CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY

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CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
Careers/Courses:
Parents’ Presentation
   16th Jan. 2020
                 Dr. Pat Coffey
                      Principal

                Justin McGree
           Guidance Counsellor

                    Sean Kiely
                          AIB
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
Date for your Diary
• Mocks Tues Feb 4th
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
Content:
• Higher Education, Further Education, etc – what
  to do next?
• College entry requirements
• CAO applications
• Hear/Dare
• PLC Route
• SUSI (grants) and Funding further education
• Apprenticeships
• Support
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
Career Choice Steps
• Knowing yourself
  – Skills, likes/dislikes and values (Pyschometrics)
• Finding out
  – Exploring what is out there (Research)
• Making Decisions
  – Comparing Options (Ranking)
• Taking Action
  – Working towards your goals (Goal Setting & Study)
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
(Student contribution last year was - €3000)
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
Research:
• www.cao.ie
• www.qualifax.ie (searchable database of courses)
• www.careersportal.ie (very comprehensive careers/courses
  information)
• www.careersnews.ie (daily news feed on careers & courses)
• www.gradireland.com
• www.solas.ie (apprenticeships)

             » College prospectus
             » College websites
             » CAO handbook
             » Professional Bodies’ Websites (e.g. Engineers
               Ireland…)
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
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* Irish Times Education Correspondent
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
CAREERS/COURSES: PARENTS' PRESENTATION 16TH JAN. 2020 - DR. PAT COFFEY PRINCIPAL JUSTIN MCGREE GUIDANCE COUNSELLOR SEAN KIELY
The 5 Selection Criteria
• Age 17 on year of entry

• EU Citizen

• Institutional Requirements:
   – Level 6/7 courses = Min 5 subjects in LC (some have higher
     requirements)
   – Level 8 = 6 subjects in Leaving Cert – 2H6 and 4O6

• Faculty Requirements
       • Specific subjects at specific grades e.g. Pharmacy requires 2
         lab science subjects

• Points (final selection criteria)
Example:
Subject        Level /Grade   CAO Points    Best Six
English        H3             77            77
Irish          H6             46            -
Maths          H4             66(+25)= 91   91
French         H3             77            77
Biology        H3             77            77
Construction   H2             88            88
History        H3             77            77
Business       03             37            -
LCVP           Merit          46
                              TOTAL         487
OFFERS EXAMPLE:
           Simon’s Results – 487 points
Subject         Level /Grade   CAO Points    Best Six
English         H3             77            77
Irish           H6             46            -
Maths           H4             66(+25)= 91   91
French          H3             77            77
Biology         H3             77            77
Construction    H2             88            88
History         H3             77            77
Business        03             37            -
LCVP            Merit          46
                               TOTAL         487
• Level 8
  –   DC200   495
  –   DC195   489
  –   DT025   480
  –   DN077   460
  –   DN078   480
  –   GY401   320
  –   GY405   315
  –   GY413   300
  –   LM073   480
491
489
IMPORTANT DATES 2019/20 - CAO:
•    *Tuesday, August 11th: The State Examinations Commission delivers 2020 Leaving Cert results to more than 700
     schools, and makes them available through a secure online service at examinations.ie from noon. Full analysis of the
     results in Irish Times supplement.
•    *Wednesday, August 12th, 9am-Friday 14th, 5pm: Application to view scripts can be made online only on
     the SEC Student Portal. Students will also have access to the component marks of their various scripts at this time.
•    *Thursday, August 13th: The CAO releases round one offers to candidates online that afternoon. Minimum points
     required for entry to each course will be available on the CAO website at that time and are printed in full in The Irish
     Times Round One Offers supplement on Friday 14th .

•    *Friday, August 14th (5pm)-Thursday August 20th (5pm): Students who wish to appeal the result in one
     or more Leaving Cert subjects can apply online through the SEC Student Portal to do so between these dates. A fee of
     €40 per subject applies, which is refunded in the case of an upgrade.
•    *Tuesday, August 18th-Wednesday, August 19th: Leaving Cert students who are unhappy with a grade they
     received on Tuesday 11th and wish to view their marked exam scripts in their school may do so on Tuesday 18th and/or
     Wednesday 19th as assigned by their school. Students, along with one person of their choice, can view their scripts,
     which are available in their schools. The scripts cannot be viewed by anyone else unless the student is present. There is
     no charge for viewing your marked exam scripts. Scripts in subjects which were scanned and corrected online in June
     will be available to view online from 5pm Tuesday 18th to 5pm on Wednesday 19th.
•    *Friday, August 21st (5.15 pm): Closing date for receipt of acceptance of CAO round one offers.
•    *Wednesday, August 26th: The CAO makes round two offers available to applicants online. The minimum points
     required for entry to each course are released on the CAO website on that date.
•    *Friday, August 28th (5.15 pm): Closing date for receipt of acceptance of CAO round two offers.
•    *Friday, September 18th: Results of Leaving Cert appeals released by the SEC by this date.
     Final offers of places by the CAO will be made in the days following the release of appeal results by the SEC

* All the above information is based on a continuation in 2020 of the new structures put in place in 2019

(Last year the first grant payments came out on Sept 23rd for those who registered early)
Offer of Places
• Leaving Cert results are expected on Tues Aug 11th*
• Round 1 – Expected that these will issue in the
  afternoon of Thurs Aug 13th (deadline for return would
  be 5:15 on Tues Aug 18th)*
• Round 2 – Round 2 offers should issue on Aug 21st.*
• Rounds will continue over the following dates (with
  tighter returns windows) until they are exhausted.
• By end of Aug remaining places will be put on the
  “available places” section of the website.

* All of the above dates are TBC by the CAO and have not yet been released.
What it involves:
• Currently a seven stage on-and-off-the-job training
  programme over 2-4 years (usually three) before
  becoming a fully qualified tradesperson and/or
  achieving a QQI Lvl 6 Advanced Certificate.
• Generally 40 weeks off the job training (SOLAS through
  ETBs)
• Must be at least 50% workplace learning
• Prior to 2016 the employer only paid the trainee for
  the stages of on-the-job training but since 2016 the
  employer pays the trainee for the entire duration of
  the training.
DARE
• The Disability Access Route to Education (DARE) is a college
  and university admissions scheme which offers places on
  reduced points to school leavers with disabilities. DARE has
  been set up by a number of colleges and universities as
  evidence shows that disability can have a negative impact on
  how well a student does at school and whether they go on to
  college.
• Who should apply to DARE?
  School leavers under the age of 23 as of Jan 1st 2020, who
  have completed an Irish Leaving Certificate and have the
  ability to benefit from and succeed in Higher Education but
  who may not be able to reach the points for their preferred
  course due to the impact of a disability or ongoing illness.
                       www.accesscollege.ie
2019
FUNDING:
How can we afford it????????
* The rent figure is the mean of National City regions single rent a room cost. The above guide is a national
guide, and the average rental figure for students in Dublin is higher at around €574. Rent in Dublin can vary
widely from less than €495 per month for a shared room, up to €1,976 or more for a one bedroom unit in
Dublin 2. (€574 Figure mean of Dublin region single rent a room cost)
Note: Details for 2017 applicants are still TBC
KEY ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA
• Nationality: Irish, EU, EEA, Swiss nationals or have
                 specific leave to remain in the State.
• Residency: 3 of last 5 years in Ireland, EU, EEA or
                 Switzerland.
• Progression in education – NFQ levels 5-10.
• Approved College/Course (not private colleges)

• ‘Reckonable’ Household Income
Income Limits for 2020 Applicants:

* NOTE: at present only the 2019 figures are available but these have not changed in recent
years and so should be a good indication of 2020 projected figures.
Grant Types and Rates
        (Dependent on your Reckonable Income)

• Fee Grant (Undergrad & Postgrad, not PLC):
   €3,000 Student Contribution (2019/2020);
   Paid directly to Colleges;
   100% or 50% rates; and
   €2,000, or up to €6,270, Postgraduate Fees.
• Maintenance Grant (“adjacent”
SOME KEY MESSAGES
Check the SUSI website: www.susi.ie
(And use the Eligibility Reckoner);
CAO form: Tick the SUSI option;
Apply early (For priority clearing): Open 3rd April
2020 (TBC)
Priority Closing: 7th July 2020 (TBC)
Return requested documentation: complete and
on time.
Self Assessed Income: Early tax returns in 2019.
www.susi.ie
Remember
If your child
qualifies for HEAR,
a separate
application is still
needed for SUSI !
SUSI
    STUDENT UNIVERSAL SUPPORT IRELAND

•   Website: www.susi.ie
•   Email: support@susi.ie
•   Facebook.com/susisupport
•   Twitter.com/susihelpdesk
•   Telephone helpdesk: 0761 087 874
HELPING YOU PLAN
FOR COLLEGE

                   Allied Irish Banks, p.l.c. is regulated
                   by the Central Bank of Ireland.
Typical Costs of College
These are the areas where you should factor in costs

      Accommodation            Student Fees            Travel expenses             Food

                    Books                 Mobile Phone               Social Life
8 TIPS TO MANAGING THE COSTS OF COLLEGE

                01   Savings Jar! Collect spare
                     change, you’d be surprised how
                     much you’ll save (Social Life)
                                                        05
                                                             Why not apply for a part time
                                                             job to make some extra money
                                                             (Everything)

                                                             Where possible, don’t borrow
                     Make sure you get a Student
                02   Leap Card for public transport
                     and retailer discounts! (Travel)
                                                        06   to buy. Unless you have a
                                                             regular income this is generally
                                                             a bad idea.

                     Use comparison websites to              Set up a savings plan that

                03   make sure you are getting the
                     best deal (Mobile network
                                                        07   allows you to budget for once-
                                                             off purchases (Student Fees)
                     suppliers)

                04   Look out for shops/websites
                     that offers specific student       08   Ask around for second hand
                                                             books to save costs (Books)
                     discounts (Food/Travel)
How AIB can help!

         Student Officers                      Our Products                       Student Centre

    •   Dedicated Student Officers         •   Student Plus Account       •       Dedicated Student Centre
             in every branch                                                          available to you
                                           •   Student Personal Loan
    •     Provide you with ongoing
                                                                              •     Phone: 0818 303 203
             support and advice
                                           •   Student Contribution
        throughout your student life
                                                   Charge Loan                       Lines are open
                                                                                   8am – 9pm Mon-Fri
                                       •   AIB Student Credit Card (For            9am – 6pm Saturday
                                                customers over 18)
The AIB Student Plus Account
Features:
• No quarterly maintenance and transaction
  fees.*

• All students can apply for an interest free
  overdraft.

• Commission-free purchase and sale of foreign
  currency notes**

• Advice from our Student Officers and a
  dedicated Student Centre.

• Apple/Google Pay for customers over 16.

• Everyday Rewards for customers over 16.

• AIB Debit Card which can be used abroad.
*Other fees and charges may apply.
**To avail of these additional benefits, you must advise staff at the time of each transaction that you are an AIB Student Plus Account holder. These additional financial benefits are only available on face to
face transactions undertaken at the branch and are not available on any transactions undertaken at an ATM, AIB Self Service banking or through any other electronic means.

Terms and conditions apply. The AIB Student Plus Account is available to any person enrolling or currently engaged in any full-time third level educational course, which includes full-time post-graduate
studies, with a minimum duration of one academic year.
Reduced Rate Loans for AIB Student Plus Account Holders

                   Student Personal Loan                                                   Student Contribution Charge Loan

                                                                                             •     Up to €3,000 per year for a max of 4
         •     You can apply for a Student Loan at a
                                                                                                                 years.
               competitive rate up to a maximum of
                             €50,000.                                                         •    It has a current Variable interest rate
                                                                                                          of 8.15% (APR 8.45%). *
     •       Competitive interest rate for new loans at
              8.15% Variable, APR (Annual Percentage                                   •    You can pay Interest only repayments for
                Rate) of 8.45%*, subject to variation.                                        the duration of your course and then
                                                                                            start full repayments over a 5 year period
                                                                                                   on completion of your course.

Lending criteria, terms and conditions apply. Credit Facilities are subject to repayment capacity and financial status, and are not available to persons under
18 years of age. Security may be required. The Student Contribution Charge Loan can not be used to fund any post-graduate study.
*Rates correct as at 19 December 2018 and subject to change. Current interest rates at www.aib.ie/students
Thank you for your time this evening.

          Any questions?
Supporting them:
Things a parent can do to help:
• Read up on the relevant courses on the Qualifax
  website. From an adult perspective you may have
  some questions that your child has overlooked.
• Make sure your son/daughter has gone to some
  Open Days and/or visits the colleges. These are
  essential for students trying to come to terms with
  the vast array of colleges and courses. (However an
  Open Day will be not be helpful if there has been
  no preparatory work beforehand).
• If possible introduce your son/daughter to
  someone currently doing the course/working in
  the career area.
• Look at the list of proposed courses and find out if your
  son/daughter has researched each course thoroughly.
  Any course that has not been thoroughly researched
  should not be on the list.
• Have the CAO choices been discussed with a Guidance
  Counsellor?
• What is the backup plan if the predicted results do not
  happen?
• Be aware of the risks of failing a crucial higher- level
  paper such as English or Maths. An E on a higher -level
  paper will not be accepted whereas a D on a lower level
  paper may be acceptable. Also in changing levels!!
• Remember parental advice is invaluable, but school
  leavers must make their own particular career choices.
A few simple rules:

• Be involved, but not “in control”
    • Advise, but do not decide
 • Support, but do not dominate.
Keep an eye on deadlines
• www.careersportal.ie
• www.fethardsecondaryschool.ie

e.g. UL Spring Open day on Sat 18th
      Ask WIT Jan 30th

Next talks: LIT Jan 24th
            UL Jan 30th
            WIT Feb 27th (rescheduled)
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