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                                                                                                                                    years, she was paid less than her male       to get this picture made,” said Feld-

    Lilly
                                                                                                                                    colleagues for the very same work.           man. “Lilly has a remarkable personal
                                                                                                                                    Over the course of her career, she lost      story. As a woman who’s been work-
                                                                                                                                    more than $200,000 in salary, and            ing in Hollywood since my 20s and
                                                                                                                                    even more in pension and Social Se-          has endured gender discrimination
                                                                                                                                    curity benefits – losses she still feels     and exclusion in my industry in a

    Ledbetter
                                                                                                                                    today.”                                      very significant kind of way, I’ve been
                                                                                                                                       “I’m so proud of the Ledbetter            awakened and woke to what gender
                                                                                                                                    bill because it was sponsored and            discrimination and exclusion does for
                                                                                                                                    co-sponsored with Republicans and            women in employment. And so her
                                                                                                                                    Democrats and some Independents,”            story spoke to me on a personal level
                                                                                                                                    said Ledbetter.                              and a political level.”
                                                                                                                                       The law overturned the Su-                   Feldman has been speaking out
    A Fair Pay Icon                                                                                                                 preme Court’s decision in Ledbet-
                                                                                                                                    ter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber, and
                                                                                                                                                                                 against gender discrimination in
                                                                                                                                                                                 Hollywood for many years. “I’m so
                                                                                                                                    amended the Civil Rights Act of              grateful that within my own lifetime,
                                                                                                                                    1964, making each paycheck that              I see a change,” she said. Feldman
    By Jessica Mackin-Cipro                                                                                                         contains discriminatory compensa-            also noted that she will hire mostly
                                                                                                                                    tion a separate violation, no matter         women and people of color for the
                                                                                                                                    when the discrimination began.               heads of department on the film.
                                                                                                                                       Knowing she would not received               The film itself is completely inde-
                                                                                                                                    any additional payment from Good-            pendently financed, with over $10
                                                                                                                                    year, Lilly kept her fight alive for all     million raised in equity investment
                                                                                                                                    women in the workforce.                      and non-profit contributions. Unusu-
                                                                                                                                                                                 ally so for a feature motion picture,
                                                                                                                                    The Film                                     people who are interested in support-
                                                                                                                                                                                 ing the making of this film can make
                                                                                                                                    “I saw Lilly on television at the            tax deductible donations via The Film
                                                                                                                                    Democratic Convention in 2008 and            Collaborative by visiting thefilmcol-
                                                                                                                                    while I had heard her name before,           laborative.org/fiscalsponsorship/
                                                                                                                                    I really didn’t know her story and I’d       projects/lilly. To date, donors have
                                                                                                                                    never heard her speak. And when I            contributed over $1.5 million dollars,
                                                                                                                                    heard her speak with that beautiful          demonstrating the strong resonance
                                                                                                                                    Alabama mountain accent I was just           of the film’s message.
                                                                                                                                    driven to know more about her —                 The producers of the movie, in-
                                                                                                                                    I called her the very next day,” said        spired by Lilly’s persistence in work-
                                                                                                                                    Feldman, whose directing credits             ing for social change, have started a
                                                                                                                                    include “Criminal Minds” and “Blue           related social action project, +Rise.
                                                                                                                                    Bloods.”                                     The purpose is to elevate women in
                                                                                                                                       While many are familiar with Lil-         the workplace by making it equal,
                                                                                                                                    ly’s political achievements, the film        fair, and safe for all. They’re building
                                                                                                                                    aims to tell a heartbreaking family          partnerships with brands and leading
                                                                                                                                    narrative exhibiting the personal toll       non-profits working in these areas to
                                                                                                                                    it took for her to challenge a large         drive collaboration and make effec-
                                                                                                                                    corporation.                                 tive change.
                                                                                                                                       “The movie will not be for me, but           To celebrate the film, James Lane
                                                                                                                                    it will be for the young people and          Post partnered with hosts Christine
                                                                                                                                    the people out there today working           Prydatko, Jayne Baron Sherman,
                                                                                                                                    across this nation,” said Ledbetter.         Abigail Rose Solomon, Wendy Fe-
                                                                                                                                       “I saw that there was a way into          derman, and Kerianne Flynn to host
                                                                                                   Photo courtesy Jason Wallis      this film from a psychological point         a conversation with Ledbetter and
                                                                                                                                    of view as a political thriller, to really   Feldman to discuss the film. The

I
       t’s the story of a woman who         be truthful,” she said. “But I couldn’t      “I got 80 percent of my base pay, my       show the audience an exciting roller         event included a cocktail reception
       knows the true meaning of La-        because I still had a mortgage. I still      check was $28,000. The guy on the          coaster ride of euphoria and heart-          with dishes create by Lulu Kitchen &
       bor. The story of a women who        had car payments. I had kids in col-         day shift that took it got $85,000.”       break that this woman experienced            Bar’s Chef Philippe Corbet and man-
       fought not only for her right to     lege. I had bills to pay. I couldn’t quit.      She lost her case in the Supreme        and to tell it in a very Hollywood           aging partner Steven Jauffrineau.
fair pay, but for the rights of women       So I had to stay and work my 12-             Court with a 5 to 4 vote. It was ruled     commercial way like ‘Erin Brockov-              Ledbetter’s advice to women who
across this country.                        hour shift.”                                 she was not within the 180-day statute     ich’ or ‘Spotlight’ or any of the social     might be experiencing gender dis-
   Her name is Lilly Ledbetter.                Even though she was two years             of limitations for filing an equal-pay     justice dramas that have come before         crimination in the workplace?
   She took her fight for equal pay all     away from retirement, “I was enti-           lawsuit regarding pay discrimination.      us,” Feldman said. “My goal is to tell          “Be proactive,” she said. “Research
the way to the United States Supreme        tled to equal pay,” she said, knowing           “But Ruth Bader Ginsburg spoke          a story about a woman, who put her           that company and make sure you’re
Court and then to the United States         that John F. Kennedy had signed the          from the bench and spoke to Lilly          personal life on the line and the psy-       getting the rightful pay that you’re
Congress. The Lilly Ledbetter Fair          Equal Pay Act of 1963.                       directly and said, ‘Lilly, there is one    chological costs of fighting for justice     entitled to. Because once it’s gone,
Pay Act of 2009 was the first piece of                                                   more thing you can do. You can go          when you’re a small town Alabama             there’s not any way an individual can
legislation signed into law by Presi-       RBG to the Rescue                            to congress and tell your story,’” Feld-   wife, mother, and factory worker.”           get it back. It’s gone forever.” She
dent Barack Obama. She penned a                                                          man recalled.                                 In an aptly cast film, Feldman said       noted how crucial it is in terms of re-
book, “Grace and Grit,” that is now         She warned her family that she would            She was met by the American             that to have Patricia Clarkson play          tirement and social security.
used in many college curriculums.           file a charge with the U.S. Equal Em-        Civil Liberties Union, The National        Lilly Ledbetter, with Josh Lucas as             “I’ve learned that the average
And today a feature film about the          ployer Opportunity Commission in             Women’s Law Center, and several            her husband Charles, and Thomas              woman in this country, we outlive
life of Lilly Ledbetter is in the works.    Birmingham. The fight would be a             other organizations that wanted to         Sadoski as her attorney Jon Goldfarb         our spouses by 10 years. I’m now go-
In “LILLY,” directed by Rachel Feld-        long one. And it was. It took nine           help educate her and fund her trips        is “really a dream come true.”               ing into my 12th year as a widow. The
man, she will be played by Oscar-           years from start to finish. The lower        to Washington. At the time, she was           Ledbetter and Feldman both ex-            women don’t make near the money
nominated actress Patricia Clarkson.        federal court awarded her $3.8 mil-          also dealing with personal trauma,         pressed their excitement for the cast        the man might,” she said. As of 2020,
   But first, some backstory.               lion, though she would only be en-           her husband Charles, her high school       in place for the film.                       women earn 82 cents for every dollar
   Ledbetter worked for 19 years at         titled $60,000 of that.                      sweetheart, was terminally ill with           “The center of this movie is a love       a man earns, according to the Bureau
the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Com-                Goodyear appealed the verdict.            cancer.                                    story between Lilly and Charles,”            of Labor Statistics data.
pany in Alabama, as a night supervi-        And her case, with the help of young            “He wanted her to keep fighting         said Feldman.                                   “That’s the problem. Women are
sor. She took the job in 1979 at age        civil rights lawyer Jon Goldfarb, went       no matter what,” said Feldman. And            “The fella that’s playing my hus-         locked in these jobs,” she continued.
39 to help her family, who were strug-      all the way to the United States Su-         fight she did.                             band, I said, ‘All he needs is piercing      “They’re afraid to say something.
gling to make ends meet. She had            preme Court.                                    Since the Supreme Court verdict         blue eyes.’ And I understand Josh            They know that if they do they’ll lose
grown up in poverty in Possum Trot,            “They heard my case loud and              was made Ledbetter’s motto has             Lucas has that,” said Ledbetter of the       their jobs, and this is not right.”
Alabama, with no electricity or run-        clear,” said Ledbetter. “It was proven       been, “Everyday I must make a dif-         “Sweet Home Alabama” star.                      With Labor Day around the cor-
ning water, picking cotton for eight        there just like it was in the lower          ference for someone,” she said.               Clarkson brings to the role the ex-       ner, we recognize the contribution
cents per day, striving to be part of the   court — beyond a shadow of a doubt              Ledbetter spoke at the 2008             perience of growing up in the south          of all laborers in this country. The
middle class. She knew the value of         I had been discriminated against for         Democratic National Convention.            with her mother, Jackie Clarkson,            fight for equal pay is ongoing in the
not only a dollar, but also a penny.        no other reason than I was a female.”        And when President Obama signed            working in politics in New Orleans           workforce, and Ledbetter has spent
   When she was nearing retirement,            According to Ledbetter, to this day       the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of        for decades.                                 years leading the charge for positive
she describes receiving an anonymous        Goodyear claims she was a poor per-          2009 into law, cementing Lilly’s story        “She grew up in the South, so she’ll      change.
note alerting her that the salary of her    former. But the argument made by             in American history, he stated “Lilly      understand the southern drawl,” said            “She is a women of tremendous
male coworkers, who held the same           her and many others is: Why would            Ledbetter didn’t set out to be a trail-    Ledbetter.                                   grace, and tremendous grit,” said
position, was 40 percent higher than        they employ and promote a poor per-          blazer or a household name. She was           Clarkson “will bring both delicacy        Feldman.
her own paycheck.                           former over a 20-year period?                just a good hard worker who did her        and gravitas, which is exactly what             For Lilly, it’s knowing that, “When
   “I was devastated,” said Ledbetter.         “The men treated her abysmally,”          job – and did it well – for nearly two     Lilly has,” said Feldman.                    I’m gone I want the last thing they
“I was just humiliated.”                    said Feldman about Ledbetter’s time          decades before discovering that for           “It’s been a long journey for me          say is, ‘She did make a difference’.”
   “I didn’t know how many people in        at Goodyear. “This was hard, grueling,
the factory knew it,” she continued. “I     dirty work — she was always the first
didn’t know how many people were            one in and the last one out.”
laughing behind my back and making             “She suffered tremendous psycho-
a joke about it. I just could not believe   logical and emotional harassment,
that a major corporation like Good-         let alone sexual and physical harass-
year Tire & Rubber would be doing           ment — they slashed her tires, they
this to me and my family. This was          cracked her windshield, they filled
devastating because I was a middle-         her car with tobacco juice, they tried
class family. It was hard. It was really    to run her off the road, they threat-
hard. We went through tough times.          ened her family,” said Feldman. “And
My husband lost his job and with two        yet her desire to keep her family in
children it was really difficult.”          the middle class compelled her to be
   After working over a decade in a         able to surmount these awful circum-
position where she was often paid           stances until she found out they were
overtime, and her 401K and retire-          cheating her.”
ment were all based on her salary, she         The company offered her a buyout
knew she had to fight for the pay she       in 1998, which she took. “I should                                                                                                                     Lilly Ledbetter and
                                                                                                                                                                                                Rachel Feldman. Photo
had rightfully earned.                      have never taken the buyout. That’s                                                                                                                       courtesy "LILLY"
   “I just wanted to run and hide to        the worst mistake I made,” she said.
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September 2021                                                                                             James Lane Post                                                                                                                  5

The Show
Must Go On
Hamptons Fundraising
Season in a Fluctuating
Pandemic World
By Nicole Teitler                                                                                                                                                                                                   The Southampton Animal
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Shelter’s Unconditional
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Love Gala. Photo by Rob
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       t’s been an atypical events sea-        remained on par with previous years,              forcing the organization to forego               migrated from an indoor event to an              its 16-acre property, foregoing a sit-
       son, as non-profit organizations        as the event raised over $400,000 for             a traditional tented event. In turn,             outdoor soirée hosted by the Hampton             down dinner entirely as done in pre-
       were up against the challenges          cancer research. Wylie Tene, director             board members and donors alterna-                Racquet Club. Ratner expressed ahead             vious years. “Many people wanted to
       of fluctuating pandemic pro-            of marketing and communications                   tively hosted smaller viewing parties            of the event, “We are doing everything           be outdoors and not seated at a table.
tocols. Keeping up-to-date on brief-           for the Samuel Waxman Cancer Re-                  and the annual Bow Wow Meow                      we can to make sure our Back in Black            The energy was amazing and the
ings, while setting realistic expecta-         search Foundation, explained, “We                 Ball set a new record for net income             Benefit reassures our guests that it is          whole vibe felt over the top in the
tions, proved to be a challenge, but           were concerned that Covid-19 would                raised.                                          safe to come out and have a good time            most fun way,” said Matko Tomicic,
one worth navigating. Local charities          decrease attendance. But, as the event               Kristina Curatolo, chief development          while supporting an important cause.”            the LongHouse executive director.
were able to pivot in order to keep            approached, we heard from many at-                officer at ARF said,“We’re overwhelmed              Funds from annual summer ben-                    The Parrish Art Museum and
guests safe, while raising much-need-          tendees that they were excited to be              by the generosity of this community, its         efits on the East End, most of which             Watermill Center both spread out
ed funds.                                      attending again.”                                 love for ARF, and the thousands of ani-          did not happen or happened virtually             their annual summer events so that
   The South Fork Natural History                 Despite the concerns over atten-               mals saved by our work.”                         in 2020, oftentimes make up a large              they could host multiple events
Museum (SOFO) remained diligent                dance, and the logistical complica-                  Similarly, Stony Brook Southamp-              portion of each local non-profit’s               with smaller groups.
during the weeks preceding their gala,         tions, confidence regarding overall               ton Hospital’s 63rd annual Summer                year-round operating budget.                        The reimagined annual event at
as attendees were advised through              turnout remained high.                            Party “Gala In Our Gardens,” was                    In lieu of its SummerFest Gala                the Parrish Art Museum featured
both invitations and email blasts that            The Southampton Animal Shelter                 held with a “host at home” format                altogether, the Southampton Arts                 three events over three days: a
proof of vaccination or negative Co-           Foundation’s Unconditional Love                   again this year, with each event ca-             Center opted for smaller events                  dance party, dinner and cocktails,
vid-19 tests would be required upon            Gala intentionally undersold tick-                tered by Elegant Affairs and deliv-              throughout the season to ensure the              and a family party and raised over
arrival. To help expedite the check-           ets so that guests could feel prop-               ered to each host’s door.                        safety of guests and provide a more              $1 million for the museum.
in process on the day of, guests were          erly spaced from one another. Kate                   Throughout it all, the Hamptons               intimate setting.                                   The Watermill Center held
provided the option to upload their            McEntee, director of animal relations             community continues to come to-                     “These smaller events have actually           CROSSROADS, a summer festival
vaccine cards directly onto a site.            at SASF noted, “Guests were enthu-                gether. Julie Ratner, co-founder and             proven to be quite the success with              as a week-long gathering to consider
   “From the moment we decided to              siastic as our dogs made their way to             chairwoman of The Ellen Herman-                  guests having a great time while also            the meaning of ritual, healing, and
host our benefit, we made the safety           the stage for a dog parade … and we               son Foundation observed, “My sense               feeling safe,” Tom Dunn, executive               hope at this moment in time, led by
of all of our guests, staff, and volun-        have been setting up official meet and            is that there is more kindness in the            director of SAC, said. “We have been             Carrie Mae Weems, in collaboration
teers a priority. Our guests were de-          greets at the shelter with those who              air. I have noticed that people seem             incredibly fortunate to have a dedi-             with Robert Wilson.
lighted to know that their well-being          met pets they want to adopt.”                     to try to comfort and encourage each             cated and generous group of indi-                   Guild Hall celebrated its 90th an-
was of utmost importance to us, and               It was a season of adaption as well            other as they navigate the challenges            viduals that have long supported our             niversary with cocktails on the water
our turnout was wonderful,” said Di-           as adoption. As part of its Forever               of living with Covid.”                           institution and continue to do so.”              and dinner under an open-air tent.
ana Aceti, SOFO’s director of devel-           Home campaign the Animal Res-                        While the 26th Annual Ellen’s Run                LongHouse’s SAY YES gala cu-                  The event raised over $800,000 in
opment.                                        cue Fund of the Hamptons (ARF)                    surpassed predictions, the organization’s        rated a new type of experience as                support of Guild Hall’s year-round
   The annual Hamptons Happening               campus has been under construction,               gala, held at the tail end of summer,            musicians were situated throughout               interdisciplinary programs.

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#YouBelong
A Day of Inclusion &
Connections in Water Mill

                                                                                      Chelsea Toler, Netta Jenkins, Nadya Okamoto,
                                                                                      Kimberly Hatchet, Olivia Dell. Photo by Ezgi Uzun

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               n Saturday, August 14,    paving the way to a more equitable          to help others that are less privileged . .                                             Bridget LeRoy, Aiyana Smith-Williams,
               in Water Mill, Fyli — a   and sustainable future,” said Dell.         . Giving back is huge for me,” said As-                                                     Minerva Perez, Patricia Assui Reed.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Photo by Ezgi Uzun
               female founders mas-         The panel included Netta Jenkins,        sui Reed. “With Matriark we are sup-
               termind with a focus      the co-founder of Dipper and VP             porting women-owned businesses . . .
on creating an ecosystem of support      Global Inclusion of Unqork; Nadya           The idea is to help them thrive but to
for leaders — brought together a di-     Okamoto, the founder of August and          also give back and donate to women
verse group of community activists,      PERIOD; and Kimberly Hatchett,              and girls’ focused communities.”
next gen impact experts, creatives,      the executive director, private wealth         “I focus on indigenous communi-
and entrepreneurs for an event titled    advisor at Morgan Stanley, Private          ties whether it be my nation or oth-
#YouBelong, to celebrate diversity       Wealth Management.                          ers indigenous communities,” said
and inclusion, while rebuilding cul-        “This was such a beautiful and in-       Smith-Williams. “The Shinnecock
ture and reframing new mindsets.         spiring event to join — especially as       Nation is the only federally recog-
   Along with partners Nova Im-          my first in-person panel since the          nized tribe on Long Island and es-
pact and James Lane Post, attendees      global pandemic. The last year has          sentially what that means is that the
were given the opportunity to share      been one of so much overdue cultural        United States recognizes the nation
their unique perspectives and to         reckoning with the need for further         on a government-to-government
form new friendships and partner-        diversity and inclusion in all indus-       basis, but there are a lot of other in-
ships. The Fyli community of female      tries, and we’ve all been thrust into       digenous people on Long Island that
entrepreneurs met with guests from       our own journeys of un-learning and         don’t have that same privilege . . . I
world-renowned businesses, angel         learning,“ said Okamoto. “We often          really try to bring voice to those na-
investors, venture capital funds, and    talk about how we can create a more         tions, because I understand what it
family offices.                          thoughtful future of women’s leader-        means to be a state recognized tribe.”
   “Our goal was to bring a diverse      ship and empowered young women,                “The work that OLA is doing is
event to the Hamptons as it is known     and being on this panel and at the          work that benefits and strengthens
as a ‘privileged’ location and make      event felt like a real step and experi-     the entire East End,” said Perez. “We
sure there was ample representation      ence of that future.”                       do focus on five East End towns.
between cultures, ages, and indus-          “I look around this event and see        Since the pandemic we’ve found
tries,” said Jaclynn Brennan, the co-    such a diverse crowd in the Hamp-           that there’s a lot of work that we                                                                         Photo by Ezgi Uzun
founder of Fyli.                         tons. It is my responsibility to press      didn’t even realize we could do that
   “We were honored to spend the day     that elevator button to see more            we’re doing in relation to health eq-
celebrating with such an inspiring       people that look like me sit with me        uity, mental health, and mental health
group of female entrepreneurs, cre-      in the work place and have a voice in       support for adolescents.”
atives, and those looking to support     this world,” said Kimberly Hatchett.           “The day led to conversations that
the day’s mission. Attendees were           “My experience as a speaker for Fyli     are important both globally and local-
able to make meaningful connections      was absolutely amazing. The audience        ly. Each panelist is a leader within this
through powerful conversations, all      were engaged and empowered. This            community and is working toward a
while celebrating community, art, and    event was intimate which allowed            more inclusive tomorrow,” said Jessica
togetherness,” said Christine Prydat-    for many to feel comfortable to make        Mackin-Cipro, editor and co-publish-
ko, the event host and co-publisher of   meaningful relationships. I have nev-       er of James Lane Post. “We want to
James Lane Post.                         er attended an event that embodied          highlight those giving back and push-
   The event kicked off with a guided    love and belonging. Every single per-       ing for positive change, and we hope
meditation by Donna D’Cruz, fol-         son I interacted with spewed love and       to continue these conversations.”
lowed by the “Great Awakening            support,” said Jenkins.                        Throughout the day guests en-
Panel” made up of strong, empow-            The panelists shared deeply per-         joyed food from Calissa Restaurant
ered women focused on how to sup-        sonal stories about how they over-          in Water Mill, beverages from Vide,           Photo by Lisa Tamburini
port other under-represented found-      came their own challenges and strug-        Montaukila, Swoon, Voss, Troop, La
ers. The moderators, Olivia Dell and     gles, how they experienced hate and         Crema, and picnic style seating by
Chelsea Toler, the co-founders of        prejudice in their own personal and         Wisp and Wild. Isaac Boots’ Torch’d
NOVA Impact, led the panel discus-       professional lives and how they re-         Shoppe provided an outdoor lounge,
sion around mentorship, tips, and        frame those experiences to fuel their       complete with Out East Rosé, with
tricks on how to inspire other trail-    careers and advocate for others.            a meet and greet with the celeb-
blazers and what challenges and fears       James Lane Post hosted the panel         rity fitness trainer, who has recently
they have faced in the workforce.        discussion “Working Toward A More           launched the East End Fund for
   “As a woman in the investment         Inclusive Tomorrow” with leaders            Children, partnering with seven local
space, I’m passionate about demys-       within the Hamptons community in-           non-profits that help children.
tifying what it means to find agency     cluding Minerva Perez, the executive           Following the panel discussions
in investment and beyond. We struc-      director of OLA of Eastern Long             guests enjoyed a happy hour hosted
tured the event and our panel to focus   Island, Aiyana Smith-Williams, the          by Pomp & Whimsey. Throughout
on understanding how these incred-       executive director of the Shinnecock        the day a Garden of Wonders host-
ible leaders in business, who happen     Indian Nation, and Patricia Assui           ed activations by Sundays Nail Bar,
to be female, found agency and what      Reed, the founder of Matriark in Sag        Mind Body Soul Market, Nannacay,
they’re doing to ensure that the path    Harbor. The panel was led by James          Musings Magazine, and Sara Joy.
to leadership remains clear for future   Lane Post’s co-publisher and manag-         Artists Amanda Flowers and Listen
generations. We know that the infra-     ing editor Bridget LeRoy.                   displayed artwork for guests.
structure of society has perpetuated        “No matter where you are in life you        Sponsors included Sara Joy, Vide,                                             Olivia Dell, Summer YL, Kate Kelley, Christine
                                                                                                                                                                  Prydatko, Jessica Mackin-Cipro, Jaclynn Brennan,
an unjust distribution of agency and     should try to use your privilege, even if   Omnifique, Marco, and Studio                                                             Catherine Sypert. Photo by Ezgi Uzun
will continue to highlight outliers      it’s a small amount that you have, to try   Misfit.

         James Lane                                                                                              Editor’s Letter                                        The August
                                                                                                                                                                        issue of James
                                                                                                                                                                        Lane Post.

                                             POST
                                                                                                                 W        e’d first like to open this Labor Day issue
                                                                                                                          note with gratitude to all of those work-
                                                                                                                 ing on the East End this summer. While many
                                                                                                                 people, especially within the understaffed hospi-
                         Co-Publisher/Editor Jessica Mackin-Cipro                                                tality industry, may not have Labor Day off, and
                         Co-Publisher/Marketing Director Ty Wenzel
                                                                                                                 Tumbleweed Tuesday may seem like a thing of
                Co-Publisher/SVP of Business Development Christine Prydatko
                                                                                                                 the past, we want to acknowledge the hard work
                       Co-Publisher/Managing Editor Bridget LeRoy
                                                                                                                 done by those during a summer like no other.
                                         Contributors
                 Zachary Weiss, Nicole Teitler, Heather Buchanan, Joseph Cipro,                                  For this issue’s cover we feature Lilly Ledbetter, an American fair pay icon,
                       James J. Mackin, Jenna Mackin, Amy Kalaczynski,                                           and an all-around empowering woman in American history. Lilly is 83 and
                      Kelli Delaney Kot, Lisa Frohlich, Susan Rockefeller,                                       has been fighting against gender discrimination for decades. James Lane Post’s
             Tracey Toomey McQuade, Nick Norcia, Bill McCuddy, Georgia Warner                                    #YouBelong event (story above) worked to amplify Lilly’s message, aiming to level the
                                                                                                                 playing field for female entrepreneurs and to promote inclusivity and diversity in business
                                 Contributing Photographers                                                      as well as on the East End. A more inclusive Hamptons is what we hope and strive for.
                     Lisa Tamburini, Rob Rich, Irene Tully, Jan Marie Mackin,
                                    Richard Lewin, Jeff Gillis                                                   We hope you enjoy our latest issue and we wish you a wonderful end to summer 2021.

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September 2021                                                                                                                               James Lane Post                                                                                                                                                               7

Dede Gotthelf
                                                                                                                                in front of all those young applicants
                                                                                                                                and their parents. The pranks were al-                                                                                                                                          Dede at
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Williams
                                                                                                                                most endless. The support was not yet                                                                                                                                           College.
                                                                                                                                in place. And the determination to be
                                                                                                                                anything I wanted was heightened by
                                                                                                                                the experience.
A Look Back at the                                                                                                                 Fast forward to senior year in col-
                                                                                                                                lege. There were dozens of recruit-

Journey of a Female                                                                                                             ers on campus seeking to interview
                                                                                                                                well-educated Williams graduates.

Banker, Broker, Builder,
                                                                                                                                I had hoped to be in advertising or
                                                                                                                                publishing. The interviews were with
                                                                                                                                banks, electric companies, and insur-
& Hotelier                                                                                                                      ance firms. Chase Manhattan Bank
                                                                                                                                offered $200 per year more than Ci-
                                                                                                                                tibank so I accepted that offer and
   Inspired by fair pay icon Lilly Led-                      do anything we wanted. There were                                  entered the Global Credit Train-
better, James Lane Post has launched a                       no limits to the female brain. I be-                               ing Program with 200 mostly single
series that will focus on female business                    came a believer.                                                   trainees between 20 and 30 years old,
leaders within the East End commu-                              Forward to college. The applica-                                studying together to learn banking                                a $1 billion portfolio of urban renewal                            daily, I decided to make an offer. The
nity, as a way to tell the stories of the                    tions included the requisite question:                             and finance.                                                      projects. To gather enough monies                                  offer was accepted with a small down
obstacles they’ve faced and overcome,                        “Why do you want to attend?” For                                      I believe there were around 15                                 to buy a co-op, a car, and a cat, I left                           payment and a big handshake. The
and to learn about the trails they con-                      Williams College, which was just                                   women. Towards the end of the six                                 government to become Director of                                   rest is history.
tinue to blaze in their own professional                     going co-ed that year, I took a black                              months we were asked to provide                                   Investment Sales at Julien Studley Inc.                               From a short term fix-and-flip ini-
careers. Our first up in our series is Dede                  magic marker and wrote across the                                  preferences for assignments. I spoke                                 From Studley, I was offered the                                 tial concept, to 23 years at the helm of
Gotthelf, the owner of Southampton                           middle of page one: “After eight years                             fluent French and asked for Paris.                                job from heaven, to start a New York                               the 90 room Southampton Inn with
Inn.                                                         in a single sex school, I want to attend                           However, there was a “girl” in France                             City office for a Washington D.C.                                  its gardens, lawns, pool, tennis, con-

I
                                                             a multi-sex college.” I was accepted.                              who didn’t do well so that wouldn’t be                            developer. But with the Washingto-                                 ference, banquet, and dining facilities,
      began in an apartment in                                  And so it began. I was one of 10                                possible. I opted for six more months                             nian on the verge of bankruptcy, we                                and three buildings of commercial
      Manhattan during the era just                          women in my class the first year. We                               of training and entered the Real Es-                              separated the projects, and I started                              and retail on an adjacent parcel, life
      slightly after Mrs Meisel. I                           were housed in a “charming” historic                               tate Department construction lend-                                Catcove Group Limited. Since the                                   pivoted from Manhattan to a rural
      too had an Aunt Rose with a                            elderly fixer-upper white house with                               ing group — to come full circle back                              late 1980s, Catcove has morphed into                               lifestyle on the Eastern End of Long
sprawling West End Avenue apart-                             a porch, stairs, bath tubs on legs and                             to furnishing the New York Times                                  Catcove South Cove Corp, a water-                                  Island.
ment and a library of hand painted                           faucets with separate hot and cold                                 floorplans from my youth.                                         front building at Battery Park City;                                  As of this moment, there are plans
plates in the 20-volume Book of                              taps. It was around a mile away from                                  One particularly scary moment                                  Catsheep Corp, a redevelopment in                                  pending for expanding the inn to 140
Knowledge.                                                   the assigned eating house — for-                                   was getting off a plane in Georgia                                Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn; River-                                   units with one- and two-bedroom
  My earliest memory of answering                            merly known as “fraternity” which                                  to complete a foreclosure on a strip                              side Catwalk, Southampton Catcove,                                 high-end luxury suites with kitchens
the question “what do you want to be                         were banned along with the advent                                  shopping center. There were men                                   Catcove Corp, and then some.                                       and private balconies and porches,
when you grow up?” was in the back                           of women. These were the early years                               with trucks and guns waiting for the                                 It was an historic movement, a                                  some overlooking an Olympic lap
of an Oldsmobile 98, driving down                            of assimilation of “girls” into the for-                           Chase banker to step off that plane. I                            swelling of sentiment and confidence                               pool. Approvals for this are pend-
Fifth Avenue. It is possible that Aunt                       merly “male” bastion of higher educa-                              did … and they were still waiting for                             that women could do anything they                                  ing. I believe it is my civic duty to as-
Rose was in front with my parents. I                         tion.                                                              the banker. I ran into airport, picked                            set their minds to. Even banking, fi-                              sist with housing in the community.
unhesitatingly responded “a bride.”                             During that first week I would ask                              up the rental car, and headed out. The                            nance, construction, real estate devel-                            With experience and perhaps capa-
  During elementary school, I read                           directions to a building and would be                              men with guns were still waiting for                              opment, hotel management.                                          bility, I do hope to be able to amelio-
the New York Times every Sun-                                pointed to the opposite end of cam-                                that banker. I have to say, there are                                What drew me to the hospitality                                 rate some of the housing crisis. Even
day and loved furnishing the floor                           pus. I sat in a u-shaped seminar where                             some positive things about being a                                business? I have to admit that most of                             if just a small bit.
planned apartments in the real estate                        no “man” would take the seat on my                                 female banker.                                                    this was random. Hospitality was as                                   For female entrepreneurs, my rec-
section. At that point I wanted to be                        left or right. The professor walked in                                After banking, I went on to bu-                                result of a local broker who asked me                              ommendation is to follow your pas-
an architect. My Upper East Side                             with his giant dog and declared that:                              reaucrat, broker, builder, and then …                             to put together an offering plan for                               sion. Be sure to begin with the eco-
school, the all-girls Brearley School,                       “this seminar is too big. There are 19                             hotelier. It has been, and continues to                           the Southampton Inn and its adja-                                  nomics. Finance and banking proved
mission was to prepare students to do                        of you … plus her.”                                                be, a journey. Certainly had not been                             cent International Plaza commercial                                invaluable in meandering down my
everything. We learned how to speak                             I was asked by admissions to take a                             planned nor pre-ordained.                                         complex. I did. And then received an                               career path. And never be afraid to
Chaucerian English, Latin, sciences,                         group of “girl” applicants on a campus                                Half of the Chase real estate de-                              acceptance letter for my then four-                                pivot. Life tends to throw things at us.
and grammar, and were told over and                          tour. Each pre-selected dorm room                                  partment went to the New York State                               year old to go to kindergarten. Think-                             Try to catch the ones that inspire you.
over that ladies could go on to be and                       was opened by a naked student …                                    Urban Development Corp to oversee                                 ing both children would be in school                               They likely can be caught and steered.

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8                                                                                              James Lane Post

Michelle
Brooks
A Fork In The
Road: ‘Hitler’s
Tasters’ Comes
to Guild Hall
By Bridget LeRoy

                                                       Michelle Kholos Brooks

I
      magine that every time you pick up a           ers would have been. Their dreams and desires
                                                                                                            Hannah Mae Sturges, Hallie
      fork, it could be your last meal? And          would be the same. I wanted the girls of “Hit-         Griffen, MaryKathryn Kopp,
      imagine that you are forced to pick up         ler’s Tasters” to feel very present and very alive.    Kaitlin Paige Longoria. Photo
                                                                                                            by Zach Griffin
      that fork, no matter what.                     I did not want them to be sepia-toned people
                                                     in history.
Then imagine that you are a teenaged girl, with
all of those possible attendant food issues that     It also bears mentioning that I just happened
might come with that, and you’ll have the bar-       to be writing this piece during the 2016 elec-
est inkling of what “Hitler’s Tasters” is about.     tion. The dangerous rhetoric being spewed was
                                                     in perfect parallel to that of the 1930s and ’40s
And it all really happened.                          in Germany. The more I worked on this play,
                                                     the more critical, relevant, and contemporary
Kind of.                                             it felt. Let’s put it this way — the quotes were
                                                     all over the news. I never actually had to quote
“Hitler’s Tasters,” which will be presented at       Hitler.
Guild Hall September 9 through 11, is a dark
comedy by Michelle Kholos Brooks (yes, Mel           It feels a little like “Waiting for
is her father-in-law, Max is her husband) about      Godot.” Did you base your style
four young German women who had the                  on Beckett and the minimalist-
“honor” of being chosen as Adolf Hitler’s food       absurdists? What style was
tasters.                                             your inspiration?

Based on true events in history, with anachro-       A few people have mentioned that to me and,           and director, Sarah Norris. I’m very fortunate       When New Light Theatre Project first brought
nistic shades of 2020, “Hitler’s Tasters” — win-     while I’m deeply flattered by the comparison, it      to have worked with this cast and crew in            this play to the city, it was through a residency
ner of the Susan Glaspell Award and Best of          never consciously entered my mind. But there          New York, Chicago, Edinburgh, and LA, and            in a teeny tiny (but wonderful) theater in the
the Fringe at Edinburgh (the gold standard in        is, in fact, the element of waiting — in the case     I’m thrilled that they all agreed to get back        West Village. By the time we caught on, the
new works) — explores how these girls navi-          of the girls, waiting to see if they are going to     on stage at Guild Hall. I have had some ter-         three-week residency was over. After so much
gate friendship, patriotism, and poison during       die after every meal. So, I got to explore how        rific theater experiences, but this is a group of    success in four other cities, New Light is trying
the Third Reich.                                     young women would fill up time in that limbo          magical unicorns. No exaggeration.                   to get this production back to New York in the
                                                     state. It is truly amazing how much drama and                                                              spring. I know they’re fielding interest from
The idea for the play came about when Brooks         comedy can come out of waiting. When you’re           Another member of your fam-                          producing partners and possible investors now.
heard tell of the Fuhrer’s real food tasters;        bored and scared and you can’t lash out at the        ily is well-known for includ-                        New Light is an unusually brave and inspired
young women chosen to die for their country.         monster in charge, people will, unfortunately,        ing Hitler in his works — your                       theater company, and their extraordinary work
Margeret Wölk, the one survivor, began to            turn on each other.                                   father-in-law, Mel Brooks, who                       deserves to be seen.
speak of it in 2012, when she was 95 years old.                                                            wrote “The Producers” and the
She passed two years later.                          Without giving too much                               song “Springtime for Hitler.”                        I always ask this one — what is
                                                     away, what is true and what is                        (James Lane Post interviewed                         it like with two writers in the
We had a chance to catch up with Michelle            dramatic license, besides the                         the show’s director and chore-                       house?
Kholos Brooks and discuss her work, her pro-         anachronisms?                                         ographer, Susan Stroman, in
cess, and her family.                                                                                      its August issue.) What kind of                      For us it’s great. My husband and I write very,
                                                     To my knowledge, there is very little informa-        feedback or advice did you get                       very different kinds of stories, so we are great
First of all, how did you come                       tion about the actual tasters. My research was        from him (if any) about how to                       readers for each other. We know that if we can
by the information about Hit-                        based on articles published in 2013 about a           inject comedy into a very seri-                      make the other love our stories (him: zombies,
ler’s tasters? And what made                         German woman named Margot Wölk who, in                ous situation?                                       me: adolescent girl relationships) then we are
you want to write about this                         her nineties, came forward with her extraordi-                                                             onto something good.
little-known part of history?                        nary story of being one of Hitler’s food tasters.     Mel and I have an agreement that I have Hit-
                                                     According to her there were 15 tasters — all          ler on loan for this show. But in all seriousness,   Also, we both get that we need time alone to
It was an absolute fluke. I happened to be at a      German, by the way — how crazy is that?               I didn’t tell him anything about the play until      create. We trade off dealing with home stuff
war museum in Indianapolis with my writ-             But for the purposes of this play, I focused on       he came to the first reading. He’s been incred-      and our kid’s school stuff depending on who is
ing partner at the time. As we looked around         a small group to explore personal stories and         ibly supportive ever since. He hasn’t given me       on a deadline or in a groove. I am very aware
a WWII exhibit, he said to me, very casually,        ever-shifting relationships.                          any direct advice about comedy, but he has           of how lucky I am to have a partner that values
“Did you read that story about the young                                                                   always said this, “If you’re going to climb up to    my work as much as I value his.
German women who were Hitler’s food tast-            I have been asked how I predicted that events         the bell, ring it!” So, whenever I worried that
ers?” And then he kind of walked away as if          in the play would transpire in current culture        I would offend or go too far in this current         You have a son who’s around
he hadn’t just changed my life. “Wait,” I said,      — for instance, how did I know that children          culture, I remembered the bell. He helped me         the same age as the girls in the
“Halt. Reverse. What did you just say?”              would be separated from their parents? When           realize that as long as the moments are honest,      play — what has his reaction
                                                     I wrote the play, I had no idea that this would       boundaries are there to be pushed.                   been to this work, or the reac-
Everything that pushes my buttons of concern         happen at our borders. But I did know that it                                                              tion of other teens?
is encapsulated in this story; the way society       had happened in history. I didn’t have to be          The one direct piece of advice did Mel give
treats young women as expendable; the way            clairvoyant to know what takes place when             me — it was an order, really, was to keep the        My son, who is 16, has been terrific. He’s very
children are used as tools and shields of war;       cruelty is in charge.                                 title. He said it would scare some producers,        honest about what scares him and what makes
the complicated relationships young women                                                                  but that it was more important to state exactly      him laugh about the play. He’s got quite an
have with themselves and each other — not            I know this was recognized at                         what the play was and to own it. He was cor-         interest in history, so it’s sparked great conver-
to mention the complicated relationship that         Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Can                        rect on all accounts.                                sations and interesting questions.
young women have with food! And the idea of          you tell me about that?
young women stuck in a room together wait-                                                                 Side note: Susan Stroman came to an early            I’ve been very pleased by the reaction by
ing to see if they were going to live or die after   Edinburgh Fringe was an absolute dream! The           show in our tiny New York theater and gener-         other teens and young adults. I’ve been
every meal? Could there be a riper situation         all-female cast and crew went there with abso-        ously gave us a marvelous quote. She said            told they especially appreciate the anach-
for drama and (dark) comedy? I mean, isn’t           lutely no idea of what we were getting into.          “Hitler’s Tasters” was “One of the best eve-         ronisms in the play, because it makes them
adolescence hard enough?                                                                                   nings I’ve spent in the theater in a long time. It   feel like these girls could be their friends
                                                     We were warned that, with over 4000 shows,            was interesting, entertaining, and it made you       and contemporaries. I’ve also had parents
You chose an anachronistic                           our little production would likely fall through       think.”                                              and teachers tell me that they brought kids
retelling, with selfies, dancing                     the cracks. But we started getting buzz before                                                             back to see it so they could use the play as a
to modern music, and so on.                          we even got to Edinburgh, and we ended up             What do you hope the future                          jumping-off point to talk about World War
How did you get that idea? And                       with a 100 percent sold-out run, turning away         will bring for “Hitler's Tasters”?                   II. I could not have hoped for more gratify-
what are you trying to achieve?                      people at every show. We were even voted one                                                               ing feedback.
                                                     of the 10 Best of Fringe by The Stage.                I have been approached about turning this play
Times change, people don’t. One day I                                                                      into a series, a book, a graphic novel, a screen-
watched a group of young women take photos           At face value, it helped to have an extremely         play — all the things you can imagine. But if I      To get tickets for “Hitler’s Tasters,” visit the Guild
of themselves in pursuit of the perfect selfie,      winning cast of young women. But what I               could choose just one, it would be for this very     Hall website atguildhall.org. To learn more about
and I realized that those women — those girls,       don’t think people expected was the depth of          production to get back on stage in New York          Michelle Kholos Brooks and her other works, visit
really — were likely the same age that the tast-     talent and the breadth of bravery by our actors       City.                                                michellekholosbrooks.com.
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September 2021                           James Lane Post                                                      9

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Lilly Ledbetterp. 4- POST - September 2021
10                                                                                          James Lane Post

Alex
Rosenberg
The Art of Living to 103
By Bill McCuddy

A
             lex Rosenberg calls it      What do you collect?
             the way he sees it. And
             he’s seen a lot. He di-     I’m a very bad example because
             vides his time between      I only took art from the people I
the Upper East Side of Manhattan         worked with or bought art from.
and a waterfront art-filled Water        I was too close to them. People
Mill home that he shares with his        always ask “Why don’t you have a
devoted wife of 44 years, Carole.        major piece of work from Alexan-
That luggage by the driveway is a        der Calder?” I was so friendly with
sculpture. He talks about his friend     him. I never thought he would die!
Salvador Dali. His only “Sandy”          I never thought any of these people
Calder — another pal — is a rug in       would die.
the TV room.
                                         Well, that’s easy for you
He regrets not buying more of his        at 103 because you’ve
famous friends’ work. But other than     outlived them all.
that he’s a man of few regrets. Or
apologies. As we sit overlooking Me-     (Laughs) Nevertheless I was so sur-
cox Bay he takes calls, checks emails,   prised one day when Calder’s daugh-
and is genuinely concerned that I        ter called and said Sandy couldn’t
don’t require coffee or even a water.    have lunch with us because he had
If it’s his water, maybe we should all   died. How was that possible?                                                                                                              Alex Rosenberg, May
be drinking it. Here is 103 years of                                                                                                                                               25, 2009. Portrait by
                                                                                                                                                                                      Michael Halsband
wisdom.                                  But they don’t die if the
                                         art lives on.
How has the art world
changed in the 80-plus                   Ah, only some cases. I can name an         threw a brick through the window.        New York. So that caused a number        Will there always be art?
years you’ve been in-                    endless number of important artists        Now he’s got a story.                    of artists to come out here. The other
volved in it?                            who have very little reputation today.                                              thing was the railroad coming out        Yes. It’s a basic form of expression.
                                                                                    But you contend that                     here. The rich came out and certain      The form will change. And unfortu-
Up until World War II, art in the        Have you ever been                         a story like that cut                    art schools opened out here. Wil-        nately art has become fashionable.
United States was basically the          fooled by a fake?                          against his talent and                   liam Merritt Chase opened a school       Everything now has been sped up.
property of the rich. Commercializa-                                                his credibility.                         in Southampton. Maxfield Parrish         So that in my lifetime I have seen so
tion existed, but it wasn’t known to     I would say very often. It’s impos-                                                 came out here. Simultaneously the        many famous artists forgotten. But
the middle class. The middle class       sible to avoid it. I’m supposedly an       It created a situation that for years    impoverished artists in New York         the production of art will always be
collected art merely for decora-         expert on Dali. The fake Dalis that        hurt his reputation. The academics       could afford land out here. It was       there because the people who pro-
tion with perhaps the exception of       have been coming onto the market           of his period saw him as a clown.        selling for nothing. And there were      duce it, whether they are influence
ancestral paintings. They were into      are so well done that it’s becoming        Not as an important artist. So in the    barns and homes that farmers had         by money or not, have something to
music, books, but fine art belonged      increasingly difficult for me to be        universities they didn’t teach who       given up.                                say.
to the elite.                            certain.                                   Dali was. He could put on the most
                                                                                    ridiculous acts.                         Perfect example is Jackson Pollock       Why do you keep work-
After World War II the American          When I first started, and the pre-                                                  who paid $1500 for a house with 20       ing? You don’t have to.
artists returned and recaptured the      ponderance of the work was real and        And you were his                         acres. Also European artists spent
art market. European artists returned    fakes were coming onto the market          wingman.                                 summers out here. Guild Hall did         I like it! One, I’m able to work be-
to Europe. And out of that came          it was relatively easy. Statistically it                                            an excellent show about it a few         cause I’m in good shape and two, I’m
“Pop Art.” And so for the first time     was in my favor. As time has gone          We went to Maxim’s one day for           years ago that included the work of      in good shape because I work. You
the middle class was interested. We      on you must remember the number            lunch and he says he wants his table.    all these foreign artists. Word got      have your choice. (Laughs)
used to joke and say they “followed      of correct Dalis is a finite thing. The    He never made a reservation so           around that you could live out here
the advice of their dentist.” They had   number of fakes continues to grow          there are people sitting at what he      for cheap.                               Did you have any idea
no one else to go to. Gradually, over    until we’re going to reach a day           called his table. So they give us the                                             you were going to last
the years, art became commercial-        shortly that almost every piece we         equivalent table but on the other side   Those were the days.                     this long?
ized. But the upper class was always     see on the market is fake. Because         of the room. And Dali is mumbling
commercializing art. The sales were      the real ones have already been ab-        and gets in an argument with the         I would say 1960 was the high            No, I never thought about it. And
from one rich person to another rich     sorbed into collections. And qualita-      waiter and we leave. And I realized      watermark. Almost every important        then one day I woke up and said “I’m
person.                                  tively the fakes are fantastically well    he didn’t want lunch he wanted to        artist you can think of came out here.   not dead.”
                                         done.                                      make a scene at Maxim’s. I wasn’t his
Now we have an art market that is                                                   only sidekick but I was his favorite
basically going downhill. Because        What was the greatest                      one for about five years.
the middle class is gradually losing     misconception about
its wealth and is selling off what it    Dali?                                      What’s the secret to
owns. At the upper level where we                                                   long life?
have artists like Basquiat, de Koon-     That he was a clown. He was a bril-
ing, the sales again are being made      liant man, beyond belief. He made a        I guess there are several. One, the
by the very wealthy. We are shocked      bad decision. But maybe it was right       right genes. And two, the right wife.
when we hear how much people             at the time he lived. He felt PR was       I can say sincerely I wouldn’t be here
are paying to acquire art. What had      more important than his ability.           if it wasn’t for my wife Carole’s ef-
originally been a cultural tool is now                                              forts. When I had pneumonia at 98
an economic tool.                        He was way ahead of his                    the doctors gave me up. She stormed
                                         time.                                      into that hospital told the doctors
So money ruined                                                                     “This man works every day. You’ve
everything?                              Yes. But he made it up. Like the           got to make him well!”
                                         famous story about breaking the
If you put it that way, then yes.        window at Bonwit Teller. He told           Did you smoke? Drink?
                                         me it’s a fake, the whole story.
What about living ver-                                                              I smoked till I was about 60 or 65.
sus deceased artists?                    The owner of the store asked Dali          One day when I had three cigarettes
Can success spoil them?                  to do a window. At that time the           lit at the same time I realized if I
                                         windows were being done by a               didn’t stop I was going to get cancer.
Not necessarily.                         16- or 17-year-old boy. So the kid         So I was able to cut it off. I always
                                         had done a window. And Dali came           ate relatively well. I played tennis
Warhol opened a                          in and redid the window. The kid           very often until I was 65 and my
factory.                                 comes back and says “Who changed           hips gave out.
                                         my window?” And he changes the
Well, there are two categories.          window back. Dali comes out of the         What is it about the
There’s the large category of people     St. Regis across the street and sees       eastern end of Long
who have a reputation and when           the window has been changed. And           Island that has attracted
they die their reputation dies with      he’s angry. So he goes in there to fix     so many artists over the
them. And then there are those who       the window again and the kid comes         years?
outlive that like Warhol. Also Calder    in. And they get into a tussle. And a
and Basquiat, de Kooning, there’s a      bathtub breaks the window.                 Two major things. When the
number of them. But it’s so hard to                                                 Morans came here, Thomas Moran
forecast today which of the accept-      That’s not a story. So he tells it that    noticed that the light was different.     Alex Rosenberg’s
                                                                                                                              “Sandy” Calder rug in
able artists, the ones we consider       he walks down the street, sees that        The color of the sky was different        the TV room.
important, will survive.                 his window has been changed, so he         than what he was accustomed to in
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