The Second Brain & The Gut Feeling - Leslie Goertzen, LSCSW, LMAC
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The Second Brain & The Gut Feeling Leslie Goertzen, LSCSW, LMAC
Objectives
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Learn how the brain Learn how the Be able to identify Learn therapy skills
and digestive system parasympathetic and possible diagnoses that can be utilized to
impacts one another sympathetic nervous when the “second regulate ourselves.
and what this does to systems play a role in brain” is activated.
our everyday lives. this.
Brain and Digestive System
Link
https://youtu.be/VzPD009qTN4
Norepinephrine Epinephrine
• Found mainly in adrenal glands • Increased blood sugar levels
• Increased blood sugar levels • Increased heart rate
• Increased heart rate • Relaxation of lung muscles improving breathing
• Blood vessels become narrower • “Adrenaline rush”
• Increase blood pressure
Neurotransmitters
Dopamine Serotonin
• “feel good” • The “mood stabilizer” of the body
• Helps digestion • Reduces depression
• Heart and kidney function • Assists with relaxation
• Regulates moods and emotions • Helps to heal wounds
• Reward seeking behavior • Causes the feeling of nausea
• Assists with sleep • Mainly found in GI tract
The Grumpy Gut
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5772764/table/T1/?report=objectonly
The Gut
Feeling
•
•
What does it feel like?
What emotions?
• Intuition??
• Inner voice
• Sixth sense
• More than likely, it’s good to listen 
You didn’t know you were back in school!!
https://youtu.be/71pCilo8k4M
Autonomic Nervous System
Cortisol https://askthescientists.com/cortisol/
Autonomic Nervous System
The Polyvagal Theory Dr. Stephen Porges https://youtu.be/z41x1BaXMdE
What is
trauma???
Oxford
Dictionary
https://www.google.com/search?q=trauma&hl=en&sxsrf=ALeKk00Di3ZDHIU9gLBlUftfBnfP7eaQkg%3A161
7722189425&ei=TXtsYICzGZqxtQb9rIj4Aw&oq=trauma&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBwgAELEDEEMyBwgA
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ent=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjAjcjj9OnvAhWaWM0KHX0WAj8Q4dUDCA0&uact=5Factors contributing to intensity of trauma.
Person A Person B
• Previously • Previously
diagnosed with diagnosed with
MDD MDD
• Some financial • Some financial
stress stress
• Family history of • Family history of
depression and depression and
anxiety.
anxiety
• Little to no
support. • Has good, healthy
supports
• Been told they are
a “worry-wort” • More relaxed
• Previously in car • Never been in a
wreck 2 yrs ago car wreck• What would it look like 1 week • What would it look like 1 year
later?
later?
• 1 month later? • 5 years??
• 6 months later? • 10 years???Continued activation of stress/fear response…
On-going gut
problems can
Can’t trust the gut
lead to…
Diagnoses: Question *almost* everything-including self
• PTSD
Difficulty with trusting others
• Acute Stress Disorder
• Major Depression Disorder Impending doom frequently
• Anxiety: Panic Disorder, GAD, etc.
GI issues: nausea, diarrhea, constipation, IBS, etc.
• Eating Disorders
• Personality Disorders Difficulty concentrating
• Somatic Disorders
Startled easily
• Dissociative DisordersSomatic & Dissociative Disorders
https://step2.medbullets.com/psychiatry/120644/somatic-symptom-and-related-disorders
Let’s recap, so far…
Stress=trauma
Brain can interpret daily stress
as life threatening
This causes continued
fight/flight or freeze responses
Which could cause continued
GI problems and other issuesSKILLS!!! • I’m kidding…don’t do this, please.
Stre
ss
Preven Interven
tion tion
Self- Movem
ent/Bo
Care dy
Mindful Breath
ness Work
Cognitiv
e SkillsPrevention = Self-Care https://wordart.com/create 1. What you do. 2. What you NEED to do.
https://youtu.be/aNCB1MZDgQA
Mindful Practice:
• Mindfulness Skills
• What and How Skills
• Meditation
• Guided breathing, imagery, Open mind and
Focused Mind
• Contemplative Prayer
• Mindful Movement
• Yoga, tai chi, horseback riding, walking,
dancing, etc.
MindfulnessCognitive Skills Restructuring Reframing
InterventioN Movement / Body Breath Work • Stretching/Yoga—especially • 4-7-8 breathing sides • Box Breathing/4 square method • Running, jumping jacks, etc. • Belly breathing/blowing balloon • Cold Water • Humming-activates vagus nerve • Progressive Muscle Relaxation victory breath • Grounding: 5, 4, 3, 2, 1; bare https://youtu.be/6sEittuZ3GA feet on the floor/ground • Alternate Nostril Breathing • Rocking • Breath of Fire/Wim Hof method
TIPP
• Temperature
• Mammalian dive reflex:
https://youtu.be/00RKh6NRMqc
• Intense Exercise
• Min. 20 minutes
Skills • https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-
living/fitness/fitness-basics/target-heart-rates
Breakdown • Paced Breathing
• 4 seconds in
Point • Hold 2 seconds
• 6 seconds out
• Hold 2 seconds
• Paired Muscle Relaxation
• Similar to muscle relaxation
• Add breathing and saying “relax” while
releasing muscle groupsObjectives
Learn how the brain and digestive system impacts one
another and what this does to our everyday lives.
Learn how the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous
systems play a role in this.
Be able to identify possible diagnoses when the “second
brain” is activated.
Learn therapy skills that can be utilized to regulate ourselves.Questions, comments… Leslie A. Goertzen, LSCSW, LMAC Compass Behavioral Health, Dodge City lgoertzen@compassbh.org
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