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Fall 2019 | Volume 28 Number 3
Published Quarterly by the BC Notaries Association
28years
Daniel Boisvert, Susan Antoniali,
Brenda Southam, Wayne Braid Inside: All About the REIBC!
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P U B L I S H E D BY T H E S O C I E T Y O F N OTA R I E S P U B L I C O F B C
The Scrivener: What’s in a Name? 4
PRESIDENT, BC NOTARIES ASSOCIATION
Advancing Our Professions 6 Team BC Notaries “Ride to Conquer Cancer 2019” 30
Daniel Boisvert Friends, Feast, and Recognition 31
PRESIDENT, THE SOCIETY OF NOTARIES PUBLIC OF BC SHOWCASING THE WINNERS
The Focus is on Real Estate! 7 OF THE PRESTIGIOUS DR. BERNARD W. HOETER AWARD
Rhoda Witherly Year 2014: BC Notary Daniel Park, Vancouver
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THE SOCIETY OF NOTARIES PUBLIC OF BC Honouring Family Values 32
Change of Seasons 8 Fall Conference 2019 34
John Mayr HISTORY WITH HUMOUR
INTERIM CEO, BC NOTARIES ASSOCIATION Trust Me! I’m a Notary 40
How Time Flies! 9 Professor Peter Zablud
Wayne Braid
BC Notaries Speak Your Language 41
KEYNOTE
Welcome All RI Professionals! 10 Services a BC Notary Can Provide 23, 42
Val Wilson
www.wildmanphotography.com
Building Better Communities,
One Grant at a Time
Message from The Chair of The Notary Foundation 44
Tammy Morin Nakashima
The Board of Governors 45
Theme: All About the REIBC! Congratulations Johanne Blenkin, New Director
of UVic Access to Justice Centre for Excellence (ACE) 46
Dr. Susan Breau
REIBC Vision, Mission, and Values 12
PART OF THE ACCESS TO JUSTICE MOVEMENT
Education Options for RIs 13 Notaries’ Role in Access to Justice in BC 47
COVER STORY Chief Justice Robert Bauman
Working Together for the Benefit of All 14
Announcing the Establishment
Business to Business 19 of the The Right Honourable Beverley McLachlin
Education is Everything! 20 Access to Justice Fund 49
Rudy Nielsen
RI VIGNETTES
Cindy Nesselbeck, Jason Grant
Daniel John
22
23
The Scrivener: What’s in a Name?
Judi Whyte, Mandy Hansen 24 “A professional penman, a copyist, a scribe . . . a Notary.”
Mercedes Wong 25 Thus the Oxford English Dictionary describes a Scrivener, the
Tracy Wall 26 craftsman charged with ensuring that the written affairs of others
flow smoothly, seamlessly, and accurately. Where a Scrivener must
BC NOTARY VIGNETTES record the files accurately, it’s the Notary whose Seal is bond.
David Watts 26
We chose The Scrivener as the name of our magazine to celebrate
John Eastwood, Tammy Morin Nakashima 27
the Notary’s role in drafting, communicating, authenticating,
REIBC and getting the facts straight. We strive to publish articles about
Bev Greene, Senior Vice President, points of law and the Notary profession for the education and
Property Management for Concert Properties, enjoyment of our members, our allied professionals in business,
Receives George Whyte Award 28 and the public in British Columbia.
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EDUCATION
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Krista James, Sara Pon Editor-in-Chief Val Wilson
COMMUNITY Interim CEO G. W. Wayne Braid
Uniting the Community through Music 52 Administrative
Peter Brimacombe Assistant Christina Tang
LAND TITLE AND SURVEY AUTHORITY UPDATE
Courier Lightspeed Courier & Logistics
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Carlos MacDonald Photographer Wildman Photography
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Letters55 The Scrivener
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The BC Notaries Association does not, in any
The Man Who Saved Vancouver’s History 66
sense, endorse or accept responsibility
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THE PROFESSION OF PLANNING
World Town Planning Day November 8
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Michael Geller
LEADERSHIP
How to Develop Agile Leadership Skills 72
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PRESIDENT,
BC NOTARIES
ASSOCIATION
Daniel Boisvert
www.wildmanphotography.com
Advancing Our Professions
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I
had the pleasure of being part of the REIBC has been advancing the interest of real estate
professionals for over 50 years. In our Cover Story Interview,
REIBC Cover Story Interview in this issue it was great to confirm that REIBC members hold the same
of The Scrivener. values of honesty and integrity on which BC Notaries have
built their strong Tradition of Trust. I look forward to seeing
the BC Notaries Association work closely with REIBC and
others to enhance our brands.
On the advocacy front, I am pleased to report we
have made positive progress with Government. It has been
recognized that BC Notaries have more to offer in terms of
meeting the noncontentious legal needs of the public; the BC
Government is committed to exploring that further with us.
… BC Notaries have more to offer in terms
of meeting the noncontentious legal needs
of the public; the BC Government is committed
to exploring that further with us.
In fact, the Select Standing Committee on Finance and
Government Services made a recommendation in its 2020
Budget Report to expand the Notary scope of practice in
BC. While we still have much work to do to move that along,
the recommendation is a great example of what strong
Dan, Susan, Brenda, Wayne advocacy can do.
Reflecting on that experience, I confirmed one of my At our recent BC Notaries Fall Conference in Kelowna,
long-held beliefs: Not only does our BC Notaries Association we enjoyed another excellent continuing education program,
need to be an advocate for our Notary members, we need high attendance, enthusiasm, and fun. A focus in the
to advocate for the other associations in our industry. coming fiscal year for our Board of Directors will be to offer
We are not alone in the goal of advancing our some alternative channels for our members to learn and
profession. We have a greater chance of success if each earn education credits.
association leverages the strengths of the others. The I wish to extend my thanks to Wayne Braid
combined efforts of many advocates operating in the same for stepping into the CEO position on
space are more effective than any one single organization. a temporary basis following the departure
BC Notaries are, of course, real estate professionals. of Jacqui Mendes. Wayne has been working
The people of our province trust BC Notaries to do the to advance several important projects,
majority of the legal conveyancing work necessary when including our new website that will launch soon.
a real property is bought and sold. We expect to begin interviews for a new CEO in October. s
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PRESIDENT,
THE SOCIETY
OF NOTARIES PUBLIC Rhoda Witherly
OF BC
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The Focus is on Real Estate!
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hese are my last musings price drop was slow to materialize. It is not yet in effect as the regulations
Prices did finally dip in 2018 but, are not in place but, once enacted,
to you as President of The for many buyers, a single-family home it will require further disclosure of the
Society of Notaries Public was still out of reach. details of the principals of corporate
This year, prices have levelled and it entities who are owners of property.
of BC because the final year
is expected they will rise again in 2020. Other reports yet to come include
of my term finished at the end the report of the public inquiry
of September. into money laundering, the Cullen
This year, prices have Commission of Inquiry into Money
How fitting that this edition levelled and it is expected Laundering. Real estate is believed to
features the Real Estate Institute of BC they will rise again in 2020. be a favourite parking spot for money
and the work they do in identifying launderers. The government hopes
issues and looking at real estate trends the inquiry will shed some light on the
in the industry. Has anything happened to address magnitude of the problem and see
this situation? if there is a link between increasing
Much of the news in the past 2 to
The BC government began to feel prices and money laundering activities.
3 years has been dominated by “Real
Estate.” There have been changes in the pressure of unaffordable housing As we enter the fourth quarter
regulations, interest rate changes, and and lack of affordable rental units of 2019, it is hard to predict where all
surprises in the real estate industry. in the Lower Mainland. New legislation this will lead. There have been some
It seemed that not a week went by was introduced in the form of the changes in the market but people
without another prediction about the Speculation and Vacancy Tax Act. continue to move to BC, increasing
real estate market and its state, the The Act is directed at persons or demand for housing.
announcements of a new “green” corporations who own residential real
• H
ousing prices and rental rates
housing proposal, new taxes, and new estate and let it sit empty.
in the Lower Mainland do not
programs all relating to real estate. The tax applies only in certain appear to be dropping and are
Let’s take a look. designated areas of the province that either holding steady or rising
are feeling the housing pressure. in other regions of BC.
Spurred on by ever-increasing Property owners residing in those
prices in the housing markets across areas must complete an annual • N
ew housing starts and
Canada and increasing consumer declaration to claim an exemption from construction of affordable rental
debt, in January of 2018 the federal paying the tax. The City of Vancouver units seem unable to keep pace
agency Canada Mortgage and Housing has also implemented a similar tax with the growth in population.
Corporation introduced a “stress test” with its “Vacancy Tax Bylaw.” It is • N
ew ideas about housing options
for home buyers looking for mortgages. hoped that many vacant properties and green housing projects are
Despite the low mortgage rates, will become available for rental. It’s still in a beginning stage and not
borrowers had to qualify for their loan not clear yet if that has happened . . . yet having an effect on the market.
at a much higher rate of interest. and affordability remains an issue. One thing we do know is that
The effect was immediate. The final shoe-drop was the as real estate professionals, our jobs
Housing sales slowed across the introduction of new legislation called are not going to be static or boring.
country. In BC the bottom dropped the Land Owner Transparency Act, Something new will always be on
out of sales but the hoped-for given royal asset in May of this year. the horizon. s
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,
THE SOCIETY
OF NOTARIES PUBLIC John Mayr
OF BC
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Change of Seasons
T
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he arrival of Fall brings Saskatchewan, and pretty much of that amount used to fund real
everywhere else in Canada. estate purchases in BC. We now look
the return to school for forward to the Cullen Commission of
It was those same teachers
students young and old who on principle, after suffering Inquiry into Money Laundering that will
a provincial law that dismantled their examine, among other things, money
and the inevitable shift in the laundering through real estate.
contract by unilaterally increasing
housing market. class size, appeared in the Supreme BC Notaries, real estate
Court of Canada to argue the validity professionals, and mortgage brokers
To market-watchers, it won’t be of that provincial statute. The are all subject to Canada’s Anti-Money
a surprise that I say this year has been Supreme Court found the law was Laundering/Anti-Terrorist Financing
unlike many others in our history. not valid and reinstated many of the legislation. All are required to comply
While there is some indication the provisions (including class size) that with complex legislative requirements
downward trend in the housing market the law had changed. including keeping detailed records
is lessening, there are continuing
of business relationships, discovering
concerns regarding the world-wide
source of funds, and reporting
economy. It’s an uncertain time with Few would disagree that suspicious transactions.
a Canadian federal election looming
and the long runup starting for the
teachers are an important… Lawyers, who are not subject
US federal election. part of our education to AML/ATF legislation, are developing
system, public or private. their own systems in response to the
Elections are peculiar times.
scourge of money laundering.
Whereas parties set out their platforms
and espouse various broad and global It’s not just AML/ATF legislation
The Government in the majority
policies designed to appease all, that adds to the burden. Changing
stood by its law while the opposition
that is rarely the case. lender requirements, tighter lending
railed against it. Those same teachers
rules, GST, PST, PPTT, and the Land
I would look to the teachers were influential in the last provincial
Ownership Transparency registry will
in this province as an example. election and now, with the previous
all add to the cost of real estate and
Few would disagree that teachers opposition in the majority, find that not
that cost will ultimately be borne by
are an important—maybe the most much has changed.
consumers.
important—part of our education Teachers as professionals are not
system, public or private. alone in this predicament. Indeed, Consumers rely on highly educated
the professionals who work in real and trained professionals for the sound
Teachers are the thread that
estate find themselves in a similar advice they are provide. Regardless of
binds the fabric of childhood through
situation. In this year alone, the the profession, those individuals work
the years of teenage angst to the
German and Maloney Reports set forth hard every day to benefit their clients
development of caring contributing
staggering numbers related to money through the provision of services.
members of society. In BC, those
teachers, valuable as they are, laundering. Maloney found a total of One thing is for sure . . . the
are paid less, in fact much less $46.7 billion was laundered through change of season will bring us even
than their counterparts in Alberta, Canada’s economy with $5.3 billion more interesting times. s
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INTERIM CEO,
BC NOTARIES
ASSOCIATION
Wayne Braid
www.wildmanphotography.com
How Time Flies!
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W
e have all heard Much of my day involves speaking I am often concerned I may not
with members who most often open be as effective as I can be or perhaps
that old saying the conversation with “I am sorry to I am not responding 110 per cent
a thousand— bother you; I know you are really busy.” to situations in my work or my home
In my mind, we can never be too environment because I am distracted
maybe two thousand—times! busy to speak with each other, listen by my thoughts about the many things
to each other, and offer the advice that need doing.
Time moves swiftly forward.
or assistance that is being sought.
Time was said to fly or flee by the Here is a Wikiquote about
Romans, for whom Tempus fugit was In today’s connected world,
time management: “Good time
a well-known adage. To paraphrase a a lot of our conversation takes place
management enables an individual
quote from Chaucer’s The Clerk’s Tale, via email, Facebook, Messenger, and
to complete more in a shorter period
For though we sleep or wake or roam texting. Our styles of communication
of time.”
or ride, time flies and for no man will are getting briefer, perhaps with
it abide. In Ten Khun in 1710, Kaibaka the expectation that the fewer words Initially, time management
Ekken noted, “Time flies as swiftly as we send, the faster the recipient referred only to business or work
an arrow” and today we sometimes say will respond! activities but the term has expanded
time flies when you’re having fun! to include personal activities.
This past weekend at our Time has become The major suggestions in time-
BC Notaries Association Annual a commodity. management literature include the
Conference at the beautiful Delta following steps.
Grand Hotel in Kelowna , that adage How can we understand
came to me in many ways. the issues our colleagues • Create an environment
conducive to effectiveness.
I am back as the (Interim) are putting forth when
CEO of the BC Notaries Association. we are in such a hurry? • Set priorities.
Away 2 years, I realize time indeed
does fly! Old friends, acquaintances, • Reduce time spent
many of our sponsors, and of course Time has become a commodity.
on nonpriorities.
our Notary members have grown older. How can we understand the issues
Our Notaries have matured, changed our colleagues are putting forth when
• Implement goals.
locations, travelled to different we are in such a hurry?
provinces and other places around Are we listening less? Getting time Yes, time does fly. We spend much
the globe, welcomed children and to slow down so we can listen more of our time trying to figure out how to
grandchildren, and changed the way effectively is a real challenge; there manage the beast and grapple it to the
they practise as a BC Notary. is just so much to do in a day! ground so we will have more time! s
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KEYNOTE
Val Wilson
Editor-in-Chief
www.wildmanphotography.com
Welcome All RI Professionals!
G
ood business is Ken Sherk, BC Notary Input, the colourful
and RI, West Vancouver REIBC magazine
a team effort put forth published three times
“I have been an
by people who care RI since 2009 and just a year, ably fulfills
received my 10-year its mandate to keep
about doing their jobs well members in touch with
Certificate. I have
and in harmony with others. been fortunate to have spent time issues affecting the
on the REIBC Board and thoroughly real estate industry. Its timely articles
It was a pleasure to interview enjoyed my experience. The annual address issues related to appraisal,
Daniel, Brenda, Susan, and Wayne luncheons with interesting and sales, management, finance, and other
for our Cover Story. They are all entertaining speakers and the Annual industry topics. Input is provided to
successful and seasoned professionals Golf Tournament are highlight activities members free of charge. If you are
who know their respective businesses each year. not an RI and would like to read the
and share the values of integrity, magazine, please visit the REIBC
collaboration, and hard work. “That said, my BEST experience website. www.reibc.org
has been getting to know and
Brenda Southam has associating with REIBC’s Executive Mercedes Wong, RI,
been the Executive Officer Brenda Southam. Brenda’s reminds us of this
Officer of the Real wonderful personality and strong memorable quote by
Estate Institute of leadership skills have helped make Warren Buffet: “It takes
British Columbia REIBC what it is today!” 20 years to build a
for 12 years. reputation and 5 minutes
Susan Antoniali, RI, to ruin it. If you think
CPM, was awarded “The about that, you’ll do things differently.”
“It takes 20 years
Real Estate Management This issue also showcases many
Council Member of the to build a reputation photos from the BC Notaries Annual
Year Award” in 2011. and 5 minutes to ruin it. Conference in Kelowna. BC Notaries
The award is presented If you think about that, certainly know how to make continuing
by the Real Estate education FUN! s
Council of Canada to an RI member you’ll do things differently.”
who holds the property management Why Do We Say “BC Notaries”?
designation and is considered to be
one of the foremost supporters of the Terry Sidhu, BC Notary People who move to BC are
Council and its respective designation. and RI, Abbotsford surprised to learn that a Notary
in BC can assist with myriad
Our theme section includes stories “I have been an noncontentious legal processes
by RIs who were keen to write about RI Member for over . . . a lot more than simply
what the RI designation means to 18 years. It has been witnessing documents. Please see
them. Here are vignettes from two a great benefit because page 21 for the list of services
BC Notaries who are RIs. it has allowed me to be more involved a BC Notary can provide.
More vignettes follow the Cover Story. with the real estate community.”
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10 TABLE OF CONTENTSREIBC
REIBC Vision, Mission, and Values
A
n RI is a designated, WORKING TOGETHER The RI Designation:
REIBC works with a variety The Mark of a Qualified Professional
educated, experienced,
of organizations and serves a
and connected real diverse membership of real estate
estate professional. professionals.
We are committed to the following. REIBC offers the recognized
The RI designation sets a high Professional RI designation to real
professional standard across the • S
upporting high industry
standards and professional estate professionals from all sectors
industry and provides an assurance of of the industry who meet high
excellence for clients and consumers. accreditation
education and experience standards.
• P
romoting standards of excellence
VISION A Professional RI designation
in business practices
A real estate sector comprised of is granted in recognition of the
professionals operating with the • F
acilitating ongoing professional
achievement of rigorous standards
highest standards of integrity and education
of education and experience that
expertise • C
ollaborating with industry leaders guarantee a high standard of real
and educators estate knowledge. Only individuals who
MISSION
• C
ontributing to provincial and have met specific qualifications can
To promote our diverse RI-designated attain the RI designation and become
members as distinguished municipal land policies and
programs Professional members of the REIBC.
professionals who are trusted,
educated, and experienced • P
roviding an objective perspective REIBC Professional members can be
through independent research found working in all sectors of real
VALUES estate and the business community
• Integrity including the following.
Trustworthy professionals who are
honest, reliable, respectful, and REIBC works with a variety • Sales and Leasing
always above reproach of organizations and serves • Investment and Finance
• E xpertise a diverse membership • Project and Land Development
Continuous improvement of
the depth and breadth of the
of real estate professionals. • Property and Strata Management
knowledge of our members • Appraisal and Assessment
• D
iversity • Real Estate Consulting
Our Unique Role
Professional, cultural, and
REIBC plays a unique role as the • Notarial and other legal services
geographic
only professional organization whose • Industry Education
• T ransparency members come from every segment
Proactive, open and honest of the real estate community. We Use an RI the next time you are
communication bring together a diverse membership looking for one of these professionals.
• C
ommunity of industry professionals across seven • Acquisition Manager
Collaborative mindset that fosters provincial districts, offering special
• Administrator
interaction, growth, and increased benefits for our Professional, Associate
professional expertise and Nominee members. • Analyst
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12 TABLE OF CONTENTSREIBC
• Appraiser – ICI
• Appraiser – Residential
• Arbitrator
• Architect
Education Options for RIs
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• Assessment
• Asset Manager
• Association Executive
• BC Notary
• B
anking – Loans officer, credit
analyst, retail mortgage banker
• Construction Manager • U
BC, Bachelor of Commerce The BCIT Marketing Management
with a Major in Real Estate Diploma, Professional Real Estate
• Consultant Option, qualifies for the RI designation,
• U
BC, Diploma in Urban Land
• Developer as well. This 2-year classroom-based
Economics
• Engineer program challenges students to solve
• UBC, Bachelor of Business problems encountered in real world
• Financier in Real Estate scenarios.
• Lawyer • B
CIT, Marketing Management Two years ago, the REIBC was
• Leasing (Professional Real Estate Option) pleased to qualify graduates from the
Diploma Diploma in Real Estate at Langara
• Manager
College for an RI designation, providing
• Mortgage Broker • U
BC, Post-Graduate Certificate
graduates meet the program’s work-
in Real Property Valuation (PGCV)
• Portfolio Manager experience qualifications.
• L
angara College, Diploma
• Project Manager in Real Estate
• Property Manager
Professionals can
• R
yerson University, qualify to become
• Property Negotiator Real Estate Management
an RI in a number of ways.
• Property Tax Consultant • U
niversity of Guelph,
• Real Estate Education Real Estate and Housing (REH)
In addition to the above programs,
• Reserve Fund Planner Professionals can qualify to future RIs come from qualifying
become an RI in a number of ways. programs at the University of Guelph,
• Sales – ICI
The most longstanding of all the Ryerson University, and the University
• Sales – Residential qualifying programs is the Diploma of Calgary.
• Strata Property Manager in Urban Land Economics (DULE)
from UBC. For those without specific
• Student real-estate-program education, an
The DULE consists of a executive entrance stream is available.
Our Services comprehensive core component as Applicants provide specific information
• RI Designation well as five specializations including to the Institute regarding their related
• Input Magazine Real Property Assessment, Appraisal, real estate work including duration
Real Estate Management, Real Estate of experience and responsibility and
• Student Mentoring Development, and Brokerage. supervisory levels.
• REIBC eNews
The DULE is delivered online and Each case is reviewed by the
• Weekly Bulletin is designed for busy adult learners. REIBC Governors for acceptance.
• Career Opportunities The program can be completed in If the Governors find the qualifications
as little as two semesters or can be suitable, applicants are invited to
• Insight: REIBC blog extended over a number of years to attend a qualification interview
• Members Seeking Employment s match the individual learner’s needs. before a decision is made. s
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Working Together for the Benefit of All
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Dan, Susan, Brenda, and Wayne
By the early ‘80s, to become an plus associate members and nominee
• D
aniel Boisvert is President RI you still needed the Urban Land members. About 850 all together
of the BC Notaries Association. Economics diploma that now includes . . . and some honourary members,
five different specialties. REALTORS® of course.
• Susan Antoniali is President do not need to be an RI to get a real
of the Real Estate Institute of BC. THE SCRIVENER: Does your
estate licence.
membership number remain constant?
• B renda Southam is Executive
BRENDA: Over the last 5 years, it has.
Officer of the Real Estate REIBC offers frequent And as with every other “association”
Institute of BC.
online education sessions today, we are working hard to bring in
new people to become engaged
• W
ayne Braid is Interim CEO to help keep people in the organization and with our diverse
of the BC Notaries Association. stay on top of what's real estate professional members.
happening in real estate. THE SCRIVENER: Please tell us about
Recorded August 2019,
In Conversation with Val Wilson, your RI education program.
Editor-in-Chief of The Scrivener WAYNE: The Urban Land Economics BRENDA: UBC runs the Urban Land
part of the program is still running Economics program that takes
at UBC. Some of our BC Notaries anywhere from 2 or more years to
THE SCRIVENER: Brenda, when did
have qualified for the RI designation complete. REIBC offers frequent online
REIBC start up and why?
because they have taken the Urban education sessions to help people stay
BRENDA: REIBC was Land program at UBC. on top of what's happening in real
started in 1962 as a
THE SCRIVENER: estate. REIBC provides education and
way for people, mainly
How many RI members industry update webinars during the
REALTORS®, to acquire
do you have? year; this year there were 10.
more education for their
licensing requirements. BRENDA: It's a Eighty to 90 per cent of our
Individuals became RIs small community members are completing continuing
when they took the Urban Land of professionals education because that's who they are.
Economics diploma from UBC. with about 650 professional members They like to stay sharp and current.
BC Notaries Association Volume 28 Number 3 Fall 2019
14 TABLE OF CONTENTSTHE SCRIVENER: Daniel, the Some other organizations in our province, about 380 are members
BC Notaries Association was formed province still have not made that of the BC Notaries Association.
recently. Why is it now a separate separation.
THE SCRIVENER: Susan, you have been
organization from The Society THE SCRIVENER: How many President of the REIBC since July 1,
of Notaries Public of BC? commissioned BC Notaries are there 2019. How’s it going so far?
DANIEL: There is a trend now?
SUSAN: I've been on the REIBC
in government to want DANIEL: We are still a very small Board for a number of years. I'm
to see advocacy for an organization but have just surpassed looking forward to working with the
organization’s members the 400-member mark! 11 Governors on our Board to do
separated from the
THE SCRIVENER: That's great! strategic planning and implementation
organization’s
and working with our membership
self-regulatory
participation over the next year.
responsibility for public protection.
With two separate organizations,
Of the 400 qualified THE SCRIVENER: Do you have specific
the possibility of conflict of interest BC Notaries ideas in mind for change?
is negated. It makes good sense in our province, SUSAN: We will continue
to have the advocacy focus on our
Association side and the regulatory
about 380 are to bring more
membership value
focus with The Society of Notaries members of the
to the community, plus
Public of BC, so neither is impeded BC Notaries Association. ongoing relevant
by the other.
education and industry
WAYNE: Some of the WAYNE: Yes, it is great. When your trends and research.
background for that organization is working to grow RIs are not all in the same business
comes from a report its membership, bringing in more or primary disciplines but they do
from the office of the members is certainly a good thing. share the same designation.
Ombudsperson that Every year, over 1200 people enquire That provides great networking support
advocacy and regulatory about becoming a BC Notary. Of the for information and business
needed to be separated. 400 qualified BC Notaries in our opportunities.
2019 – 2020 REIBC Board of Governors
Back row from left: Edwin Kwok Yu Yan, Doug Page, Geoff Radtke, Sean McGinnis, Mona Murray, Umesh Chand
Front row from left: Cindy Nesselbeck, Susan Antoniali, Daniel John, Keith MacLean-Talbot
Missing: Valeria Lifanova, Clayton Olson
Volume 28 Number 3 Fall 2019 The Scrivener | www.notaries.bc.ca/scrivener TABLE OF CONTENTS 15THE SCRIVENER: Please tell us more THE SCRIVENER: Were you able to help For the past 4 years, I have been
about the diversity of careers within make changes for homeless people Managing the Real Estate Services
the RI designation. in the City of Vancouver? for the City of North Vancouver.
SUSAN: From 2008 for a number We manage all the civic properties and
SUSAN: Our RI members are at assets. My responsibilities also include
various levels of their careers. We of years, I was a leader in providing
the City of Vancouver with emergency real estate transactions, property
have members from one-on-one management, parking management,
specialized services, technical shelters during extreme weather
incidents. Sites were chosen for security, and other opportunities.
advisors, businessowners, and
government employees. They include the demographics of the need When I worked for the City of
and are not limited to BC Notaries, and the need changed each year. Vancouver, I don't remember seeing
tax consultants, appraisers, The work was to turn the opportunity any citizen pick up garbage from the
investment firm owners, chartered of generally vacant warehouses into street. In North Vancouver, many
accountants, land surveyors, lawyers, warm and functional shelters in people walk toward a piece of garbage
assessors, consultants, commercial less than 1 month. That included on the street, pick it up, and put it into
brokers, mortgage brokers, sales abatement, permits, construction, a street container. People hold doors
asset managers, project and land provincial agencies, nonprofit open for each other, complete with
developers, property managers, providers, and health, fire, and “thank you” and a smile.
engineers, and architects. final licensing signoffs.
THE SCRIVENER: What’s new in the
THE SCRIVENER: Please tell us more It was rewarding because the Lower Lonsdale area?
about your own career, Susan. initiative sheltered up to 160 people
from the cold. The third year, the SUSAN: The City of North Vancouver
SUSAN: I served 38 years at the City contracting company we used was has recently opened “The Shipyard
of Vancouver. In 2014 I completed comprised of a number of shelter Common” on Lower Lonsdale.
my 19th job journey as the Manager users from the first year. It was It is very exciting for the people
of Property Management and Business something special to see and the in the area. The amenities include
Operations. operation was a success. a public spray park in the Summer
“The Shipyard Commons” at the foot of Lonsdale, North Vancouver
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16 TABLE OF CONTENTSthat converts into a public skating THE SCRIVENER: Dan, how would you enjoyed the services of that particular
venue in the Winter. There is compare the BC Notaries Association Notary over the years.
also the Seaside Boutique Hotel, with the REIBC?
WAYNE: Our surveys support that.
85,000 feet of commercial space, DANIEL: I see the synergy of values Multigenerational clients are part
a satellite campus for Capilano between our two organizations. of the Notary brand. I would say it’s
University, and 140 public parking Members of both groups are educated part of the RI brand, too. BC Notaries
stalls. Now added to the original Pipe and experienced and we all have are traditionally accessible in their
Shop venue are the Tap & Barrel, integrity. When the two brands communities. For example, with Dan's
the Polygon Art Gallery, and the come together, really one brand office, people can walk in off the
new North Vancouver Museum of is supporting the other because street and most times probably get
Archives featuring “Street Car #153.” both brands have the same value to see him right away.
Public parking has been reinstated. system. If my clients see value in the
THE SCRIVENER: Susan, are your RIs
THE SCRIVENER: RI designation and I'm an RI member
mostly sole proprietors?
What a fantastic and a Notary Public, then I'm giving
development! Brenda, that client even more confidence in SUSAN: We're about
I noticed that on the believing he or she has chosen the 50/50 right now . . .
REIBC website, the right professional. RIs are self-employed
word “integrity” shows in corporate business
up often. Your members or may work for various
A lawyer friend once government agencies.
are a very professional group indeed,
with integrity. defined integrity as doing We have been
WAYNE: A lawyer friend once defined the right thing when successful in promoting the RI
designation to a number of employers.
integrity as doing the right thing when nobody's looking.
nobody's looking. WAYNE: As one of the
speakers at the recent
THE SCRIVENER: And it feels very WAYNE: When the public is looking
2019 BC Land Summit,
good to do the right thing. at a BC Notary and that Notary also
I was quite astounded
SUSAN: Recently, a couple of ladies has an RI designation, they see
following my
asked me to sit down with them added value that took discipline and
presentation on the
at North Van City Hall. “We just a significant investment of time and
Torrens system of land
want to thank you for having young, money to achieve. You know what
registration . . . a difficult subject,
intelligent people working at our they've gone through to acquire
based on the number of people who
City Hall. We're just so thankful,” those professional designations.
came up to talk to me and ask
they told me. I mention that moment BC Notaries and RIs are likeminded
questions; there was a lineup afterward.
because in all my career, I've never people who want to show the public
heard appreciation for courtesy they are interested in their profession. Do you know who they were?
expressed like that. It's a career, not just a job. They were city planners and
development officers from various
WAYNE: Yes. It's good to know that DANIEL: In some
levels of business. They'd never
people like being part of a process respects, we
heard about Torrens. There were
when it is done well. BC Notaries still
also a number of staff there from
struggle to have the
THE SCRIVENER: Brenda, how does some Government Ministries
public fully understand
your brand generate public confidence who had questions and provided
all the services we can
so people will choose to do business some information regarding their
provide professionally.
with an RI? various work focus involving Crown
It’s the BC Notaries Association’s job
Lands. Someone from Hydro said,
BRENDA: The RI to deliver that message. That is also
“You need to come talk to our staff.”
designation brand the benefit of aligning ourselves with
Quite a number of academic clients
is very rounded and other organizations like the REIBC.
were in attendance.
encompassing and Together, we get the message out.
it embraces a lot SUSAN: The Land Summit in
BRENDA: Another shared quality
of people. We work May was very successful with
between our two organizations is trust.
on our brand every day over 800 delegates attending.
because it's so important to us. DANIEL: Absolutely. BC Notaries have It brought together the five member
We let people know our members built a longstanding Tradition of Trust. organizations of the BC Land Summit
are designated, educated, and And they care. They often have Society—The BC Association of
experienced. We talk about what first-time homebuyer clients in their the Appraisal Institute of Canada,
an RI is and why new people twenties whose parents, grandparents, The British Columbia Institute of
would like to be an RI. and other family members who have Agrologists, The British Columbia
Volume 28 Number 3 Fall 2019 The Scrivener | www.notaries.bc.ca/scrivener TABLE OF CONTENTS 17It brought together RIs who haven’t Social Purpose. We’ve never had so
The other story is seen each other for a bit. The much feedback from a topic! The
I've read every issue of your camaraderie was outstanding to see. response was unbelievable!
magazine [The Scrivener] WAYNE: Cool! WAYNE: And it's not just the members
of our own associations who are
since 1993, cover to cover. SUSAN: I have two Notary stories
reading our publications. We distribute
to tell you. A few times I have heard
I find it really interesting. over 10,000 copies of The Scrivener
that when people go to sell their
homestead, they think the Notaries each quarter and there are only
take the whole fee of the real estate 400 Notaries.
Society of Landscape Architects,
The Planning Institute of British transaction. They don’t realize the real One of the offerings from REIBC
Columbia, and The Real Estate estate transaction includes other fees that I saw and liked . . . and Brenda
Institute of British Columbia. Those such as REALTOR® fees, property tax will correct me if I don't thank her
organizations work to foster and adjustments, and legal-document fee properly . . . was the self-evaluation
support multidisciplinary relationships adjustments. program you put together about
and enhance innovative programming an RI’s competency in his or her
The other story is I've read
for future conferences. particular profession.
every issue of your magazine since
BRENDA: We have an 1993, cover to cover. I find it really BRENDA: The Competency Model.
online session next interesting. REIBC past president Charles
week that I am really Johnstone was the driving force on
THE SCRIVENER: Thank you!
excited about. that one. It was a really good program.
Immigration lawyer SUSAN: More recently,
Richard Kurland will talk I once chose a lawyer Brenda did an awesome
about the unrest in from reading his articles job with the Strata
Hong Kong and the people living in Council Governance
Hong Kong who are holding Canadian about Wills and Estates
online course.
passports . . . about 300,000 people; in The Scrivener. He worked
many have ties with BC. So what WAYNE: Strata
very fast and professionally governance is
happens if they all come home?
It's a very interesting topic. for me and my family. important, but unfortunately it may go
against people's primal human instinct
Those are the kinds of timely . . . to get what they want.
things we like to do for our members SUSAN: I once chose a lawyer from
to keep them on top of what’s reading his articles about Wills and DANIEL: Strata councils
happening. Some people might say Estates in The Scrivener. He worked are generally made up
that's not a real estate thing, but it is. very fast and professionally for me of lay people. Providing
If 300,000 people come home, it's a and my family. education on strata
real estate issue in this city, for sure. Listening to our story, the lawyer governance and strata
decided that a strongly worded letter legislation can be very
WAYNE: Susan, how helpful in assisting
would the City of North with a 24-hour deadline would be
the plan. It would either send us to those bodies to better serve the strata
Vancouver handle that owners.
huge influx of people? a quick resolution or to a 2-to-3-year
Where are you going legal battle. The letter was the right BRENDA: Strata governance is about
to put them? They can thing to do and it saved thousands the whole, not just the individual.
go to Sidney. We have of dollars. For a small fee, the law That’s the challenge. I love
over 300 new condos coming on the firm provided an intelligent letter and governance.
market within the next 18 months. closed all the issues that would have
taken years in Court. WAYNE: It is important to note
(LAUGHTER). that social purpose is entering our
THE SCRIVENER: What else is WAYNE: Wow. All because of our marketplace. Real estate is turning
happening at the REIBC, Susan? magazine. There you go, Val. itself around to realize there must be
THE SCRIVENER: That’s some sort of positive social purpose
SUSAN: We also want to tie our
wonderful! (LAUGHTER) involved.
actions into the community and have
RI members even more involved. BRENDA: The Scrivener RIs and BC Notaries are valuable
Recently we had the opportunity and Input magazines resources in our communities.
to host a private tour of the TransLink are powerful vehicles for We must stay focused on how
network. Due to security restrictions, education and change. we can do the very best job and
it was limited to 15 members; the The Summer edition of Input magazine we must understand our purpose
tour sold out in an hour. was focused on Social Housing and for doing it. s
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Rudy Nielsen
Education is Everything!
I
first got my real estate As I was selling real estate, the RI course and drop the ACI course.
I made sure I had enough time to take Once I achieved my RI certification,
licence in 1964 at the age I was well on my way to success with
both my RI and Nominee Certificates
of 24. and received both in 1972. To this experience, education, and motivation!
day, I find myself very fortunate to be In my 47 years of consulting
In those days, it wasn’t common a professional RI. and appraising, my RI designation
be a real estate agent at a young age qualifications have always been well
because most REALTORS® were a lot accepted and respected by my clients.
older and more established. Despite In my 47 years Throughout the years, I have had the
that, I never gave up; the situation
of consulting and appraising, pleasure of appraising large properties
provided me even more determination including the largest ranch in BC;
to be successful. my RI designation a number of food-chain development
My father was a trapper-turned-
qualifications have always sites; high-rise apartment buildings;
businessman in Northern BC and been well accepted and a great number of ranches, resorts,
I always knew I wanted to be in the and recreational properties; and
respected by my clients. potential subdivision properties.
real estate business, too, as it were
made for me. I worked very hard in My first job out of high school was
the first few years, saving up some I initially enrolled in the cruising timber for BC Forestry so I can
cash so I could slow down and ACI program as well, but after a appraise a lot of recreational properties
take courses because I always felt disagreement on allowing depreciation for subdivisions and for potential
I needed more education. on apartment blocks, I chose to stay on revenue of timber on the property.
BC Notaries Association Volume 28 Number 3 Fall 2019
20 TABLE OF CONTENTSIn 1971 I started Yellowhead contains detailed information on every
Realty and by 1976, had 6 offices with residential property in BC. Our cutting-
70 employees. In 1981, with interest edge technologies provide lenders and
rates as high at 22 per cent, the big financial institutions and real estate
crash hit. I lost a lot of money and had professionals the ability to make
to make a deal with my creditors in decisions more efficiently, with
Prince George that I would pay them increased accuracy and reduced risk.
back $1.8 million in 4 years. While most Automated Valuation
Because Prince George was Models use only multiple regression
experiencing such desperate or variations of regression to provide
conditions, I had to move to Vancouver market estimates, Landcor Data
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to be able to keep up my commitment Corporation’s analytical AVM tools
because of its larger market. Here my use both multiple regression and
RI certification saved me because for state-of-the-art algorithms to estimate
cash flow, I was now doing residential current market value.
appraisals again. I worked hard and Landcor’s AVM starts with hedonic
appraised a number of properties regression that takes a broad look at
throughout downtown Vancouver; comparability. It defines sales as being
that enabled me to pay my rent and similar and recent if they took place
Grand Trunk Bridge, Prince George
groceries and saved me from personal in a similar region, have sold recently,
bankruptcy. and are a similar property type.
In 1982 I was asked to appraise In the late ‘90s, my The formula then calculates statistical
260 properties, cruise and determine knowledge and skills weights and derives a market value
timber values, and determine and, most important, indexed against recent sales prices
subdivision potential. After the of similar properties. Considering
appraisal was complete and because my RI Designation, took market conditions and neighbourhood
I was a licensed REALTOR®, they me on a different path trends, Landcor’s Property Valuator™
asked me to find a buyer, which of appraising properties. tool provides property values that are
I did. That earned me the largest updated to the day you order a report.
commission I had ever made in the An independent review of our
real estate business. The appraisal and put a value on an entire town. AVM came back with a very favourable
took me 3 months to complete using I was given 60 days to appraise the response on its performance and
helicopters, float planes, and trucks. town and to sell it. Not only did I have that we are one of the best in North
to come up with a full appraisal, but America.
If it weren’t for my RI Designation,
a full marketing plan, too. After the
I can honestly say I would have Not only does Landcor provide
appraisal, I launched a marketing plan
declared bankruptcy. I couldn’t let current valuations, we offer our
across Canada, targeting the media
down the people from whom I had Historic Property ValuatorTM that
with newspaper ads, TV, and radio.
borrowed money or I owed money provides previous residential
The marketing plan found a buyer
to so my education is what gave me valuations, by month and year, going
and I teamed up with one of my
a way out. In fact, I was able to pay back as far as 2006.
REALTORS® at LandQuest and we
back my debts in 2 years instead
were successful at putting together Over the years, not only have
of my 4-year plan.
a successful sale. we built one of the best formulas for
In 1983 I started buying providing valuations, we have added all
In the late ‘90s, my knowledge
recreational properties myself and real estate documents, including title
and skills and, most important, my
within 10 years, I did 700 deals searches, tax certificates, documents,
RI Designation, took me on a different
and owned 450 properties. I did and plans, etc., to our online store
path of appraising properties.
that by using a system I developed so you don’t have to visit multiple
called F.R.E.D. (Finding Real Estate In 1998, I was approached by
websites to find what you need.
Deals) and created my cash flow BC Assessment and asked to develop
by selectively harvesting timber and an automated method to value and Today, with all my education,
developing waterfront subdivisions analyze properties, so I formed one experience, and determination,
of 5 to 10 acre lots. I also bought and of Canada’s top-tier online Automated I still have that passion and desire
subdivided four ghost towns and sold Valuation Model (AVM) for real estate to learn and be innovative and am
those lots. data analysis and valuation: Landcor still consulting on large projects. s
Data Corporation! Rudy Nielsen, RI, FRI, is President
One of my most difficult
appraisals that always stands out with Through licensing with and Founder of the NIHO Group
me is when I was asked to appraise BC Assessment, Landcor’s database of Companies.
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Cindy Nesselbeck, RI, Jason Grant, RI,
Land Consultant specializing in Land Transactions President & CEO, BC Assessment Authority
for Local Governments
From the very
I chose to pursue the beginning of
RI designation in 1990 my career,
after completing the Urban membership
Land Economics program with the REIBC
through UBC because the allowed me to
designation reflects my make critical
personal commitment business
to professionalism, integrity, connections
and knowledge in the pursuit and facilitated
of a rewarding career. valuable mentorships; it helped me
The real estate industry is comprised of many different effectively navigate a complex industry.
sectors . . . valuation, finance, trading, development,
Those connections and friendships endure
servicing, management, and so on. There are thousands
to this day, along with the credibility and
of people in British Columbia who are involved in that
opportunity the RI designation has always
marketplace. The RI designation assures clients and
provided.
associates of the highest standards of education and
experience. A regular attendee at RI-sponsored
The Real Estate Institute of BC is an advocate educational events, I was always able to
for education within the real estate industry and complement my on-the-job learning with
continuously presents information on issues affecting relevant and timely education opportunities.
its members. As a professional member of the REIBC, At those same events, connecting with
I stay informed and current on a wide range of real other real estate professionals to discuss
estate matters that affect my work. From webinars on common business issues proved invaluable.
timely topics to research papers that explore policies, Volunteering as a Chapter Director
the REIBC is a great resource to stay up-to-date on and eventually as a Governor with
matters affecting the industry. REIBC provided me a window into the
The REIBC also hosts many events throughout excellence in Board governance that has
the year that provide great opportunities to meet directly benefitted my career. The unique
and connect with other professionals who represent experience I gained while working in those
excellence and competency in their chosen field. volunteer positions and ultimately as
Whether I’m attending local events on Vancouver Island President of the REIBC prepared me for
or larger provincial events on the Mainland, it’s always career promotional opportunities.
a pleasure to join colleagues for interesting Those roles also allowed me to give
presentations and engaging conversations. back to an organization that has benefitted
Over the past 29 years, I have served on both me so much personally and permitted me
the Victoria and Nanaimo Chapters of the REIBC and to play a small part in important decisions
since 2017, I have been honoured to contribute to the that ensure the sustained relevance of the
organization by way of participating on the Board of REIBC going forward. Most important, it
Governors. The REIBC and the RI designation have gave me a much deeper understanding
both contributed to and supported my professional of the incredibly talented and diverse
development and personal growth. individuals that collectively make
membership with the REIBC so valuable.
The real estate industry is always changing but the
commitment to excellence and the significance of being I continue to hold my membership
educated, experienced, and connected is as important today because I truly believe the
today as it was 50 years ago. I am proud of my opportunities it provides are as valuable
RI designation and what it represents and I am excited and relevant as when I first entered the
about the future of our organization. s industry close to 30 years ago. s
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