Information Evening for Parents - C.A.O 13th November 2017

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Information Evening for Parents - C.A.O 13th November 2017
C.A.O
Information Evening for
       Parents

      13th November 2017
Information Evening for Parents - C.A.O 13th November 2017
Topics
• The CAO Application System

• The DARE and HEAR Schemes

• The PLC Application System
Understanding the CAO
 Application System
The Application System for Higher
Education Courses

– Central Applications Office
CAO System: How it works…
• Aims to give applicant their highest
  choice
• 2 lists of 10 choices
• 10 choices at Level 8
• 10 choices at Level 6/7
Making an application
• Applicants are encouraged to apply online. It
 opened on the 6th November
• The website address is www.cao.ie
• Applying online is cheaper and it prevents many
 of the errors commonly associated with
 completing a paper application form.
• It is €30 to apply online before 20th January 2018
 and €45 up to 1st February 2018.
Application Form:
• The first part of Application Form is self explanatory.

Biographical details - Information which identifies the
applicant.

Applicant to carefully enter details such as name (as on
birth cert), up to date address, date of birth, schools
attended etc.
CAO Application Number

• When applying online the application number will
  appear on the Receipt of Online Application.

• This number will also be texted to the applicant if
  applicant has ticked permission for this.

• This number is private and it will be used in every
  correspondence between applicant and the CAO for the
  rest of the year.
Second part of Application
        Special Categories
• Mature Students
• All 6th Year applicants will not be
 required to complete Part B of the
 application form
Course Choices

• 10 Choices can be listed for Level 8
• 10 Choices can be listed for Levels
 6/7
National Framework of Qualifications
Ladder of Progression
.
  Level 6 & 7 Courses               Level 8 Courses

Ordinary Degrees (7) Higher
                                  Honours Degrees (8)
      Certificates (6)

  Up to 10 Course Choices         Up to 10 Course Choices
   Whether you apply for 1 or 20 courses –
    same fee.
   The courses are clearly labelled in the
    CAO Handbook, i.e. Level 6, 7 or 8.
   N.B. – Care must be taken with courses
    marked ‘Restricted’.
   These courses cannot normally be
    applied for after February 1st due to
    extra assessments required.
Two Applications on One Form

• It is possible to receive an offer on both lists

• You may then decide to accept either
 your Level 7/6 or your Level 8 offer.
Course Choices
Level 8 Hons Degrees
Course Choices
Level 7 Ordinary Degrees/Level 6 Higher Certificates
Researching courses
• Research each course carefully from prospectus, websites and
  visiting college etc.
• Consult with the Guidance Counsellor
• Discuss with family and friends
• Encourage your child to research information about the
  course/courses he/she is interested in and put a list
  together in order of preference
• Websites: CAO, Qualifax.ie , Careersportal.ie, College websites
  etc.
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Order of Preference
• Course choices for each list must be put in order
  of preference
• 1st July 17.15 is the final date and time for
  deciding this
• Each list is considered separately
• An offer may be made from both lists
• Only one of these can be accepted
Order of Preference
1
2     Dream Courses

3
4
5
6     Realistic Courses

7
8
9
      Banker Courses
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Order of Preference
• If you learn nothing else from this presentation let it be this...

• Your child must place their course choices in genuine order
  of preference!

• To do otherwise is a grave mistake.
Statement of Course Choice
     The Statement is posted in February, will also be emailed to applicant
     The Statement is important for three reasons:
1.    The Statement of Course Choices includes notification of your CAO
      application number.
2.    The Statement of Course Choices lists the courses that you have
      applied for.
3.    If you have made any mistake or omission in
      your course choices then now is the time to
      rectify your error.
     • Applicant to check are all the courses shown and in the correct order?
     • Are all the course codes correct?
     • Are all exams taken mentioned?
Statement of Course Choice
• Included with the Statement of Application Record will be a Change of
  Mind form.
  You may use this to change the order of your course choices and/or to
  introduce new courses, subject to the restrictions detailed in the
  Handbook.

• It is safer to use the Change of Mind Facility on the website than to use
  a paper Change of Mind form.
Changing your mind!
• Students may change their
  mind on-line as often as
  they like up to the 1st July
• They can add new courses
  and alter the order of
  preferences at no extra
  cost up to this date
What is needed to be offered a college
place?
  1.The college matriculation requirement
  2. The specific course requirement
  3.The points requirement – calculated from a
    total of the best six Leaving Certificate
    results
Example

1.   College Requirement e.g. College X requires 6 passes
     including two H5s and passes in Irish, English and
     another language (unless a student is exempt from
     Irish and/or a third language)
2.   Course Requirement e.g. Veterinary Medicine: The
     above requirements, in addition a minimum H4
     Chemistry and O6 Maths
3.   Points requirement e.g. 500 points
What is needed to be offered a college
place: Restricted Courses
Courses that may require another assessment

•   HPAT for Medicine (CAO)
•   Architecture
•   Art and Design
•   Music
•   Drama
•   Photography

You must apply for these   before Feb 1st
What are ‘Points’?
•   Used to decide who gets a place

•   What determines the points?

      1. Number of Applicants

      2. Random selection

      3. Performance of Applicants
How the ‘points’ requirement for
  each course work?
• Each college decides on how many places they wish to offer
  for each course.

 The number of applications will be determined by the
  number of applicants each year, i.e. popularity of the course.
 Places will be offered to applicants in order of merit as
  determined by their points.

 The published ‘points’ for a course are the points achieved
  by the last applicant/s offered a place that year in each
  course
  i.e. everyone offered a place had at least those points
 Thus the minimum ‘points’ can change from year to year
How the system works
Example
DCU Business Course: 3 places

Students:
Tom....... 507
Fred...... 302
Alex...... 301
Declan... 254
Jim........ 200
2017 Science in Maynooth
MH201 - 3 places

Students:
Gill....... 422
Fred...... 370
Mary..... 368              Points: 366*
Paul ..... 300
Jim........ 251
Note:
~ Points are just one requirement.

~ Students must also meet:
✓ matriculation requirements i.e. Pass
  Maths/English/Irish/Language
✓ course requirements e.g. H4 Maths
✓ ‘’other’’ requirements e.g. Portfolio

                        …….if they are to receive an offer.
Maths Bonus Points

• Bonus points were introduced for Honours
  Maths in 2012. An extra 25 points will be
  awarded to grade 6 and above in Higher Level
  Maths results.
• The bonus points are added to the Maths result
 first and then a student’s best six results are
 calculated.
Accepting an offer
• In the week following the release of the
  Leaving Certificate results CAO will post a
  communication to all applicants
• CAO gives a week for acceptances to be made
• Online acceptances possible from any
  location, i.e. if student is away
• CAO numbers are needed to access offers
  and to make acceptances on line
• Offers may also be accepted by post
Communicating With CAO

• The easiest and most efficient way to
  communicate with CAO is by using the 'Contact
  Us' facility on the CAO website.
• Applicant to always quote CAO application
  number in any communication with CAO.
• If posting something to CAO, applicant should
  always obtain a certificate of posting at the post
  office. This is a free service.
Timely Action

• In order to be fair to all applicants , closing dates
  are strict and therefore action should be taken in
  good time
• Do not leave everything to the last minute

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CAO Handbook
•   All Information is in CAO Handbook and Website.
•   Dates and Following CAO Procedure very important.
•   Students are all familiar with all of this information.
•   Every 6th Year has a handbook since September containing all of
    application and course information and familiar with websites.

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To Finish with CAO
• Remember to carefully read all of the
  documents and instructions from CAO.
• Most applicants follow the simple
  instructions from CAO and get along just
  fine.
• If you are unclear on any matter concerning
  the application process, just let us know.
Things to Do
• Fill form out carefully          • Printout online receipt
  Completing it is a process not
  all done in one sitting
                                   • Keep CAO No. safe & use in
                                     all correspondence
• Put down choices in order of
  preference
                                   • Portfolios, Auditions,
• Check form is completed            assessment, interviews for
  correctly & that codes are         restricted courses:
  correct                            Feb/March/April
DARE and HEAR applications

• Students will be asked if they wish to be
  considered for the DARE and HEAR schemes.
• DARE – Disability Access Route to Education.
• HEAR – Higher Education Access Route
• Supporting documentation required.
HEAR and DARE Schemes
• The HEAR and DARE
 Schemes were introduced
 to promote equality of
 access to all, irrespective of
 socio-economic
 background, age or
 disability.
The DARE Scheme
• The DARE scheme is an admissions scheme
  which offers places on reduced points and extra
  support in college, to school leavers with
  disabilities.
• Eligible students must complete the DARE form
  online with their CAO application and provide
  evidence of their disability to CAO – see
  www.accesscollege.ie for specific criteria.
• If your think your child is applying for the DARE Scheme
  please let us know ASAP
List of disabilities for DARE eligibility
• Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) /Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
    (ADHD).
•   Autistic Spectrum Disorder (including Asperger’s Syndrome)
•   Blind/Vision Impaired.
•   Deaf/Hard of Hearing:
      • Students may apply under one of the following categories:
      • (A) Applicants who have an Audiogram
      • (B) Applicants who attend a School for the Deaf
      • (C) Applicants with a Cochlear Implant.
•   Developmental Co-ordination Disorder (DCD) - Dyspraxia/Dysgraphia
•   Mental Health Condition
•   Neurological Condition (incl. Epilepsy and Brain Injury)
•   Speech and Language Communication Disorder
•   Physical Disability
•   Significant Ongoing Illness
•   Specific Learning Difficulty (incl. Dyslexia & Dyscalculia)
The HEAR Scheme
• The HEAR Scheme is an admissions scheme which
  has been introduced to offer places on reduced
  points and extra college support to school leavers
  from wider socio-economic backgrounds.
• There is a range of financial, social and cultural
  indicators to be considered.
• Eligible students must complete the HEAR form
  online with their CAO application and provide
  evidence to the CAO of their circumstances.
• See www.accesscollege.ie for specific criteria.
HEAR/DARE

• Priority given to both HEAR and DARE eligibility
• Complete the Online Application Form by February 1st 2018 on
  www.cao.ie

• You should start gathering your documentation in a timely fashion,
  i.e. before 1 March2018

• Supporting Documents sent to CAO by April 1st

• High competition for these places. 2.5% of each course
PLC Courses

• Level 5: PLC / FETAC
 COURSES
  • NOT APPLIED FOR
    THROUGH CAO
  • Apply Direct to
    College
Post Leaving Certificate Courses –
          What are they?
• Post Leaving Certificate Courses are one and two year
  courses that lead to a F.E.T.A.C. Award.
• Awards which can offer direct entry into employment or an
  alternative route into higher level education.
• Allow students to study a programme in which they have
  expressed an interest in while also providing links to
  higher/further education.
• Programmes have a strong vocational element and all have a
  work experience component.

• (F.E.T.A.C = Further Education and Training Awards Council)
Benefits of Post Leaving Certificate Courses

• Small classes and support services.
• Cheaper option than doing wrong university
  course for a year.
• Wide diversity of course choices.
• Only one or two years long with certification
  on completion.
• Gain confidence and maturity.
Post Leaving Certificate Course
             Application
•   No centralised system.
•   Apply directly to each college.
•   Application Form online.
•   PPS No & School Roll No.
•   Apply over the coming months
•   Interviews in March.
The CAO Progression Route

Within the CAO System PLC students
can gain entry to third level courses if
they do very well in their FETAC
Qualification.
Two Routes same Destination

               PLC College
                 / FETAC                    Employment

Leaving                            Degrees
Certificate
                                   University /
                                     I. of T.

                  CAO
A Ladder of Progression
                            Postgraduate
                              Level 9

                     Honours Degree
                        Level 8
             Ordinary Degree
                 Level 7

      Higher Certificate
          Level 6                          Leaving Cert/
                                              FETAC
  Accredited
Modules on PLC
Grants

• 3rd level grants are means assessed
• Students who want to go to university can apply
  for a grant
• www.susi.ie
• Student Universal Support Ireland

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Contact

 Any further questions you can email us on:
• susanodonovan@cpsetanta.ie
• deborahgalbraith@cpsetanta.ie
You can call us on (01) 640240
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