12 and 52 week linking rules if it is
intended to retain waiting periods in order to qualify for SMI. Abandoning the
linking rules would be unfair to claimants and would act as a disincentive to
increase working hours or take up short-term work. We note that this is
particularly relevant to Northern Ireland given the large number of people in short-
term and part-time work. This calls into question the need to consider wider
structural issues, for example the availability of jobs and working conditions when
considering changes to the welfare benefits system.

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Question 15 Do you agree that certain other linking rules should
            no longer apply as a simplification measure flowing
            from the introduction of Universal Credit?

No, we do not agree that the 26 week linking rule that allows claimants who leave
benefit because their income from a Mortgage Payment Protection Insurance
(MPPI) policy exceeds the amount of benefit to which they are entitled should be
abolished. Where MPPI income means they exceed the applicable amount it
seems reasonable to treat claimants as entitled to benefits during that period once
the MPPI expires it is not reasonable for the claimant to be expected to serve the
waiting period for SMI. There would be a danger that such a change in policy
would appear to punish those with the forethought to take out a MPPI policy and
penalizes homeowners who have provided for their mortgage during a period of
unemployment, often forfeiting benefits due to the status of MPPI as income. It
also fails to reward them for saving the costs to the state for the weeks that the
MPPI policy paid out to cover their mortgage payments and SMI was not required.

We do not support the abandoning of the 104 week linking period for work and
training beneficiaries. Under this rule, the claimant or their partner would return to
the same level of benefit if they become incapable of work again within 104 weeks
of starting work. The 52 week linking rule would not be a fair and reasonable
substitute for people who were risking a move into work where there is a long-term
illness or disability. Loss of the long-term protection afforded by the 104 week
linking period would be likely to enhance the perception of risk for those groups.
The perception of risk would instead be enhanced by a reduced 52 week linking
period. We fail to see this move to be an increased work incentive as suggested
in the paper.

Time limiting

Question 16 Should certain categories of claimants, for example
            lone parents and people with a disability, moving
            onto Jobseeker’s Allowance (or the equivalent
            within Universal Credit) be exempt from time-
            limiting?

We do not favour time limiting for any categories of claimant. We do not agree
with Government that the two-year time limit is the right policy as suggested in
point 66 of the paper.

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“From 5 January 2009, a two year time limit was introduced for SMI which applies
only to some claimants who receive SMI with income-based Jobseeker’s
Allowance. The Government believes that the two-year time limit is the right policy.
It is underpinned by the principle of providing short-term help through the benefits
system and sharpens the incentive to return to work. We do not believe that it is
appropriate for SMI to be provided indefinitely – to do so would damage work
incentives and increase the burden on taxpayers.”

Ideally, we would favour the indefinite provision of SMI to all categories of claimant
as in the current economic climate; however incentivised a claimant may be to
return to work, in many areas of the country, the jobs are just not available. It is
not in our view fair to base policy on the assumption that it is down to the
individual’s lack of incentive that they have been unable to find work. The results
of such a policy will be to increase hardship and make repossessions and
homelessness much more likely.

However, we would urge Government to adopt the proposal to include those
claimants who are actively seeking work in the category of those who are able to
continue to receive SMI after the time-limited period of grace in return for a charge
on their property. This will have the advantage of ensuring that all claimants are
treated in a similar way. It will also mean that those groups required to be actively
seeking work will have their home protected from repossession.

As the paper says in point 67:

“We will also need to consider any potential interaction of time-limiting with our
approach to putting a charge on property, particularly in terms of allowing a period
of support for mortgage interest before a charge is applied, as this could have a
bearing on the desirability of a two-year time limit.”

Alternatively, if this does not happen, there are further difficulties with time-limiting.
The paper suggests under point 68 that the 2 year limit on SMI should be
extended to groups who move on to equivalent of income-based Jobseeker’s
Allowance under Universal Credit such as lone parents (whose youngest child is
over a set age) and people who are found to be fit for work and stop getting ESA.

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“Currently, anyone who moves onto Jobseeker’s Allowance from Income Support
or Employment and Support Allowance within 12 weeks of their claim ending
(mainly lone parents under the Lone Parent Obligations, or people found fit for
work) are not subject to the two year limit and can receive SMI indefinitely.
However, as the key Universal Credit principle is making work pay, we believe that
from October 2013 everyone receiving income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance and
the equivalent group in Universal Credit should be subject to the two year rule
where they are getting SMI payments. This would mean that they would need to
move into work in order to maintain their housing tenure in the longer-term. We do
not propose that the two year limit should apply to any other groups of working age
claimants or those receiving Pension Credit.”

This does not seem fair. We would advocate that lone parents and disabled
people be treated as exempt, given the many barriers these groups face to work
and the incentive to keep them in their homes. A lone parent will still have caring
responsibilities for young children, whether deemed to be available for work or not.
Losing SMI after 2 years will still result in young children with no protection against
repossession and homelessness.

Citizens Advice NI report that it has always had lone parents and persons with a
disability over-represented in its client group, and this is true of those clients using
debt advice. In 2010/11 22.5% or 503 of 2233 clients using the ‘Dealing with debt’
service had a disability. Lone parents are a more difficult group to report on from
our statistics, however, in the last three years of the service separated or divorced
figures are consistently high at 20%. Also consistent in our figures are the number
of clients with dependent children, 30%.

Case study from Citizens Advice NI
A client from Antrim is a lone parent and receives Income Support with SMI; one of
the children has a disability. The client has received notification that they will have
to contribute £400 per month instead of £120. The client will almost certainly lose
their home as they are not able to maintain this higher level of contribution. If they
subsequently have to claim Housing Benefit there will be no savings made by
Government.

People with long-term disabilities may be declared fit for work but may have
special adaptations to their home to help them cope with their disability. Losing
their home would be disastrous in such cases. Someone who has been long-term
sick and is declared fit for work may well be especially vulnerable to becoming
unwell again under such pressures.

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Question 17 Should there be a limit on the number of times a
                          claimant can access two years of SMI?

              As we have made clear above, we do not favour limiting access to SMI to two
              years for any classes of claimant. If this measure is introduced, we do not favour
              a limit on the number of times a claimant can access SMI. The number of benefit
              claims made by individuals is unlikely to be due to personal choice. Most claims
              will be due to a change in financial circumstances that cannot be prevented such
              as loss of job, illness or relationship breakdown. It would be unnecessarily
              punitive to expect claimants to limit their claims in future.

              Waiting period and capital limit

              Question 18 Have either of these two measures (13 week waiting
                          period or £200,000 capital limit) been effective in
                          reducing the likelihood of repossession? Where
                          possible, please supply evidence to support your
                          response.

              There appears to be a general consensus amongst advice providers and both the
              Council of Mortgage Lenders and the Building Societies Association that the 13
              week waiting period and the £200,000 capital limit have been effective in reducing
              the likelihood of repossession.

              We welcome the Government-backed mortgage safety nets including SMI and the
              Mortgage Rescue Scheme, which we believe to have played a significant role in
              preventing repossessions from spiralling out of control along with lender
              forbearance and the availability of advice. We believe that the Government should
              remain committed to providing these mortgage safety nets.

              There have been a number of reports investigating the effectiveness of recent
              measures in reducing the likelihood of repossession. A report by the Council of
              Mortgage Lenders and Shelter to the Home Finance Forum was instrumental in
              persuading Government to extend the measures beyond the October 2010
              comprehensive spending review. 18 The report states:

              “Discussions with lenders indicate that retaining these two measures is very
              important. They have a significant impact on the ability for lenders to offer
              forbearance for temporary difficulties.”

              The University of York report for the DWP “An evaluation of the January 2009
              arrangements for Support for Mortgage Interest” 19 is very helpful in setting out
              recommendations in relation to SMI.
18
     Document available on request.
19
     http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd5/rports2009-2010/rrep711.pdf

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The research concludes:

                        SMI contributes effectively to the sustainability of housing costs in the
                         short-term.
                        The shorter waiting time has helped the sustainability of owner-
                         occupation.
                        SMI is a potentially effective means of supporting short-term
                         unemployment without disincentivising work.
                        SMI payments are typically small compared with the size of other housing
                         benefits. It is a cost-effective means of supporting home-buyers who are
                         in temporary financial stress.
                        SMI will be less effective at sustaining owner-occupation in the longer-
                         term.

              The University of York follow-up report for the DWP “An evaluation of the January
              2009 and October 2010 arrangements for Support for Mortgage Interest: The role
              of lenders, money advice services, Jobcentre Plus and policy stakeholders” 20
              contained the following key findings.

              “Lenders, money advisers and key stakeholders interviewed confirmed that the
              temporary changes introduced in January 2009 were highly beneficial in terms of
              preventing possessions. The arrangements delivered help swiftly and effectively to
              borrowers and enabled lenders and money advisers to support borrowers
              effectively. They are equally clear that the reduction in the SIR introduced in
              October 2010 reverses many of the previous benefits. Lenders highlighted the
              already noticeable increases in shortfall payments and money advisers noted that
              more lenders were now less able or less willing to forbear. All respondents
              perceived that where borrowers’ receipt of SMI came to an end after two years
              (particularly in the absence of employment) it was unlikely that lenders would be
              able to support them further to sustain their homeownership.”

              The fall in repossessions was welcomed by the free-to-client advice sector in their
              report “Turning the tide Evidence from the free advice sector on mortgage and
              secured loan possession actions in England in July 2009.” 21

              “We suggest this is due not only to exceptionally low interest rates, but also to
              improved government safety nets, forbearance and support from lenders, and
              support from free housing and debt advice agencies.”

20
     http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd5/rports2011-2012/rrep740.pdf
21
     http://www.infohub.moneyadvicetrust.org/content_files/files/turning_the_tide_final.pdf

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The report also found:

“Low take-up of SMI amongst clients attending court (although this could indicate
SMI has worked to keep other borrowers out of court) and half the recorded
mortgage interest rates in our survey were higher than would be fully covered by
SMI payments. Participating organisations also see evidence in their wider advice
work of clients not claiming SMI because of poor information given by Jobcentre
Plus.”

Citizens Advice NI report that their ‘Dealing with debt’ project evidence 2006-2011
has shown a sharp increase in the mortgage debt figures, from £479,287 to
£9,038,508, an increase of 1,785.82% which far exceeds the increase in service
capacity over this period. This large figure encapsulates many larger Mortgage
Shortfalls and shows the increasing number of clients who bought when homes
were most expensive, who are struggling to meet repayments.

Case study from Citizens Advice NI
A Fermanagh client is in receipt of Jobseeker’s Allowance and SMI which is to be
reduced from £154.79 to £92.42 per week, they had a mortgage for £75,000 but
had to re-mortgage after a divorce. The client will therefore have a shortfall of
£200 per month which the client cannot afford as they only receive the single
person rate of JSA which is £65 and client’s mortgage is for £132,000.

We would suggest that there is a wealth of evidence already that the 13 week
waiting period and the £200,000 capital limit have been effective in reducing the
likelihood of repossession. There is further evidence that the October 2010
reduction in the standard interest rate has had a negative effect on this trend. It is
therefore vital that a solution is found as outlined in our response to question 9 of
the paper to enable actual mortgage interest rates to be paid to borrowers under
SMI.

General

Question 19 Do you have any suggestions for options for SMI in
            the medium and long term that have not been
            covered elsewhere in this document?

We would refer to our answer to question 4 above where we also make some
suggestions for the reductions in costs of SMI in the long term.

We would urge Government to undertake a full assessment of the options that
have been put forward in various discussion papers over the last few years.

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Ensuring the right protection is in place for those who are struggling to meet their
           mortgage repayments is vital. As noted, research shows that repossession rarely
           benefits anyone; lender, borrower and government all lose out as a result.
           Establishing a robust and fair safety net for vulnerable borrowers can therefore be
           to everyone’s benefit, and we must continue to work hard to achieve this goal.
           The report “Paying the mortgage? A systematic literature review of safety nets for
           home owners” 22 gives a useful overview of thinking on the subject.

           In 2004 Janet Ford’s report “Homeowners Risk and Safety-Nets Mortgage
           Payment Protection Insurance (MPPI) and beyond” 23 looked at the inadequacies
           of payment protection insurance and SMI and whether the issues raised should:

           “require borrowers to have in place a comprehensive safety-net as a condition of
           taking a mortgage.”

           We would draw your attention to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation report
           “Developing safety nets for homeowners”. 24

           We believe there could be considerable merit in a ‘Sustainable Home-Ownership’
           type scheme. We would welcome further exploration of such an initiative in the
           context of considerations around the replacement of SMI. One of the major
           benefits of such a scheme is that it would help those homeowners who do not
           currently qualify for SMI but are at risk of repossession due to short term income
           shocks. We would also suggest that had this scheme existed at the time of the
           downturn, the previous administration may not have felt compelled to introduce
           HMS.

           The Building Societies Association has released a series of reports on the
           subject. 25 We draw your attention to the first report “Long term safety nets to
           protect mortgage borrowers” 26

           We are wholly in agreement with Paul Broadhead’s statement in the Foreword that
           “…now is the time to carry out a holistic review of the safety nets…” (Our
           emphasis).

           The current safety net provision lacks coherence and is patchy. Moreover, due to
           intervening life events, people fall into mortgage arrears even during good
           economic times. It is now time to future-proof the help available for those in
           mortgage arrears and stitch together a comprehensive safety net.

22
   http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/chp/publications/PDF/mppireviewsum.pdf
23
   http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/housing/pdf/138157.pdf
24
   http://www.jrf.org.uk/publications/developing-safety-nets-home-owners
25
   http://www.bsa.org.uk/publications/industrypublications/long_term_safety_nets.htm
26
   http://www.bsa.org.uk/docs/LTSNs.pdf

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Money and benefits advice must be integral to the development of a robust safety
              net, both at the outset - to establish suitability (as with the Mortgage Rescue
              Scheme (MRS) and Homeowner Mortgage Support scheme (HMS)); and
              afterwards - to address other indebtedness and benefit entitlement.

              The latest BSA report “A joined-up approach to helping mortgage borrowers” 27
              makes a number of relevant recommendations.

              “SMI should be payable to all loans secured against the property and those
              outside the limits of the current scheme, with payments to these consumers
              offered as a grant with a charge secured against the property. The state could
              then recoup the money paid either as repayments from the consumer or through
              the proceeds of the sale of the property.”

              “SMI should be reformed to extend its availability, pay interest at the rate paid to
              the lender and offer support for those accessing it long-term.”

              “Government should pursue a drive to increase the take-up of insurance which
              would help to meet mortgage payments and the payments on other debts.”

              More widely we would also argue in favour of reform of the private rented sector
              as lack of rent controls means that the housing benefit system is effectively
              supporting private landlords who can profit from housing benefit revenue at the
              expense of tenants, Government and the taxpayer.

27
     http://www.bsa.org.uk/docs/publications/helping_mortgage_borrowers.pdf

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